.300 Remington Ultra Mag

[redrider03]

I was wondering if anybody has a basic Remington 700 SPS in a .300 RUM. I was wondering how they shoot. I was wondering how hard a 7 1/4 pound .300 UM would be on the shoulder. Seems like a pretty good deal. They arn't too expensive like around $500 and the weight being nice to handle hiking through the mountains. Let me know what you think.

 

[FOTIS]

The weight is good, the action is good, the cartridge is great, the barrel (accuracy)...... is hit or miss.

 

[JD338]

I haven't found a M700 that didn't shoot MOA or less with the right loads.
Recoil is a somewhat personal as everybody has their own tolerance. With a good recoil pad, the 300 RUM recoil is very manageable from the bench. In the field, you won't even notice it. :wink:

JD338

 

[Woodycreek]

One of my two 300 RUMs is the SPS and the other is the Sendero. The Sendero is my go to rifle but i like the SPS. The SPS comes with the Sims recoil pad so the recoil not that bad. Shot Nosler Custom loaded 200 gr. Accubonds and my starter load (180 gr SST with 86 grains of IMR 7828) for the Sendero. Both shot great though the SPS. The Rem 700 SPS in any cal. would be a great deal for $500.

 

[Guy Miner]

It's one heck of a cartridge - more cartridge than I wanted in the light 700 CDL I got a great deal on. Loaded for it and shot it for a year, then it passed on to other eager hands... Accurate. Powerful.

I'm using a .300 WSM now, and am happier. The RUM though - with a muzzle brake or just a heavier rifle - is one heck of a piece of gear. I was amazed to see an honest 3200 fps with 200 grain Nosler Partitions... :shock:

Regards, Guy

 

[roysclockgun]

Realizing that this report is only anecdotal evidence, here goes: It has got to be five or more years ago, that I bought a new Browning Stainless Stalker in 300RUM. I liked everything about the rifle, save for the part where I tried to get maximum MV, in order to achieve a flatter trajectory. As soon as I loaded the 180gr bullets to higher velocity than I could get with my old 30-06, the accuracy went south. I tried many different bullets, propellants, cases and primers, with the same results. I had just over 1000 rounds through the rifle, when I realized that by time I found the right load, the bore would be wearing out! A number of other 300RUM shooters told me that the cartridge is really finicky about what components are used and therefore the 300RUM is not for everyone. I agreed with that, and sent the rifle down the road. I would not buy another rifle chambered for 300RUM.
For the gain that I got, over the 30-06, the stretch was not worth the effort and amount of powder burned.
Steven

 

[bullet]

The 300Rum what a hoot if you get the load right. So overbore that it suffers from diminishing returns and you will have to nail the load. I like the 30-06 Ackley Improved, 300 H&H, 300WSM and 300 Weatherby mag much better. I really think the 30-378 and 300Rum are the extremes of 300 magnums and come with extreme problems at times. That said, I have a friend who loves his and gets great velocities and accuracy but he put in some work to get it.

 

[Big Squeeze]

I was wondering if anybody has a basic Remington 700 SPS in a .300 RUM. I was wondering how they shoot. I was wondering how hard a 7 1/4 pound .300 UM would be on the shoulder. Seems like a pretty good deal. They arn't too expensive like around $500 and the weight being nice to handle hiking through the mountains. Let me know what you think.

..........................Here is a simple solution to solve excessive recoil while shooting at the bench assuming that the factory pad is not enough....... Rather than have a muzzle brake which means increased noise and flash, simply use a slip on Limbsaver recoil pad............My 300 WSM compact weighs just under 7.5 lbs. and it does have some pretty good recoil. I slip the Limbsaver over the factory pad and it becomes more of a pussycat by reducing the felt recoil about 50%. Same holds true with my .375 Ruger................As the `ol saying goes; when you increase something (velocity) over here, there are other compromises or sacrifices to be made over there. Like the 30-378, the 300 RUM is an extreme 300 magnum. It costs more to reload, can be more finicky and it can have reduced barrel life..........Rather than look at a 300 RUM, a better balance with far less compromising would be the the 300 Win. Mag. or even in a lighter rifle, the 300 WSM...........Even though the 300 RUM is better ballistically, when you run the downrange ballistic #`s and compare the differences in velocities, trajectories, energy needed on animals and so on, realistically, there is nothing that the 300 RUM can do that the 300 WSM or the 300 Win. Mag. cannot do!!............Using a 200 gr. Nosler A/B, my 300 WSM has 1956 ft. lbs., nearly a ton of downrange energy remaining @ 500 yards; enough for any bull elk or bull moose should I ever choose to take a 500 yard shot!...........Lots of velocity is OK, but it does come with an additional price or compromises in recoil, reloading costs, barrel life and in some cases, sacrifices in accuracy!..............If I`m not mistaken, doesn`t the SPS come in the 300 Win? and 300 WSM? I`ll have to check the Remy website..............

 

[Big Squeeze]

YEP!..................The Remy SPS is available in both the 300 WSM and the 300 Win. Mag.

 

[jtoews80]

Here Here, the 300 win is a fine cartidge, and yes it can do anything that the 300 RUM can do for about half the price of brass or lower end ammo.
And without the heavy recoil.

That having been said I still enjoy the small pleasures of BIG 300's not including a black shoulder. I've got a 30-378 wby w/accubrake. It's very accurate, very little recoil. Actually, my wife is 5'4", 125lbs and has no complaints about recoil with 200 grn bullets. IT has termendous range/accuracy potential and will hit at almost any range you want to practice at. It also has HUGE energy potential so being adaquate for all NA game except the great bears (due to lack of properly constructed bullets) at ranges out to 800m with a skilled shooter(not me).


That is the sales pitch, now the not so hot part. The brake that makes recoil so gentle makes this gun very loud, which is handleable at the range, but a serious downfall while hunting as you want to be able to hear your game and still be able to hear after the shot. Or shoot it without and suffer a black shoulder. The incredible velocity of both the 30-378wby and 300 RUM is a beautiful thing on a ballistic chart, but will cause an equally incredible amount of damage to a game animal shot at conventional ranges like 60-150 yds. This also makes bullet/load selection very tricky because the wrond bullet will simply explode in the first 2.5 or 3 inchs of tissue and leave either an almost ruined carcass on WT or could leave you tracking an elk for miles. Or download the rounds and get 300 win performance. With charges around 100-120 grns per round a pound of powder will last 65-70 rounds, so messing with surplus powders is a common way of reducing cost. I've got some on order, but won't get it for awhile. Barrel life is an issue, but not as serious as some may say. Frequent cleaning and allowing the barrel to cool at the range are not really an option. My rifle has over 500 rounds thro it and the bore still looks great to the naked eye.


Most of this stuff you probably already knew, but heck, guess I felt like being a mouthpiece. Now, if you are a one gun type or have a bit more common sense, go with a 300 win mag. If you want a BIG 300 and enjoy shooting these monsters, I would go with a 300 RUM and install a muzzle brake cause it's a LOT of fun.

300 RUM Because: Brass is around half the cost of the 30-378 and having first been a production chambering not a wildcat like the wby it isn't loaded down due to safeguard older rifles without freebore or correct chamber diamentions. And you can have both a 338 and 300 RUM w/brakes for the cost of one accumark.

CC.

 

[rick smith]

Have had two of them, both Rem 700's. Two of the easiest to work up loads for that I have ever owned. Sold one to a friend that shoots long range. Both will clover leaf three shots at 100yds without a problem and that has been consistant for the past five years.Rick.

 

[bullet]

Have had two of them, both Rem 700's. Two of the easiest to work up loads for that I have ever owned. Sold one to a friend that shoots long range. Both will clover leaf three shots at 100yds without a problem and that has been consistant for the past five years.Rick.

Just curious, why did you buy two and get rid of one that shoots so well and how many rounds have you put through the 300Rum in the past five yesrs?

 

[rick smith]

I had one built with a 28" heavy barrel and it shot with thefirst set of loads I tried in it. That first day at the range a friend of mine was with me and liked it so well he had one made but with a different stock. About a year after that he had some $$ problems and I bought his. Another hunting buddy saw my first one and had to have it, didn't need two so I sold the first one. Both are very accurate so I didn't mind only having one.

I still load for both of them so I shoot both probably a dozen times a year. Both of them have killed deer but I don't hunt with mine, too big for the stands we have on the hunting property.Rick.

 

[bullet]

I had one built with a 28" heavy barrel and it shot with thefirst set of loads I tried in it. That first day at the range a friend of mine was with me and liked it so well he had one made but with a different stock. About a year after that he had some $$ problems and I bought his. Another hunting buddy saw my first one and had to have it, didn't need two so I sold the first one. Both are very accurate so I didn't mind only having one.

I still load for both of them so I shoot both probably a dozen times a year. Both of them have killed deer but I don't hunt with mine, too big for the stands we have on the hunting property.Rick.

I bet you have fun with an accurate rifle and that round drops those deer in their tracks and far off as well.

 

[FOTIS]

Oh yeah!!!!!

I have been playing with the 300 Rums for 9 years now.