300 wby..errr win...ammo mismatch

[jtoews80]

Check out these pictures of a piece of 300 win mag brass that was fired in a 300 wby. I got this piece of brass from a local sporting goods store owner. Apparently, a customer came in with a rifle stating that he wasn't sure if his new rifle was working right.

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I've placed a 300 wby case and a 300 winchester case on each side for comparison. Now this guy had a LOT more luck than brains. Most often this results in a badly damaged firearm and serious injury or death. Kinda just like the box says if not used in the correct firearm.

I doubt anybody on this forum would do something like this, but posted the pictures as some might find it amusing or interesting.

Worst thing about this is that the guy brought in a box of 15 of these cases!!!!!!!

 

[bsmith]

Apparently that mistake happens more often than you'd think. Here's another instance of it

Early this spring I was at the local public range and a guy there was shooting an old and very abused Spanish 8MM Mauser. I picked up one of the empties for my son's collection (shooter didn't reload) and noticed it was split. I picked up the rest and almost every one of them had a split neck or shoulder. I warned the shooter about this and he responded that "they were that way before I shot them." :shock: That was the instant I decided to join a private club...

 

[JD338]

I saw the exact same thing last year at the local sportsman's club.
Some people are just palin dumb! :shock:

JD338

 

[longwinters]

What I want to know is did they shoot MOA? :lol: :lol:

Long

 

[jtoews80]

The merchant who gave me the brass said that when the customer brought the rifle into his store to find out what was wrong, he opened the bolt as per "normal practice" and ejected a round. I have no idea if the guy could shoot accurately. I don't think he should shoot at all, not with things like this happening. People like this really make our sport look terrible. I would not move for, nor support, any more requirements to handle or possess a firearm in Canada, but I thought that it was generally understood that you should be able to spell your own name, and answer a few questions regarding firearms safety......

All I can say is that there need to be a few more people passing down our heritage of outdoor & shooting sports with the proper ethics and training long before handing a youngster a gun. We don't need more mindless mandatory training courses and legitation. Just teach the next generation to respect the game we hunt, the places we hunt(Public lands or other people's fields etc) and be very cautious with tools we use. Like any tools they will do what they were made for with absolutely no conscience. A powersaw will not apologize for removing the hand of a careless user either. It just does. Sorry to ramble, Crazy Canuck.

 

[FOTIS]

OOOOOOOOOOOH!

Way to fireform dude!

My lord!

 

[R Flowers]

Yeah, I was at a public range a number of years back and noticed a guy who was obviously not happy with his brand new Weatherby Mark V.

It was a beautifull rifle, he had just purchased it and was shooting it for the first time. His groups were just awfull and he was getting frustrated.

I went over and asked him what the problem was. He went to complaining about spending all this money on a Weatherby and it would not shoot for beans!

About then I looked at the brass laying there and realized he was shooting 300 Win Mag brass in his new 300 Weatherby. I told him that was the problem and asked him if did not know the difference. He said that he thought the darned Weatherby ammo was just too expensive and that the stuff he bought would be fine.

He spent all that money on the rifle, but could not afford proper ammo for it !! Yeah right!

Actually this is safe enough, it just headspaces on the belt. But the groups are lousy and the ejected brass is interesting.

You see all sorts of things out there.

 

[FOTIS]

Yeah, I was at a public range a number of years back and noticed a guy who was obviously not happy with his brand new Weatherby Mark V.

It was a beautifull rifle, he had just purchased it and was shooting it for the first time. His groups were just awfull and he was getting frustrated.

I went over and asked him what the problem was. He went to complaining about spending all this money on a Weatherby and it would not shoot for beans!

About then I looked at the brass laying there and realized he was shooting 300 Win Mag brass in his new 300 Weatherby. I told him that was the problem and asked him if did not know the difference. He said that he thought the darned Weatherby ammo was just too expensive and that the stuff he bought would be fine.

He spent all that money on the rifle, but could not afford proper ammo for it !! Yeah right!

Actually this is safe enough, it just headspaces on the belt. But the groups are lousy and the ejected brass is interesting.

You see all sorts of things out there.

I was a range safety official while stationed in Germany. You could not believe what I have seen.

9mm shot in 380's.
Sales persons trying to sell 22-250 to a guy who has a 25-06 and myriads more.

My favorite?
A guy who let another guy reload for his new sako 25-06. The "eperienced handloader" mixed up a 140 6.5mm Sierra with a 117 .257" Sierra both Gamekings!

You can guess what happened to the Sako and the shooter's face.

 

[Guest]

My favorite?
A guy who let another guy reload for his new sako 25-06. The "eperienced handloader" mixed up a 140 6.5mm Sierra with a 117 .257" Sierra both Gamekings!

You can guess what happened to the Sako and the shooter's face.

This is why I don't handload for other people, and don't shoot other's handloads. From my standpoint, I can't control what somebody does after I prepare the handloads, and that means I can't be sure what firearm they are being used in, what condition the gun is in, etc. There's just too much that can go wrong, and too many lawyers waiting for it to happen. I have friends who come over and use my setup, and some even use my dies, but they do the work, after some significant training on how. I supervise. This way, I can avoid the issue of liability, as they assemble their own ammo! I bet I've gotten eight or ten folks into handloading this way.

 

[FOTIS]

Very wise