30 calibre 180 Ballistic Tip

[Aussie Wanderer]

Just wondering how tough this bullet is. Is it okay at 300wm velocities?

 

[SJB358]

Just wondering how tough this bullet is. Is it okay at 300wm velocities?

I’d not hesitate a second myself.

 

[JD338]

It's a very robust bullet. Several years ago, Nosler thickened up the jacket of the BT starting with the 308 180 gr and up. The only exception is the 308 220 BT which was designed for the 300 Blackout.
My wife shoots the 180 BT at 3100 fps from her 30 Nosler with great success.

JD338

 

[badaxeriverman]

Shot a few nice bucks with them out of 300 RUM at almost point blank range running under deer my tree stand. They all exited and dropped in the spot. My buddy shot a treed black bear around 00’ with the sane set up. Dropped that bear out of the tree. Hit the ground and needless to say it didn’t go anywhere. I’ve never seen more blood come out of a bear like a horror show…it was projectile shooting out of its neck. The bullet exited once again he decided to shoot it one more time since it was trying to get up. I’m sure with a well placed heart and lung shot. It would’ve hit the ground and never moved. I’ve shot a few deer with the 180’s loaded in my 30-06. They hit the ground like a freight train smacked them. The solid copper base imo has enough weight to push them through the other side. The only weight ballistic tip that I caught a separated jacket on was using my 300 RUM and a 125 grain ballistic tip at 4,000 fps. It was on a pronghorn 200 yards away. Blew a hole through it the size of a coffee can. Shot one later in the day with the same set up that was almost 1000 yards and it just pulled a bullet size hole in and out. Broadside right behind the front shoulders. Hit the heart along the area and it ran 40 yards in a circle and tipped over dead. I’ve learned that as long as you use heavy for caliber ballistic tips on Whitetail it seems to hold up really good no matter how fast you push them.

 

[Aussie Wanderer]

Thanks Gents, great info right there. I was not aware the bullet had been redesigned to withstand greater speed. It is probably the most accurate bullet I have tried in my 300wm and I have tried a lot. Interestingly H4350 seems to be what really makes it shine.

 

[SJB358]

I always thought H4350 wasn’t really great till I saw how well it worked in my old buddies 300 Win with 180’s. He has multiple examples of amazing accuracy using H4350. Then when my brother had his 1-8 300 Win built and it was tested with H4350 and 200 ABs the first 10 shots from the new barrel were under about 3/4” at 2975. Needless to say I try H4350 now in the medium 300’s like the H&H, WSM and Win Mag. A few times I haven’t needed to go any further.

 

[TackDriver284]

I would not hesitate to use 180 Ballistic Tips on most North American game. It's a great bullet and very exceptionally accurate out of my 300 Win Mag.

 

[badaxeriverman]

Thanks Gents, great info right there. I was not aware the bullet had been redesigned to withstand greater speed.

I forgot they redesigned it myself. I saw some boxes a few months ago and didn’t realize they had a generation ballistic tip because I almost traded for some until I realized they were a different construction and not as stout. I probably have three or four boxes of the old style screw partitions that are full in 6 mm and I also have a box of the old Zippedoes.

I was looking for a nice clean picture of the old versus the new jackets and this is about all I could find

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[Guy Miner]

I always thought H4350 wasn’t really great till I saw how well it worked in my old buddies 300 Win with 180’s. He has multiple examples of amazing accuracy using H4350. Then when my brother had his 1-8 300 Win built and it was tested with H4350 and 200 ABs the first 10 shots from the new barrel were under about 3/4” at 2975. Needless to say I try H4350 now in the medium 300’s like the H&H, WSM and Win Mag. A few times I haven’t needed to go any further.

Hey! Stay away from "my" H4350.... It's hard enough to come by.

Re the 180 Ballistic Tip, I provided 300 Win Mag ammo for a buddy to take to Africa, 180 Partitions and 180 Ballistic Tips. He and his PH were both very impressed with the quick kills from the 180 BT, and he ended up choosing it over the Partition for most of his hunting there.

Guy

 

[badaxeriverman]

Yep, I wouldn’t be afraid to use it on bigger game even though I haven’t. People always say to stay away from it from it on ELK and Moose. I can think of a lot better options like a scirocco, Partition, or a core loct I wouldn’t feel handicap or under gun or nervous about using a ballistic tip at all and heavy for caliber on either one of them. Guesses they would go down WAY quicker. To me, it’s like using a more stout quick energy dumping varmint type bullet on big game with a solid copper base that keeps enough weight retention to drive deep. Like I said, I’ve never seen one caught inside an animal using the 180 grain version in a 300 RUzm, but I’m sure it’s been done. They DO make a big mess I found inside the animal when I field dress it but I’ll take the trade off for dropping animals in their tracks versus other harder, less expanding, projectiles that done dump enough energy and leave them with enough life left to run onto my neighbors properties who I don’t allow me to recover them. It’s a great projectile for a quick recovery and drop in their track’s performance imo.

 

[badaxeriverman]

I’ve never shot them on Elk or moose and I would assume that’s where a premium bullet would do better with a less than perfect shot or at an extreme angle. I just never shoot deer unless they’re broadside or quartering away from me. I’ve gotten some pretty extreme angles and always an exit even with my 300 RUM which you think it would separate the jacket on. It does it doesn’t stay inside any of my animals that’s for sure. I said above the only one that I had a separation on was 125 grain ballistic tip pushed at 4000 ft./s at about 200 yards on a pronghorn. Expected no less of an outcome. The core still exited and just left the jacket. The animal hit the ground like a freight train hit it and never moved. I get a kick out of how people say. It was a failure because the core separated from the jacket….lol. If the animal drops in its tracks dead, it does better than 99.9% of the other bullets out there on the planet.

I just watched some goofy outdoor life writer post a video shooting a moose…THREE TIMES… with a 22 mm GT and claims it’s an ethical round for a moose and big game. Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. I bet if he shot that moose behind the front shoulder with 180 grain nozzles ballistic tip like he did with the three shots from his 22. It would’ve hit the ground at the first shot…or stumbled and fell over with the first shot vs standing there for a half a minute after getting shot three times while it was basically waiting to die.

 

[trapper10]

Just wondering how tough this bullet is. Is it okay at 300wm velocities?

Its devastating on deer at 3,000+

 

[TXbaldhunter]

I shot a big red stag with the 180gr Ballistic Tip out of my 300 Win Mag,mv 3130fps,125yds.Bullet hit the onside shoulder, traveled through the scapula,lungs and exited right behind the offside shoulder and dropped him right there.To be honest with you,they are a tough bullet,they perform about the same as the 180gr AccuBond.They have the same copper jacket as the AccuBond,the only difference is the bonding.I'd bet the new non-plastic tipped solid base will perform equal or better in retained weight than the AccuBond.It too, appears to be made with the same jacket less the more rapid expanding plastic tip.Bond that bullet and it will probably rival the Partition and a better B.C. too.

 

[JD338]

You are spot on. I had this very conversation with Nosler.

JD338