30-06 Load data needed
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joelkdouglas
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DON,
I use 59.0 grains of IMR4350 with 155 Custom Competitions, and I can normally put 5 shots in an inch.
I have some Ramshot Big Game on order, but I haven't done any tests yet with it.
Let me know what works for you--I would be interested in your gained insight.
v/r
Joel
I use 59.0 grains of IMR4350 with 155 Custom Competitions, and I can normally put 5 shots in an inch.
I have some Ramshot Big Game on order, but I haven't done any tests yet with it.
Let me know what works for you--I would be interested in your gained insight.
v/r
Joel
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DrMike
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Interestingly enough, I've not worked with the 150 grain Partition. I have worked extensively with the 150 grain E-Tip, however. I'm focused on it for this coming year. I'm getting quite good accuracy and good velocities, which soothes any concerns I may have harbored about this particular bullet.
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I have a bunch of data with quite a number of powders but it is from a 20" ruger Ultra-Lite rifle and an 18" rem pump.
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I have an excellent load currently using 165 Ballistic Tips that is a proven killer and keeper.
I wanted to mess a little with the 150 Partitions as I have some on hand. Previously I shot 150 Ballistic Tips using W-748 and was getting 3000 fps with no pressure. The 150 Partition would hold up better at 2900 to 3000 fps due to how it's structured at least for Whitetail Deer hunting where my shots are within 100 or closer.
Powders on hand are: W-748, H-4350, Ramshot Hunter & RL-15
Don
I wanted to mess a little with the 150 Partitions as I have some on hand. Previously I shot 150 Ballistic Tips using W-748 and was getting 3000 fps with no pressure. The 150 Partition would hold up better at 2900 to 3000 fps due to how it's structured at least for Whitetail Deer hunting where my shots are within 100 or closer.
Powders on hand are: W-748, H-4350, Ramshot Hunter & RL-15
Don
DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 86 49.44 2358 1852 29503 8313 84.7 1.385
-18.0 88 50.68 2421 1951 31568 8615 86.3 1.348
-16.0 90 51.91 2484 2054 33783 8910 87.8 1.312
-14.0 93 53.15 2547 2161 36163 9198 89.2 1.278
-12.0 95 54.38 2611 2271 38723 9477 90.5 1.237
-10.0 97 55.62 2675 2384 41480 9745 91.8 1.198
-08.0 99 56.86 2740 2500 44451 10001 93.0 1.160
-06.0 101 58.09 2804 2620 47657 10245 94.1 1.124
-04.0 103 59.33 2869 2742 51120 10473 95.2 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 105 60.56 2935 2868 54868 10686 96.1 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 61.80 3000 2997 58928 10882 97.0 1.021 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 110 63.04 3065 3129 63331 11059 97.7 0.989 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 112 64.27 3131 3264 68119 11215 98.4 0.957 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 114 65.51 3196 3402 73330 11352 98.9 0.928 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 116 66.74 3261 3543 79028 11465 99.3 0.898 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 118 67.98 3327 3686 85256 11555 99.7 0.870 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 61.80 3159 3323 71691 10797 99.9 0.942 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 61.80 2791 2594 47764 10359 89.5 1.122
Code:
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
2 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-17 102.8 60.0 3.89 3055 99.8 59000 11003 1.011 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 102.8 60.0 3.89 3055 99.8 59000 11003 1.011 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 110.0 60.9 3.94 3022 100.0 57654 10534 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 104.2 61.7 4.00 3002 97.0 59000 10902 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 107.6 61.8 4.01 3001 97.0 59000 10884 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 107.3 59.0 3.83 2996 98.5 59000 10640 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 107.3 59.1 3.83 2996 98.5 59000 10636 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 106.8 59.4 3.85 2995 98.6 59000 10658 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 101.7 59.8 3.88 2995 96.1 59000 10836 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 101.7 59.8 3.88 2995 96.1 59000 10836 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 104.1 59.2 3.83 2993 98.4 59000 10740 1.031 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 96.4 53.7 3.48 2971 99.4 59000 10255 1.035 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 59.2 3.84 2962 99.6 58561 9930 1.025 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 97.7 54.4 3.52 2959 99.4 59000 10129 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 97.2 54.1 3.50 2958 99.1 59000 10175 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 97.2 54.1 3.50 2958 99.1 59000 10175 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 97.2 54.1 3.50 2958 99.1 59000 10175 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 92.0 55.8 3.62 2958 99.9 59000 10025 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 99.4 55.9 3.62 2956 99.8 59000 10034 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 99.4 55.9 3.62 2956 99.8 59000 10034 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 106.0 60.9 3.95 2953 93.5 59000 10536 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 109.5 60.9 3.95 2953 93.5 59000 10536 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 109.5 60.9 3.95 2953 93.5 59000 10536 1.020 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 101.6 55.9 3.62 2949 99.7 59000 9947 1.046 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 107.1 60.5 3.92 2944 95.6 59000 10361 1.030 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 98.5 56.0 3.63 2942 98.1 59000 10181 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 110.0 60.9 3.94 2940 93.0 57355 10635 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 101.4 55.2 3.58 2940 99.6 59000 9915 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 99.3 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9438 1.067 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 94.2 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9439 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 92.1 54.0 3.50 2932 100.0 59000 9439 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 106.2 58.4 3.79 2932 96.2 59000 10251 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 98.0 56.3 3.65 2926 98.2 59000 9919 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 106.8 59.1 3.83 2923 95.3 59000 10088 1.027 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 108.8 59.2 3.84 2923 95.1 59000 10095 1.028 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 110.0 63.9 4.14 2920 93.4 51012 11391 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 109.8 64.4 4.17 2920 93.3 59000 10207 1.022 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 110.0 61.2 3.97 2919 92.9 55323 10657 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 93.5 50.9 3.30 2914 100.0 59000 9076 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 104.7 57.0 3.69 2914 97.4 59000 9966 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 110.0 60.3 3.91 2914 92.1 58934 10146 1.026 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7 92.9 55.4 3.59 2913 98.0 59000 9816 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 91.1 51.8 3.35 2908 99.9 59000 9494 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 110.0 58.6 3.80 2904 97.9 54178 10257 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 103.2 56.3 3.65 2901 95.2 59000 9951 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 103.2 56.3 3.65 2901 95.2 59000 9951 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 99.9 56.4 3.65 2900 95.2 59000 9943 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 96.9 52.0 3.37 2899 99.9 59000 9379 1.050 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 110.0 61.2 3.97 2889 92.4 54039 10489 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 93.1 49.2 3.19 2886 100.0 59000 9032 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 62.9 4.07 2879 89.1 52736 10785 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 110.0 61.9 4.01 2876 94.0 54014 10292 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 108.6 64.3 4.17 2872 90.9 59000 9830 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 99.7 57.9 3.75 2846 94.9 59000 9336 1.045 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 110.0 61.9 4.01 2846 89.1 54144 10101 1.061 ! Near Maximum !joelkdouglas
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Don,
I have worked with 150 ABs and H4350, but I couldn't find a consistent load. I worked up to 59.6 gr H4350 without pressure, but one day it would shoot very well, one day it wouldn't. I desired more consistency.
I think the optimum powders for 150/155s are H4895, IMR4064, and Ramshot Big Game. If I were going to shoot 150s I would think H4895 would be the ticket--proven on many a battlefield, and in many a 30-06.
v/r
Joel
I have worked with 150 ABs and H4350, but I couldn't find a consistent load. I worked up to 59.6 gr H4350 without pressure, but one day it would shoot very well, one day it wouldn't. I desired more consistency.
I think the optimum powders for 150/155s are H4895, IMR4064, and Ramshot Big Game. If I were going to shoot 150s I would think H4895 would be the ticket--proven on many a battlefield, and in many a 30-06.
v/r
Joel
joelkdouglas
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Don,
Here's a link to when I was asking the same question last year, about 150s. I killed both of my deer this year in Kansas with 180 PTs because I couldn't find a 150 load to my liking.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19169&view=previous
v/r
Joel
Here's a link to when I was asking the same question last year, about 150s. I killed both of my deer this year in Kansas with 180 PTs because I couldn't find a 150 load to my liking.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19169&view=previous
v/r
Joel
In the 30-06 it is really hard to beat 51.2 grs IMR 4064 with most any cup and core 150 gr bullet for accuracy and will average 2900 to 3000 fps. The partitions are not the most accurate bullets as far as group shooting is concerned in general. They do kill really well and as long as accuracy is minute of deer shoulder out to as far as you ever plan on taking a shot then you are good to go. This load with a 150 ballistic tip or Sierra SP is dead nuts accurate and it is a deer killer.
Spot on.DrMike":2w9ssu6j said:
Groups were just over an inch, about 1 1/8", but the classic two-in-one-out. I'm confident seating depth tweaks will bring the outlier into center. The speed predicted above is exactly what I averaged in July. Shooting the same load in the winter showed a drop of less than 1%, right at 2900. These were measured out of a Model 70 Featherweight, but I've had similar results out of a Remington 700 ADL. Both with 22" barrels.
Given this, I'm somewhat moving towards the 165 AB at 2,860. Haven't run the numbers but I suspect the longer, slicker AB will likely make up downrange the very slight difference in velocity it gives up at the muzzle.
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DrMike
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Code:
Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 60.345 grain H2O = 3.918 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 82 48.00 2412 1938 29750 8827 90.5 1.371
-18.0 84 49.20 2476 2042 31816 9125 92.0 1.335
-16.0 86 50.40 2541 2150 34034 9409 93.3 1.299
-14.0 88 51.60 2605 2260 36414 9679 94.6 1.265
-12.0 90 52.80 2670 2374 38972 9931 95.7 1.224
-10.0 93 54.00 2734 2490 41723 10165 96.7 1.185
-08.0 95 55.20 2799 2610 44685 10379 97.6 1.148
-06.0 97 56.40 2864 2732 47877 10571 98.4 1.112
-04.0 99 57.60 2928 2856 51319 10741 99.0 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 101 58.80 2992 2982 55037 10885 99.4 1.043 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 103 60.00 3056 3111 59060 11004 99.8 1.010 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 105 61.20 3119 3241 63419 11097 100.0 0.979 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 107 62.40 3182 3373 68148 11162 100.0 0.948 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 109 63.60 3245 3507 73288 11214 100.0 0.919 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 111 64.80 3307 3642 78888 11261 100.0 0.891 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 113 66.00 3368 3779 84974 11304 100.0 0.863 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 103 60.00 3197 3404 72046 10527 100.0 0.932 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 103 60.00 2850 2705 47838 10900 94.8 1.112Here is a projection for RL17 at pressure.
salmonchaser
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I run 52.5 grains IMR 4064 with 150 partitions. 2900 fps,. I've gotten .5 moa on occasion, but more often closer to an inch. I developed the load in 1981 when I drew a once in a lifetime Oregon big horn tag. The load has accounted for a bighorn, a couple of antelope and an awful lot of deer. Never saw a reason to use any thing else for deer size critters.
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DrMike
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You are surely welcome, Don.
truck driver
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I always shied away from 150gr in the 30-06 due to excessive meat damage when I first started hunting my dad always said that a 150gr was too light but the 180s were just right. After I started reloading I tried 150s and found him to be right but settled on 165gr partions and Hornaday interlocks. Less meat damage and I only had to track one because of a bullet that was deflected by a small branch that missed most of the vitals when it bounced around in side off the ribs.
salmonchaser
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Just another note on the 30_06 and 150 grain bullets. My dad used nothing but 150 grain when we lived in the Fairbanks area. The exception being 220 grain bullets for backing up the 150 on moose and grizzly. He was a very patient hunter and picked his shots. I was young then and never witnessed any of the half dozen grizzly he killed, but only one needed to be hit with a 220. I asked him about this a few years ago and he said the 150 grain turned a grizzlys insides to jelly, he added that he never shot at a bear that was closer than about 100 yards. According to him moose were way easier to kill than elk and the 150 worked fine.
I never agreed with everything the old man taught and while more grizzly and moose have probably been killed with an 06 shooting whatever was available, I would be use more gun, certainly 180 grain bullets. In any event the old 06 shooting 150 grain bullets is pretty hard to beat, and I would bet no other cartridge can come close to equalling the resume.
Me, my limit is deer with 150 grain bullets, I'll use my 338 on elk and moose, and either the 338 or 375 on grizzly.
Good luck with your load work up, it will do what you need it to do.
I never agreed with everything the old man taught and while more grizzly and moose have probably been killed with an 06 shooting whatever was available, I would be use more gun, certainly 180 grain bullets. In any event the old 06 shooting 150 grain bullets is pretty hard to beat, and I would bet no other cartridge can come close to equalling the resume.
Me, my limit is deer with 150 grain bullets, I'll use my 338 on elk and moose, and either the 338 or 375 on grizzly.
Good luck with your load work up, it will do what you need it to do.
DrMike
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Interesting comments by your day. I will say that I whole-heartedly agree that moose are easier to kill than elk. 'Course, moose to stagger about looking for an inhospitable marsh or beaver pond just to ensure that the individual foolish enough to have shot him has to work like a slave to enjoy the meat.
