boomer68
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Is there such a thing as a control load for the 270? I’m thinking a 130gr bullet over H4831? The question is, what bullet to start with. The BT is always a favourite in just about any cartridge.
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gerry
Ammo Smith
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I would say something like a 130 gr Ballistic Tip or one of the Sierra's with H 4831 sc would be about as close as you could come. Any gun that doesn't shoot those well probably has issues.
hunter24605
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Yep, I think you could fall off a stump with 130 BT and H 4831 and come up with a great load.
wvbuckbuster
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With the 130gr if H4831 doesn't group to your satisfaction try IMR 4831 53-56 grs has worked for me. Hunter and Stabal 6.5 good also. Dan.
Idaho53
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You are the right track for sure. H4831 with 56-58 grains behind a 130 grain bullet is what I load for all of my family. I prefer the H4831 due to its temperature stable characteristic. The AB or BT seated 10 to 20 off the lands has been 1/2 MOA load or better in all of the 270's we have. I have some fire brass I can send you, if you want it. Only pay for the shipping and its yours.
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H4831 is the classic powder for the 270 Win and a 130 gr bullet. It shouldn't take long to find an acceptable load.
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boomer68
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I have always gone with the BT and 58-59grs of H4831. It just seems to work. Tried and proven is the way to go 
Joec7651
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I prefer IMR, but either 4831 and a 130 grain bullet will get you a very accurate and speedy load that will work up to elk or moose depending on bullet flavor. 56 grains of Staball 6.5 gets between 3120-3130 fps in two different rifles shooting 3 different bullets. The 270 Winchester just does what it does, without any surprises. Work up on your loads of course, but 3000-3150 is doable safely with a 130 grain bullet and any 4350-4831 burn range powder. As long as the loader doesn’t try to turn it into a WSM or Weatherby there’s no worries.
For sure. H4831 or RL22 have been go to's for the 270 Win. If one didn't shoot great the other did. Another good friend swears by IMR4831. I use RL26 with the 130's for 3150 from my Featherweight with the 130 Trophy Bonded Tipped.
Working on my BIL's 270 P64 Featherweight right now with 130 Accubonds and H4831SC. One thing to note I have noticed over the years is soft loads of H4831 or 22 never looked like much till you pushed them up to the 2900+ area and usually they really came alive around 3000-3050 marks. I wouldn't be completely surprised to see you have to push a few grains over Nosler's max, but still under Hodgdons, Hornadys, or Sierra's data for a 130. For some reason Nosler must've gotten a dynamite barrel of H4831 for their testing, cause it was dirt slow in a few of my rifles till I was in the 58-60 grain range.
I struggled with the 4831s in my daughter’s 270 with 130 and 140 grain ABs then tried 7828 without any luck either. I was really scratching my head, as these had always delivered the goods in our other 270 rifles. Someone mentioned trying RL22 so I gave it a try and it shot lights out!
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flyingagg
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I have heard from three others having success with RL22 and 130 AB/PT, just under the Nosler Data max
TackDriver284
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H4831 has worked for a ton of calibers, its known to be one of the best powders. H4831 SC is the bees knees for my 6.5 x 284. Was using the 147 ELDM and 49 grains pushed that bullet so slow, 2600 + fps and 49 grains was Nosler max with the 140-142 pills. I kept adding .3 increments until it got to pressure at 2900 fps, backed off to 2825 fps at 52 plus grains of H4831SC. I swapped to hunting bullets a couple weeks back since I plan to use it for a hunting rifle due to short barrel life. I swapped to 143 ELDX and tested over a chrono, its 52.7 grains at 2890 fps. Tweaked up a few tenths of a grain to get the sweet spot. 2900 fps seems to work just fine, H4831SC / H4831 is a slow powder, but the thing I like about it is temp stability and works well with heavy bullets. I would like to test RL-26 in the 6.5 x 284 one day. Still have a pound and a half, but keeping it for the 300 Win Mag.
I would not hesitate to try the 156 grain Berger EOL with RL-26 in the 6.5 x 284, seeing reports of it shooting at the 2980 -3000 fps mark.
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The first powder I recommend for the 270 and 130s is RL22. Most seem to steer towards H4831, but RL22 has given me better velocity and accuracy in several M700s. Ramshot Hunter has also been very good.
Bruce Mc
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I've had four different 270 wins over the years and not a single one shared a common 130 gr load with one of the others. All four were very finicky with 130s. COAL was the key. Neither 4831s were ever the best powder for accuracy, or even close. I could never get enough 4831 into the case to get over 3100 fps ta boot. I've found good loads with H-4350, IMR-4350, IMR-4451, IMR-7828, Norma MRP, and most recently Reloder 16. The only common denominator on all four rifles was a 150 gr bullet, didn't seem to matter which one, and IMR-7828. I'm trying some 130 AccuBond loads with StaBall 6.5 right now. We'll see if the first go round breaks the mold.
I gave up on 130 gr. bullets back around 1974. I got my first rifle in .270 in 1973 and hunted with one of the 130 gr. bullets. I don't recall which one but an educated guess would say Sierra Pro-Hunter. I didn't like the amount of meat damage and when discussing guns and such stuff with one of my hunting partners and his dad, his dad said he had the same problem with 130 gr. bullets and switched to the 150 gr. and never looked back. I've done the same. I run a load with the now long gone Winchester WMR powder, all Winchester components, (brass and standard primers) and either the 150 gr. Sierra game King or 150 gr. Nosler Partition. Either one will give .75" groups in a Winchester XTR I picked up at a gun show. If I mix and match the six shot group will be at or very close to 1.5" and usually slightly less. I can switch those loads during a hunt and not have to sight the rifle in again.
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Lazy Bushman
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I typically load at the top of the weight spectrum for all my rifles and the 270win is no exception. I use 150gn soft points (Sierra GameKing's) over 52.5gns of AR2209. I think Hodgson rename that powder to H4350...why they need to rename it and other ADI powders I have no idea. The same load works really well for Hornady 150gn SST's as well. Both loads group well and despite the SST's striking a little higher, the average of the two are still within a minute of deer and the cross hairs on the top of a pig's out to 300m will get the job done.....though I typically don't shoot that far as my eyes are lucky to pickup game at that distance
Aussie Wanderer
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My sons 270 will shoot just about any bullet and powder combination well, it is really nice to work with. For 130’s we have settled on H4350 simply because it works and is easily found. Very accurate and speed is fine.
