.30-06 load using 150gr Accubond and H4350 powder

[trsmith18]

I am looking for a safe powder charge (min/max) to make loads using H4350 powder, a 150gr AccuBond bullet, in a 30-06 cartridge. If anyone has a nosler load manual or other with this combination would be appreciated

 

[30-338]

Welcome,

Hodgdon shows 56 to 62gr/H-4350 with 150gr Nolser BT. I'm loading
60gr/H-4350 with 150gr E-Tp in the 30-06 and Nolser doesn't list H-4350 with 150gr bullets.

 

[trsmith18]

are those ranges out of the most recent hodgdon manual

 

[spires5d]

My Hodgdon manual shows 62.0C grainsat 3068 FPS. I've loaded 60 grains of H4350 and 150 grain Hornady BTSP for my son's 30-06 and that gave me about 2992 FPS. He liked how they shot. With using 60 grains of H4350 and 150gr. AccuBond, you should be ok.






A 50BMG MIGHT KICKEM IN THE BUT, A30Cal. will Slam Dunk Em!

 

[30-338]

are those ranges out of the most recent hodgdon manual

Yes you can also get the data from here
http://www.hodgdon.com/

 

[Guy Miner]

H4350 has always worked well from my .30-06, but I don't recall ever loading 150's from it. Generally stick with 165's. Sometimes I jump up to 180, 200 or even 220 grain bullets.

 

[trsmith18]

i am trying to work up a 150 gr load for hunting this year. I have always used 165gr remington core-lok, but want something with less kick and will be using the AccuBond which is a better bullet

 

[JD338]

trsmith18

Welcome to the forum.

IMR 4350 was always my go to powder in 30-06. A MAX load of 59.0 grs shot very well for me and accounted for several WT deer, Antelope and a Black Bear with the 150 gr PT.

JD338

 

[ElkHunter]

I have alwasy used 58g imr4350 with 150g Gamekings to produce nice little groups and dead deer.

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch or 84.84 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch or 558.8 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.754% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-17.5 85 47.01 2338 1821 28962 8143 84.7 1.389
-15.8 87 48.01 2391 1904 30653 8398 86.0 1.358
-14.0 89 49.01 2444 1989 32439 8648 87.3 1.327
-12.3 90 50.01 2497 2076 34355 8893 88.6 1.297
-10.5 92 51.01 2550 2166 36378 9132 89.8 1.268
-08.8 94 52.01 2604 2259 38534 9364 90.9 1.235
-07.0 96 53.01 2658 2354 40826 9588 92.0 1.201
-05.3 98 54.01 2713 2451 43267 9804 93.0 1.169
-03.5 99 55.01 2767 2551 45869 10011 94.0 1.137
-01.8 101 56.01 2822 2652 48643 10207 94.9 1.107
+00.0 103 57.01 2877 2757 51606 10392 95.7 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
+01.8 105 58.01 2932 2863 54773 10566 96.5 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
+03.5 107 59.01 2987 2972 58161 10727 97.2 1.021 ! Near Maximum !
+05.3 108 60.01 3042 3082 61792 10874 97.8 0.993 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+07.0 110 61.01 3097 3195 65687 11007 98.3 0.967 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.8 112 62.01 3153 3310 69869 11124 98.8 0.941 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 103 57.01 3039 3076 62228 10449 99.6 0.994 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 103 57.01 2669 2372 42247 9756 87.4 1.183

 

[trsmith18]

thanks for the information...to what do you account the differences in acceptable ranges of powder charge. The hodgdon site states 56-62C for acceptable ranges but your data show maximum/dangerous charge levels much lower. Please explain.

 

[Guest]

The difference is several things. Different testing setup and methodology, different bullet shape & bearing surface, different lot of powder, and different components (brand & lot of brass and/or primers) all play a part. If you're shooting a Hornady bullet, use Hornady data. If you're shooting a Nosler bullet, use Nosler data. Once you become more accustomed to how your rifle behaves, and learn a bit about handloading over the years, you'll be better able to discern what charge weights are appropriate for your selection of components.

 

[FOTIS]

Every load posted anywhere is only a reference and not written in stone.

Rifle barrels, pressure guns vs sporter guns, twist rate, barrel length powder lot #, type of primer and lot # , the way the barrel "accepts" the bullet and a myriad of other variables can play a role.
This is the most difficult thing to understand and accept amongst handloaders.

It is NOT an exact science.

For example: Different loading pressures, read on............

The aforementioned data I supplied, from quickload is using the SAAMI 60K PSI assigned to the 30-06.
Why is the 270 win or 308 win rated at 65K?
Are rem 700's (for example) slated to be reamed in 30-06's made less strong than the ones to be made in 270 win or 308?
Are 30-06 brass made less stronger than 270, 308 or 300 win? No way.
So you will see '06 loads out there that are at the 65K max.......

 

[trsmith18]

thanks for the info as all was. I gues i am just unsure what everyone feels may be the safe ranges to begin load development to avoid any accidents.

 

[trsmith18]

any idea what you guys feel given the "average" information, what would be a safe start/max load

 

[hubcap]

Just an idea. Why not start at 57.5 grains of h4350. Nosler custom ammo is loaded to 57.5 for the 165 grain bullet using H4350. For the lighter 150 this should work for a starter load. :idea: :idea: :idea:

 

[trsmith18]

my plan of attack is... I've loaded up several rounds. i started at 56.3 grains and moved up 0.3 grains each round to a maximum of 61 and change (can remember and too lazy to look right now) i will continue to monitor for high pressure signs on my way.

Any other recommendations for load development you have found useful?

I am heading to WI to test some stuff out and be back at a range for a while after that so i want to get it right

 

[bullet]

exactly what the book says is a starting load. Look at the Hogdon powder data online and use their starting load and work up.

 

[trsmith18]

thats exactly what my plan is. What got me concern is the work up "load data" POP posted that has me concerned about the upper limits. No biggie thanks again for everyone expertise

 

[bullet]

Since you are new at this as you work up do not go above the max load listed by Hogdon. You will learn somethings in time but for now keep it safe and you will enjoy your reloading and shooting which will pay off in the field.