300 rum velocity with RL 25

caribouhunter

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Mar 31, 2009
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hello everyone. i'm newly registered to the forum but i've been reading your post for the last year or so. my wife bought me a reloading kit for christmas. i'd like to think it's out of love, but i bet its more related to the cost of factory 300 RUM ammo :lol: .
i reloaded my first rounds using 89 gr.to 94 gr. of rl-25 ( in 1 gr increment)behind a 168 gr. ttsx. to my good surprise every group (3 shots) went into 1"-1.5" a rare feat with factory ammo in my rifle.
coal was set at 3.600"
after that first try i set up the coal to 3.650" and used 93.5 gr. RL-25
93.5 to be 1 gr. below barnes recommended max. (since i'm new to this and dont have a mentor i want to stay on the safe side)
now i was hoping the first try was not a fluke, and that i would still get 1.25 average groups.
well first group .42"
second group .37"
and third group .52"
i even repeated that to impress my friends the next morning
with a .60" group shooting prone on bipods.
i'm really impressed with those results as was hoping for 1.5".

now i received my prochrono pal chronograph, and tried those loads
average for 10 shots is 3145 fps (deviation 23 fps)
the barnes data show that speed with 86 gr of rl 25.
i tought i'd have about 3275. now my rifle is remington 700 LLS LH.
with 26" barrel but with a muzzle break drilled in it.
can it be the cause of the lack of speed, or can it be the long coal
can firelapping help this?
sorry for making my first post so long.
and if there's nothing i can do about speed (except going overmax)
than that will be my hunting load. think that should kill, right. 8)
 
with accuracy like your getting, a little slow is not a bad thing. when working up a load, you always hope the best accuracy is at the higher end of velocity for a hunting load. but 100fps is nothing to be worried about.
 
Welcome to the forum. Glad you're here buddy. The following will give you an idea of where you're at, but it is only a prediction.



Cartridge : .300 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet : .308, 168, Barnes 'TSX'BT 30844
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.598 inch or 91.39 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch or 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218 104.8 105.1 6.81 3314 99.3 64000 14510 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 100.5 99.7 6.46 3276 98.8 64000 14218 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 104.3 98.7 6.39 3236 100.0 64000 12346 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 92.7 89.1 5.78 3224 99.9 64000 12888 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 91.7 88.7 5.75 3215 100.0 64000 12472 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 97.0 88.7 5.75 3215 100.0 64000 12472 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 92.8 92.9 6.02 3213 99.5 64000 13024 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 99.9 94.0 6.09 3212 100.0 64000 12687 1.248 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 94.8 95.5 6.19 3210 100.0 64000 12478 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 95.1 95.5 6.19 3209 100.0 64000 12467 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 95.0 95.4 6.18 3208 100.0 64000 12438 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 90.8 89.1 5.78 3208 100.0 64000 12296 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 93.0 88.4 5.73 3206 100.0 64000 12407 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 96.6 94.3 6.11 3199 100.0 64000 12122 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 101.6 94.5 6.13 3197 100.0 64000 12086 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 97.8 91.6 5.93 3195 100.0 64000 11798 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 105.0 102.0 6.61 3193 99.4 60654 13498 1.279 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 93.0 88.5 5.74 3193 100.0 64000 12247 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 93.0 88.5 5.74 3193 100.0 64000 12247 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 93.0 88.5 5.74 3193 100.0 64000 12247 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 95.6 88.9 5.76 3192 100.0 64000 12267 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 103.7 103.9 6.73 3176 94.6 64000 13133 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 94.5 88.3 5.72 3174 99.9 64000 12174 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 90.4 84.6 5.48 3168 100.0 64000 11770 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 90.8 85.5 5.54 3163 100.0 64000 11803 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 91.5 86.1 5.58 3156 100.0 64000 11716 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 81.9 81.5 5.28 3153 100.0 64000 11426 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 86.5 80.9 5.25 3149 100.0 64000 11218 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 95.9 87.7 5.68 3148 99.8 64000 11835 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 92.2 87.7 5.68 3148 99.8 64000 11835 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 89.3 84.0 5.44 3147 100.0 64000 11582 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 89.3 84.0 5.44 3147 100.0 64000 11582 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 86.5 84.0 5.44 3147 100.0 64000 11582 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 88.9 80.1 5.19 3146 100.0 64000 11227 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 86.6 84.1 5.45 3143 100.0 64000 11316 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 80.2 80.4 5.21 3137 100.0 64000 11309 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 80.0 78.9 5.11 3129 100.0 64000 10796 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 90.4 83.9 5.43 3128 100.0 64000 11438 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 104.4 97.2 6.30 3128 97.7 64000 12330 1.251 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 83.9 80.7 5.23 3123 100.0 64000 11037 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 86.3 80.3 5.20 3121 100.0 64000 10911 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 86.3 80.3 5.21 3121 100.0 64000 10908 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 90.8 86.4 5.60 3117 100.0 64000 11198 1.247 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 89.0 80.1 5.19 3112 100.0 64000 10839 1.256 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 89.8 89.1 5.77 3111 100.0 64000 11208 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 96.4 87.0 5.64 3105 100.0 64000 11193 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0701 86.7 80.7 5.23 3104 100.0 64000 10927 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 87.2 81.6 5.29 3102 100.0 64000 10523 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D1001 101.4 102.7 6.66 3101 95.1 64000 12152 1.244 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 80.8 78.5 5.08 3100 100.0 64000 10584 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 95.7 89.1 5.77 3100 100.0 64000 10946 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 85.3 78.8 5.10 3100 100.0 64000 10886 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 82.6 78.8 5.11 3099 100.0 64000 10879 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 80.9 78.6 5.09 3099 100.0 64000 10569 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 90.4 81.5 5.28 3098 100.0 64000 10657 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 79.1 74.5 4.83 3098 100.0 64000 10547 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 79.1 74.5 4.83 3098 100.0 64000 10547 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 79.1 74.5 4.83 3098 100.0 64000 10547 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 80.4 77.3 5.01 3095 100.0 64000 10647 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 77.8 78.0 5.05 3090 100.0 64000 10548 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 79.5 74.8 4.84 3089 100.0 64000 10456 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 79.9 72.7 4.71 3089 100.0 64000 10122 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 98.6 87.7 5.68 3087 100.0 64000 10782 1.267 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0651 86.0 79.1 5.13 3081 100.0 64000 10556 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 81.1 75.1 4.86 3080 100.0 64000 10208 1.217 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 82.4 75.0 4.86 3073 100.0 64000 10259 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 82.1 75.0 4.86 3073 100.0 64000 10259 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 77.6 75.4 4.89 3071 100.0 64000 10240 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 91.6 80.6 5.22 3068 100.0 64000 10098 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 74.6 76.6 4.96 3068 100.0 64000 10270 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 80.1 76.2 4.94 3065 100.0 64000 10238 1.251 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 82.7 73.5 4.76 3064 100.0 64000 10087 1.220 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 82.5 76.0 4.92 3064 100.0 64000 10213 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 82.0 76.3 4.94 3062 100.0 64000 10161 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 72.5 73.4 4.76 3061 100.0 64000 9998 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 74.5 70.5 4.57 3055 100.0 64000 9963 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 74.8 73.5 4.76 3054 100.0 64000 10004 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 72.8 73.4 4.75 3053 100.0 64000 9986 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 76.0 77.0 4.99 3051 100.0 64000 9963 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 83.8 81.4 5.28 3051 100.0 64000 10297 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 73.4 74.3 4.81 3046 100.0 64000 9996 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0621 80.3 73.5 4.76 3043 100.0 64000 9902 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 74.9 72.0 4.67 3040 100.0 64000 9905 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0601 78.8 72.1 4.67 3035 100.0 64000 9764 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 105.2 6.82 3034 92.6 56394 12645 1.321 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 81.6 74.3 4.81 3034 100.0 64000 9715 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 100.3 6.50 3031 88.4 55701 12826 1.320 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 79.7 72.3 4.69 3031 100.0 64000 9788 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 78.1 68.7 4.45 3028 100.0 64000 9578 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 76.0 73.7 4.78 3026 100.0 64000 9698 1.252 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 69.8 70.1 4.55 3023 100.0 64000 9618 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 71.2 71.8 4.65 3022 100.0 64000 9658 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 69.7 70.3 4.55 3021 100.0 64000 9605 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 78.3 72.9 4.72 3019 100.0 64000 9612 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 84.4 76.3 4.95 3019 100.0 64000 9633 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 70.0 71.9 4.66 3019 100.0 64000 9617 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 71.7 69.6 4.51 3018 100.0 64000 9560 1.219 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0731 71.8 72.0 4.66 3018 100.0 64000 9544 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 77.7 73.2 4.74 3017 100.0 64000 9586 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 77.4 71.6 4.64 3015 100.0 64000 9588 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150 87.2 77.5 5.02 3014 100.0 64000 9642 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 74.2 67.8 4.39 3012 100.0 64000 9427 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 69.8 67.8 4.39 3012 100.0 64000 9427 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 76.4 70.8 4.59 3012 100.0 64000 9507 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 72.1 72.8 4.71 3012 100.0 64000 9555 1.248 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 83.0 73.0 4.73 3011 100.0 64000 9638 1.270 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 70.3 70.4 4.56 3011 100.0 64000 9492 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0733 71.5 71.7 4.64 3010 100.0 64000 9458 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 79.4 75.5 4.90 3010 100.0 64000 9682 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 71.2 71.8 4.65 3008 100.0 64000 9468 1.242 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 68.5 69.0 4.47 3007 100.0 64000 9442 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200 69.9 66.7 4.32 3007 100.0 64000 9361 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 76.6 68.5 4.44 3006 100.0 64000 9512 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 77.2 68.7 4.45 2985 100.0 64000 9342 1.273 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 67.1 64.8 4.20 2983 100.0 64000 9144 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0832 72.4 71.9 4.66 2978 100.0 64000 9072 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 74.5 71.5 4.63 2978 100.0 64000 9182 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 101.0 6.54 2976 96.0 52710 12238 1.372
Hodgdon H4198 71.7 63.3 4.10 2968 100.0 64000 8853 1.203 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135 83.7 71.4 4.63 2966 100.0 64000 9014 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680 62.6 63.3 4.10 2962 100.0 64000 8898 1.212 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 72.5 64.4 4.17 2960 100.0 64000 8979 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744 64.8 57.0 3.69 2959 100.0 64000 8976 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 106.3 6.89 2959 93.7 51247 12518 1.393
Somchem S335 78.3 72.1 4.67 2952 100.0 64000 8976 1.241 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015 73.5 66.9 4.34 2947 100.0 64000 8846 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 65.6 63.8 4.14 2933 100.0 64000 8759 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 65.6 63.8 4.14 2933 100.0 64000 8759 1.250 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 79.9 68.8 4.46 2931 100.0 64000 8635 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198 73.2 61.8 4.00 2930 100.0 64000 8560 1.213 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder- 7 69.2 63.0 4.08 2922 100.0 64000 8602 1.231 ! Near Maximum !
SF-033 fl 68.6 65.9 4.27 2921 100.0 64000 8648 1.257 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 75.7 66.6 4.31 2919 100.0 64000 8583 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 72.4 66.6 4.32 2918 100.0 64000 8579 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 101.0 6.54 2915 93.9 49527 12089 1.405
Winchester 296 54.9 55.5 3.60 2911 100.0 64000 8553 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700 105.0 101.2 6.56 2904 94.9 47543 12055 1.407
ADI AR 2207 69.1 60.8 3.94 2899 100.0 64000 8442 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227 67.5 58.2 3.77 2886 100.0 64000 8194 1.208 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227 67.4 58.0 3.76 2882 100.0 64000 8184 1.215 ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 61.1 57.5 3.73 2871 100.0 64000 8128 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0631 56.5 55.5 3.59 2856 100.0 64000 7977 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120 71.4 61.3 3.97 2849 100.0 64000 7962 1.239 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H110 57.0 57.6 3.73 2840 100.0 64000 8042 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0531 68.4 57.7 3.74 2835 100.0 64000 7871 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S265 67.8 58.6 3.80 2810 100.0 64000 7714 1.281 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400 55.7 49.8 3.22 2797 100.0 64000 7602 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2205 66.1 59.1 3.83 2790 100.0 64000 7609 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 55.5 54.2 3.51 2788 100.0 64000 7650 1.248 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4100 56.3 54.7 3.54 2782 100.0 64000 7453 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0401 60.9 51.1 3.31 2768 100.0 64000 7363 1.216 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N110 65.3 52.1 3.38 2766 100.0 64000 7372 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 512 58.1 52.3 3.39 2762 100.0 64000 7373 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Enforcer 54.3 52.2 3.38 2761 100.0 64000 7369 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R910 58.6 51.0 3.30 2759 100.0 64000 7310 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.9 50.4 50.9 3.30 2740 100.0 64000 7209 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BLUE DOT 62.4 47.8 3.10 2730 100.0 64000 7229 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 96.7 6.26 2715 72.6 41918 10681 1.453
Accurate No.7 46.7 47.3 3.07 2704 100.0 64000 6985 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant POWER PISTOL 54.9 41.0 2.66 2702 100.0 64000 7155 1.206 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0051 56.0 38.9 2.52 2701 100.0 64000 7142 1.238 ! Near Maximum !
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 96.7 6.26 2674 75.5 40305 10689 1.485
Accurate No.5 41.6 44.3 2.87 2669 100.0 64000 6850 1.229 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R123 51.0 47.9 3.11 2666 100.0 64000 6840 1.261 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-D0361 43.9 42.6 2.76 2662 100.0 64000 6801 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S221 47.2 46.3 3.00 2654 100.0 64000 6738 1.319 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N38 60.1 46.1 2.99 2654 100.0 64000 6604 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N105 60.0 44.2 2.86 2625 100.0 64000 6415 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 100 68.4 44.4 2.88 2622 100.0 64000 6494 1.218 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant BULLSEYE 59.2 36.9 2.39 2602 100.0 64000 6540 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant HERCO 69.8 41.2 2.67 2584 100.0 64000 6371 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon HS-6 48.3 44.9 2.91 2577 100.0 64000 6232 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P806 54.9 51.7 3.35 2575 100.0 64000 6443 1.262 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant UNIQUE 64.6 39.2 2.54 2573 100.0 64000 6298 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 90 65.4 42.5 2.75 2572 100.0 64000 6222 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 3N37 59.3 43.1 2.79 2569 100.0 64000 6191 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 504 47.1 44.4 2.87 2564 100.0 64000 6160 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot True Blue 46.4 44.4 2.87 2564 100.0 64000 6160 1.232 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 540 45.7 44.3 2.87 2564 100.0 64000 6156 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 506 58.1 38.6 2.50 2558 100.0 64000 6215 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N350 61.8 42.3 2.74 2557 100.0 64000 6088 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 501 52.5 43.0 2.79 2554 100.0 64000 6150 1.228 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MP200 59.4 41.2 2.67 2552 100.0 64000 6129 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WAP 52.4 42.8 2.78 2551 100.0 64000 6129 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Silhouette 52.3 42.8 2.77 2550 100.0 64000 6120 1.224 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem MS200 65.8 40.4 2.62 2539 100.0 64000 6050 1.274 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil J706 72.7 40.9 2.65 2529 100.0 64000 6061 1.240 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate Nitro 100 74.1 36.4 2.36 2528 100.0 64000 6082 1.237 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 70N 58.4 39.1 2.53 2524 100.0 64000 6000 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Universal 64.7 39.1 2.53 2524 100.0 64000 6000 1.236 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2 47.5 37.4 2.43 2520 100.0 64000 5827 1.255 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N340 63.9 39.8 2.58 2518 100.0 64000 5852 1.227 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant RED DOT 79.6 37.3 2.42 2507 100.0 64000 5945 1.214 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant GREEN DOT 73.8 38.7 2.51 2506 100.0 64000 5912 1.243 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil P803 59.5 40.8 2.64 2503 100.0 64000 5837 1.234 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AS 50N 69.9 38.3 2.48 2500 100.0 64000 5841 1.244 ! Near Maximum !
 
Welcome to the forum and you have quite an impressive group to brag about. Most loading manuals show velocities from a pressure barrel with tight chamber measurments so they will have higher velocities than even your 26" barrel. You can work up some if you want but it sounds like you have a good load. The only thing better would be shooting Accubonds. (My experiences) for terminal performance. I think they are more accurate too but it would be hard to beat the accurate load you have. Welcome to the world of reloading, ain't it great! :grin:
You've picked the best forum for honest, knowlegable information I have found for the novice thrue expert reloader.
Let us know how your shooting goes.(PICTURES are always appreciated)
Good Hunting
Elkhunt :grin:
 
caribouhunter,

Welcome to the forum. Accuracy is much more to be desired than velocity. It looks like you have found a sweet spot for your rifle with that combination. I'd use it and never look back.

Consequently, that is a fine standard deviation for ten shots. It shows care and attention to technique in reloading.
 
caribouhunter,

Absolutely welcome to the forum !
It's great to see such dedication and attention to your handloading !

I'm fairly confident what ever is on the opposite end of that RUM isn't going to care about 100 / 150 fps. That is a great shooting rifle you have there.... always go with the most accurate group... it's also a great confidence builder !
 
ok I aam going to hijack this thread a little

I am working up a load for my rum as we speak I am glad to hear of you accuracy however this is where I become confused with different manufacturers load data

barnes says you are near max load with rl25 @93.5 where noseler gives data for its 165s and rl 25 a max load of 96.5 thats a big difference what gives

how does your rifle feed does it seem to be ok I know wwe are only talking a little bit of length but sounds like length is good for accuracy
 
Different bullets. Different bearing surfaces. Similar pressures generated.
 
caribouhunter,

I will echo everyone else and say welcome to this site and to reloading. It appears that you are now hooked for life :). This is really the best site i have been part of and i have at least ventured to no less than a dozen.The folks here are great, they without a doubt will help you and unlike most forums your thread will not be hijacked by people just trying to BULL S**T you or piss you off. Great shooting by the way, remember no load is good if you don't do your part. I have been messing with the 300 RUM for about six months now and i have begun to believe that the key to this cartridge is pressure. I say that because it seems to like heavy pills with large quantities of powder and lots of bearing surface . the all copper construction and grooved shank of the TTSX will likely mean less pressure in your rifle and i think that is a good thing. Also with outstanding accuracy like you have i would not worry about velocity. I am not real familiar with the TTSX but i wonder what is the max impact velocity of the bullet before it is "unreliable"if you will. I try to get best accuracy first then if possible get velocity near max for reliability but never over. I have shot elk at 30 Yards so i don't need a load going 3400 fps for that kinda shot. I have been told that the Barnes bullets shoot great from some rifles and terrible from others but they may have earned a try from me. But right now and after the last several years of elk hunting the AccuBond is my go to guy for elk. we expect more great reports from you and i am especially curious about your loads.

Craig,
 
WOW!
thank you all for your fast answers.
looks like i will keep that load then. i chose the ttsx over the 200 gr. AccuBond only because of the type of hunting i do. hunting here in quebec
means shot at relatively close range, and i've had many (read four)
bullet fragmentation problems so far with bonded bullets. i want my bullet to hold together if a big bull moose comes in at 30 yard and gives me only
a quatering toward shot in the thick brush.
so far my longest shot have been 409 y. on a bull caribou and 376 y. on a deer in manitoba. from what i've seen the ttsx needs at least 2000 fps
to open up. with the calculation i made, using a conservative .404 BC
i will have 2050 fps at 500 yards.
if for some reason i'm not satisfied with the terminal performance of the barnes. i'll go back to the 180 g. Partition that served me so well when it was available in remington factory ammo.

keep up the good work, its an oustanding forum you have.
lots of experienced shooters, reloaders and hunters.
 
this first target was shot on my uncle's picnic table he wanted me to go to is place and try his rifle in my new chronograph. i brought mine and my wife's 260 remington model 7 youth. i wanted to compare my loads. (its 93.8 gr. rl- 25 but now i settled for 93.5) with factory ammo using 180 gr. nosler Partition for velocity check
as you can see my wife's 260 is a shooter. i'm eager to start reloading for it. i plan on trying 120 ballistic tip. cause the 140 corelock only go 2550. and internal damage on the 3 bucks she shot could be improved.

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this is a 5 shot group i shot with 92.5 gr. accuracy was excellent
but velocity variation were a bit higher. the first shot went to the right
i had just move my scope adjustment 6 clicks up i am wondering if that's what made it shoot to the right like that, but might as well be only the shooter. :oops:

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that last picture is the group i got with my first try with 93.6 grains RL 25
i decided to use this load because it was the load with the lowest velocity spread. i actually load 93.5 now it will be easier to remember :lol:
and the groups didn't change at all. but now i shoot only 3 shots it's better for bragging reasons :lol:

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Wow, those are some excellent groups. That 168gr Barnes will be really good out of the 300 Ult Mag. I have had good luck with Barnes bullets on game. Seems like you have a really long range hammer with those loads. Scotty
 
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