300 WSM

[Bob in TX]

Nosler,

Do you have any new data on loading the 165 gr. and 180 gr. Accubonds in the 300 WSM using some of the newer powders like RL-17, Hybrid 100v, or Hunter?

Bob

 

[FOTIS]

PM'ed yah!

 

[Bob in TX]

Got it!

Thanks Fotis!

Bob

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

delete.

 

[Bob in TX]

Hoping that Nosler is back at work today............

 

[Richracer1]

Do a search for RL-17. I posted up what Alliant sent to me a while back.

 

[FOTIS]

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Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
110 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.650" 70.0 3437 53,500 PSI 74.5C 3646 63,300 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.650" 70.0 3538 55,800 PSI 73.5 3692 62,900 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP Winchester 760 .308" 2.650" 70.0 3538 55,800 PSI 73.5 3692 62,900 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.650" 66.7 3426 52,300 PSI 71.0C 3643 62,800 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.650" 68.0 3456 52,500 PSI 71.0 3600 60,200 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.650" 62.0 3454 54,300 PSI 66.0 3631 63,200 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.650" 60.0 3495 56,800 PSI 63.5 3647 63,600 PSI
110 GR. SPR SP IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.650" 60.3 3555 54,400 PSI 63.5 3697 62,400 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.810" 69.0 3332 55,800 PSI 73.0 3481 63,000 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.810" 68.0 3318 51,300 PSI 72.0 3540 63,300 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT Winchester 760 .308" 2.810" 68.0 3318 51,300 PSI 72.0 3540 63,300 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.810" 65.8 3243 49,700 PSI 70.0C 3487 62,800 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.810" 68.0 3346 55,100 PSI 71.0 3493 62,600 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.810" 61.0 3312 54,700 PSI 65.0 3478 63,100 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.810" 58.0 3314 56,600 PSI 61.0 3431 63,000 PSI
125 GR. NOS BT IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.810" 58.3 3350 53,600 PSI 62.0 3496 61,700 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.720" 67.0 3237 54,900 PSI 71.0 3393 63,200 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.720" 66.0 3267 54,500 PSI 70.0 3437 63,700 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP Winchester 760 .308" 2.720" 66.0 3267 54,500 PSI 70.0 3437 63,700 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.720" 64.4 3213 53,500 PSI 68.5 3393 63,000 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.720" 66.0 3244 55,700 PSI 69.5 3497 63,300 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.720" 60.0 3269 58,100 PSI 63.5 3388 63,500 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.720" 56.0 3213 55,700 PSI 58.5 3318 63,000 PSI
130 GR. HDY SP IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.720" 56.4 3272 56,600 PSI 60.0 3391 61,900 PSI
140 GR. BAR XBT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.800" 65.0 3113 53,900 PSI 69.0 3288 63,100 PSI
140 GR. BAR XBT Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.800" 64.0 3158 54,600 PSI 67.5 3328 63,500 PSI
140 GR. BAR XBT Winchester 760 .308" 2.800" 64.0 3158 54,600 PSI 67.5 3328 63,500 PSI
140 GR. BAR XBT Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.800" 63.0 3128 56,100 PSI 66.2 3276 63,300 PSI
140 GR. BAR XBT Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.800" 56.0 3086 54,800 PSI 60.0 3248 63,200 PSI
140 GR. BAR XBT Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.800" 52.0 2998 51,700 PSI 56.0 3201 63,400 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.780" 69.6 2940 48,900 PSI 74.0 3134 59,200 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.780" 63.0 2948 49,400 PSI 67.0C 3127 57,700 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.780" 63.0 3040 55,700 PSI 67.0 3187 63,200 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.780" 62.0 3025 53,400 PSI 66.0 3204 63,300 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR IMR 4350 .308" 2.780" 64.0 3006 50,200 PSI 68.0 3221 62,100 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Winchester 760 .308" 2.780" 62.0 3025 53,400 PSI 66.0 3204 63,300 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.780" 61.8 3125 57,200 PSI 63.7 3220 63,100 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.780" 60.0 2987 54,900 PSI 64.0 3141 63,600 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.780" 55.0 3008 56,800 PSI 58.5 3140 63,800 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR IMR 4320 .308" 2.780" 57.0 3004 54,000 PSI 61.0 3172 63,900 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR IMR 4064 .308" 2.780" 57.0 3012 52,100 PSI 61.0 3198 63,300 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR IMR 4895 .308" 2.780" 56.0 2980 50,800 PSI 60.5 3176 62,300 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.780" 51.0 2919 53,400 PSI 54.5 3078 63,100 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.780" 52.6 2992 55,800 PSI 56.0 3115 62,300 PSI
150 GR. SPR GSSP IMR Trail Boss .308" 2.780" 16.3 1473 26,400 PSI 23.3 1758 31,600 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.860" 70.0 3054 51,700 PSI 74.5 3201 60,800 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.860" 63.0 3060 51,800 PSI 68.5C 3269 62,300 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.860" 63.0 3014 55,300 PSI 66.5 3156 63,200 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.860" 63.0 3023 53,300 PSI 66.5 3206 63,100 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Winchester 760 .308" 2.860" 63.0 3023 53,300 PSI 66.5 3206 63,100 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.860" 61.9 2990 53,700 PSI 65.8 3167 63,500 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.860" 60.0 2956 54,500 PSI 64.0 3117 63,100 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.860" 55.0 2963 54,800 PSI 58.5 3110 63,600 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.860" 52.0 2935 55,800 PSI 55.0 3061 63,600 PSI
155 GR. HDY A-MAX IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.860" 53.0 2990 56,800 PSI 56.4 3110 63,400 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.860" 69.4 2951 50,300 PSI 73.8 3139 61,300 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.860" 62.0 2957 51,600 PSI 68.0C 3175 63,100 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2898 54,800 PSI 65.5 3047 63,600 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2915 54,200 PSI 65.0 3069 63,200 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Winchester 760 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2915 54,200 PSI 65.0 3069 63,200 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.860" 59.0 2854 55,100 PSI 63.0 3012 63,600 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon Varget .308" 2.860" 54.0 2859 56,400 PSI 57.5 2987 63,700 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART Hodgdon H4895 .308" 2.860" 51.0 2810 55,700 PSI 54.0 2929 63,200 PSI
165 GR. NOS PART IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.860" 51.1 2849 55,600 PSI 54.4 2963 61,700 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.840" 69.1 2936 50,900 PSI 73.5 3133 63,100 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H4831 .308" 2.840" 65.0 2848 53,400 PSI 69.5C 3015 63,200 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.840" 62.0 2921 49,800 PSI 67.7C 3144 61,100 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.840" 61.0 2908 56,000 PSI 64.5 3034 63,700 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.840" 61.0 2919 54,600 PSI 65.0 3074 63,200 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Winchester 760 .308" 2.840" 61.0 2919 54,600 PSI 65.0 3074 63,200 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.840" 60.0 2848 51,300 PSI 63.8 3013 60,800 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.840" 59.0 2865 56,000 PSI 62.0 2985 63,300 PSI
168 GR. SIE HPBT IMR IMR 8208 XBR .308" 2.840" 51.5 2853 56,400 PSI 54.8 2970 63,400 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.860" 67.7 2910 54,000 PSI 72.0 3069 63,000 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H4831 .308" 2.860" 66.0 2848 55,300 PSI 70.0C 2980 63,100 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.860" 61.0 2878 51,000 PSI 66.5C 3085 61,700 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2839 53,300 PSI 65.0 3009 63,400 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2868 53,900 PSI 65.0 3032 63,200 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Winchester 760 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2868 53,900 PSI 65.0 3032 63,200 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.860" 58.6 2797 52,700 PSI 62.3 2964 63,400 PSI
175 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.860" 60.0 2859 57,600 PSI 63.0 2954 63,200 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR IMR IMR 7828 .308" 2.860" 65.0 2783 54,400 PSI 69.5C* 2943 62,600 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.860" 65.8 2779 52,500 PSI 70.0 2923 60,800 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Hodgdon H4831 .308" 2.860" 65.5 2775 52,000 PSI 70.0C 2929 64,000 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.860" 59.0 2728 50,200 PSI 64.0C 2918 59,800 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR IMR IMR 4831 .308" 2.860" 62.0 2797 52,700 PSI 66.3C 2980 62,900 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.860" 60.0 2799 55,700 PSI 64.0 2950 63,900 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.860" 59.0 2801 54,100 PSI 62.5 2959 63,000 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR IMR IMR 4350 .308" 2.860" 61.0 2808 52,800 PSI 65.0C 2991 63,700 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Winchester 760 .308" 2.860" 59.0 2801 54,100 PSI 62.5 2959 63,000 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.860" 57.0 2806 56,800 PSI 59.8 2927 63,000 PSI
180 GR. SFT SCIR Hodgdon H380 .308" 2.860" 57.0 2718 53,700 PSI 61.0 2884 63,400 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT IMR IMR 7828 .308" 2.860" 64.0 2703 52,100 PSI 69.0C* 2891 63,300 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.860" 65.8 2769 50,800 PSI 70.0 2954 62,200 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H4831 .308" 2.860" 62.0 2704 53,800 PSI 66.5C 2858 63,400 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.860" 60.0 2790 52,000 PSI 64.5C 2951 61,000 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4831 .308" 2.860" 60.0 2679 49,300 PSI 64.0C 2867 61,700 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.860" 57.5 2736 56,200 PSI 61.0 2853 63,400 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.860" 59.0 2765 55,600 PSI 62.5 2896 63,800 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT IMR IMR 4350 .308" 2.860" 60.0 2755 53,200 PSI 64.0C 2920 63,700 PSI
190 GR. SIE HPBT Winchester 760 .308" 2.860" 59.0 2765 55,600 PSI 62.5 2896 63,800 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP Hodgdon H1000 .308" 2.790" 70.0 2660 51,600 PSI 72.0C 2737 57,200 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP IMR IMR 7828 .308" 2.790" 63.0 2580 50,000 PSI 67.5C* 2793 63,100 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.790" 65.3 2667 53,500 PSI 69.5 2815 61,800 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP Hodgdon H4831 .308" 2.790" 63.0 2678 56,000 PSI 66.5C 2802 63,700 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP IMR IMR 4831 .308" 2.790" 59.0 2565 49,200 PSI 63.7C 2780 62,200 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.790" 58.0 2666 55,000 PSI 62.0 2792 63,200 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.790" 58.0 2678 55,700 PSI 61.0 2803 63,200 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP IMR IMR 4350 .308" 2.790" 59.0 2643 52,900 PSI 63.5C 2827 63,700 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP Winchester 760 .308" 2.790" 58.0 2678 55,700 PSI 61.0 2803 63,200 PSI
200 GR. SFT SP IMR IMR 4007 SSC .308" 2.790" 56.6 2651 54,500 PSI 59.8 2788 64,000 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon H1000 .308" 2.830" 69.0 2597 57,200 PSI 72.5C 2689 63,000 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Winchester Supreme 780 .308" 2.830" 63.4 2587 53,100 PSI 67.5 2735 62,900 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon H4831 .308" 2.830" 60.0 2520 55,600 PSI 64.3C 2646 63,500 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon Hybrid 100V .308" 2.830" 57.0 2522 49,300 PSI 62.0C 2711 61,400 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon H4350 .308" 2.830" 54.0 2476 54,100 PSI 58.0 2602 63,300 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Hodgdon H414 .308" 2.830" 55.0 2484 54,000 PSI 59.0 2624 63,600 PSI
220 GR. HDY RN Winchester 760 .308" 2.830" 55.0 2484 54,000 PSI 59.0 2624 63,600 PSI
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[Big Squeeze]

Nosler,

Do you have any new data on loading the 165 gr. and 180 gr. Accubonds in the 300 WSM using some of the newer powders like RL-17, Hybrid 100v, or Hunter?

Bob

.................Since you`ll need to start with lower charges and work up your loads anyway using the Accubonds with these new powders, you can go to the Hodgdon site and find 300 WSM loadings using the Hybrid 100V and go to the Alliant site to find RL17 data.

According to Alliant, 66 gr RL17 (max), gets 3082 fps using the 180 gr Speer from a 24" barrel. There is also 165 gr loadings for RL17 posted there.

In my 49th edition Lyman manual, Hunter is shown using 66.5 gr (max) with a 165 gr Nosler B/Tip @ 3074 fps and 65.0 gr (max) using a 180 gr Swift Scirocco @ 2974 fps. 24" barrels for both loads.

FWIW! After working up to near max, I just finished chronying an RL17 loading from my 300 WSM for hunting use. 66.5 gr RL17 using a 175 gr Berger (hunting) VLD, gave me 2984 fps and 1/2 to 3/4 MOA OD groups.

A little slow maybe?...... Nupe!......Not out of a 16.5" barreled 300 WSM Ruger Frontier compact.

 

[Bob in TX]

I appreciate the feedback. I had already gone to the Hodgdon and Alliant sites. I was just wondering if Nosler had done any testing.

Oh, well.........

I went to the range today and shot a load I worked up using 165 gr. TSX's, 58.5 grs. RL-15, Win. Brass, and WLRM Primers.
I am ready to start on some 180 gr. Accubonds for the heavier bullets.

Bob

Here is the target. .442"

 

[Guy Miner]

Looks pretty good!

With the .300 WSM, I had excellent results from both H4350 and Hunter. Not sure what the heck I did with that data though... Been looking for it... Ooops. Better loads for both were at the top of the manufacturers recommended loads, I do remember that.

Sold the rifle and seem to have misplaced the load data. Here somewhere... I kept the components & dies because it was working so well w/165's, 180's and even 210 gr bullets...

Guy

 

[FOTIS]

What is velocity Bob?

 

[JD338]

Bob,

Looks like a winning load.

JD338

 

[Bob in TX]

I didn't chrono it, but it should be running about 3050 fps.

 

[DrMike]

Bob,

That looks like an accurate load. If no pressure signs, you are home free.

 

[russ808]

Bob,
I've been using imr-4350 @ 64 grains or imr-4831 @ 66 grains.
CCI-250
180 grain abonds
Russ