300wsm E-Tip loads?

[Missouri]

I have got a Kimber Montana in 300wsm and I am looken for any load info that you all mite have with the 150gr and 180gr E-Tips. I have a good paper load but now I need a good hunting load......


Thanks randy...

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[corbin9191]

It looks to me, like you already have a really good load by looking at the paper. What load are you using right now?

 

[JD338]

Missouri

Welcome to the forum.
Looks like you have a shooter, congratulations!
What is your current load?

As for the E-Tips, I have only used the 7mm 150 gr. My best load had the bullet seated.100" off the lands. As you develop your loads, remember to start at starting min loads and work up to the Nosler mid range loads. Use the mid range load as your MAX load. Start with a seating depth of .100" off the lands as from what I have read and experienced, this is where your best accuracy is at. Let us know what loads you end up with and how they shoot for you.

JD338

 

[Missouri]

Thanks here is what I am shooten right now.....
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[Missouri]

I have played with the 150gr E-Tip with a 280Rem and RL22... This rifle will shoot most aything under a inch and thats what it did with the E-Tip to.....My taxidermist just shot him a 5x6 elk with it...

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 180, Nosler E-Tip preliminary
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch or 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

118 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP 105.7 70.0 4.54 3063 99.6 63000 11608 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 107.4 69.7 4.51 3047 97.4 63000 11796 1.142 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 109.9 74.5 4.83 3036 98.1 63000 11569 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 109.8 74.4 4.82 3036 98.1 63000 11553 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 107.7 72.7 4.71 3035 95.9 63000 11819 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 110.0 74.4 4.82 3034 98.0 62827 11574 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 107.7 69.1 4.48 3027 98.8 63000 11390 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 107.7 69.1 4.48 3027 98.8 63000 11390 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 107.7 69.1 4.48 3027 98.8 63000 11390 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 105.8 69.0 4.47 3026 97.7 63000 11386 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 106.7 68.4 4.44 3010 97.5 63000 11279 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 110.0 69.1 4.48 3009 98.6 61842 11358 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 108.8 68.5 4.44 2984 97.2 63000 11029 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 110.0 72.5 4.70 2979 97.5 62013 11068 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 103.5 65.4 4.24 2978 98.6 63000 10757 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 104.1 66.1 4.28 2977 98.7 63000 10830 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350 99.3 62.7 4.06 2977 100.0 63000 10366 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 96.5 65.3 4.23 2976 99.9 63000 10524 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 101.5 64.1 4.15 2972 100.0 63000 9747 1.163 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 110.0 67.8 4.40 2972 97.1 59441 11236 1.166 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 94.1 63.1 4.09 2971 99.6 63000 10538 1.159 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 104.9 66.6 4.31 2970 98.6 63000 10750 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 99.1 62.2 4.03 2955 100.0 63000 10063 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 96.2 62.4 4.04 2955 100.0 63000 10197 1.169 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 99.1 62.2 4.03 2955 100.0 63000 10060 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 107.4 65.3 4.23 2953 99.9 63000 10224 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 69.4 4.50 2953 99.9 55690 11043 1.201 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 101.9 64.7 4.19 2950 98.5 63000 10531 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 101.9 64.7 4.19 2950 98.5 63000 10531 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 98.7 64.7 4.19 2950 98.5 63000 10531 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 102.7 62.3 4.04 2949 100.0 63000 10012 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 106.2 68.1 4.42 2946 96.4 63000 10661 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 90.4 61.1 3.96 2942 99.8 63000 10236 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 104.3 66.9 4.34 2940 99.2 63000 10351 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame 95.5 60.6 3.93 2934 100.0 63000 9694 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 103.8 63.1 4.09 2934 97.9 63000 10413 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 92.6 60.7 3.93 2933 100.0 63000 9681 1.164 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 67.8 4.40 2933 96.2 62068 10620 1.156 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 109.7 68.9 4.46 2922 99.0 63000 10090 1.161 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 91.4 56.1 3.64 2919 100.0 63000 9122 1.149 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 102.7 64.3 4.16 2917 97.6 63000 10243 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 90.2 57.2 3.71 2914 100.0 63000 9565 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 90.2 57.2 3.71 2914 100.0 63000 9565 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 90.2 57.2 3.71 2914 100.0 63000 9565 1.172 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 90.6 57.5 3.72 2910 100.0 63000 9486 1.173 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 91.5 59.3 3.84 2909 100.0 63000 9715 1.175 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 109.6 66.7 4.32 2899 97.5 63000 10048 1.160 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 91.7 58.8 3.81 2898 100.0 63000 9325 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 92.2 57.5 3.73 2898 100.0 63000 9226 1.158 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 96.5 58.9 3.82 2893 100.0 63000 9245 1.186 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 96.4 60.1 3.89 2891 99.2 63000 9839 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 93.4 60.1 3.90 2890 99.2 63000 9832 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 94.0 58.4 3.78 2890 100.0 63000 9272 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 93.1 57.2 3.70 2882 100.0 63000 9258 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 92.8 57.2 3.70 2882 100.0 63000 9258 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 93.6 56.1 3.64 2872 100.0 63000 9066 1.167 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 110.0 69.8 4.52 2865 96.0 50819 11305 1.260
Hodgdon H4895 92.7 56.9 3.69 2862 100.0 63000 8741 1.167 ! Near Maximum !

 

[Missouri]

Thanks POP! Thats helps a lot.......

 

[FOTIS]

My pleasure sir.

 

[Big Squeeze]

Another powder to try for your 300 WSM, which I will try in mine whenever it gets distributed, is the new Rel #17!!

According to Alliant, this new powder which was designed specifically for the WSM`s, gave the best velocity (a 104 fps increase) and the better accuracy in the 300 WSM vs all other powders in the Speer manual which are listed.

See the press release on accurateshooter.com dated 2/12, 13th or on the 14th.

 

[JD338]

Another powder to try for your 300 WSM, which I will try in mine whenever it gets distributed, is the new Rel #17!!

According to Alliant, this new powder which was designed specifically for the WSM`s, gave the best velocity (a 104 fps increase) and the better accuracy in the 300 WSM vs all other powders in the Speer manual which are listed.

See the press release on accurateshooter.com dated 2/12, 13th or on the 14th.

Big Squeeze

Can you provide us with the link?

JD338

 

[7 STW]

If you were loading for your 300 Win Mag Randy I could help ya..Haven't loaded for the short mags..Still lovin my belted magnums...Do you ever use your 300 Win mag anymore?

 

[YoteSmoker]

H4350

 

[FOTIS]

(Suggestion for Reloder® 17 Flyer)

NEW TECHNOLOGY MAXIMIZES VELOCITY

Alliant Powder introduces Reloder® 17, a smokeless powder that utilizes new technology to increase projectile velocity in most standard rifle calibers and the new short magnum cartridges.

INSERT LABEL GRAPHICS


The table below reveals the velocity gain over the nearest competitor for many popular calibers (this information is taken from the latest revision of the Speer Reloading Manual).

CALIBER BULLET VELOCITY GAIN
243 Win 85 gr. HP 3316 +48
243 WSM 70 gr HP 3745 +198
243 WSM 80 gr SP 3512 +80
243 WSM 85 gr BTSP 3452 +178
6mm Rem 70 gr HP 3682 +89
6mm Rem 80 gr SP 3500 +112
6mm Rem 85 gr BTSP 3441 +156
270 WSM 100 gr HP 3668 +23
270 Win 100 gr HP 3554 +118
280 Rem 110 gr HP 3397 +111
280 Rem 130 gr BTSP 3167 +33
7 mm WSM 110 gr HP 3588 +163
7 mm WSM 130 gr BTSP 3356 +126
7 mm WSM 145 gr BTSP 3166 +87
30-06 150 gr BTSP 3006 +159
30-06 165 gr BTSP 2874 +71
300 WSM 150 gr BTSP 3343 +74
300 WSM 165 gr BTSP 3217 +50
300 WSM 180 gr BTSP 3082 +104
300 Win Mag 150 gr BTSP 3333 +32
325 WSM 150 gr Semi-SP 3348 +45
325 WSM 170 gr Semi-SP 3131 +57
325 WSM 200 gr SP 2897 +60





Reloder® 17 was created with new technology to provide velocity greater than the competition in the most popular standard rifle calibers and the new short magnums. Following are recipes developed in our Ballistics Laboratory (all loads used Speer bullets and list the correct Overall Length- DO NOT SEAT THE BULLETS TO A LESS OVERALL LENGTH). These recipes are maximum loads and shall not be exceeded.

LOAD DATA RECIPES FOR RELODER® 17

Caliber Bullet Case Primer COAL Chg Wgt Velocity
223 WSM 55 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.210 46.6 3865
243 Win 80 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.615 44.0 3362
243 Win 85 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.625 43.7 3316
243 Win 100 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.625 40.8 3044
243 WSM 70 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.185 49.0C 3745
243 WSM 80 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.255 44.5 3512
243 WSM 85 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.255 45.5 3452
243 WSM 100 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.290 41.0 3128
6mm Rem 70 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.775 48.5C 3682
6mm Rem 80 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.775 46.7 3500
6mm Rem 85 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.775 46.0 3441
6mm Rem 100 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 44.0 3163
25-06 87 gr SP Fed Fed 210 3.115 54.5 3547
25-06 120 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 48.5 3046
6.5x55(mil) 90 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.850 48.5 3223
6.5x55(mil) 120 gr SP Fed Fed 210 3.000 41.5 2741
260 Rem 120 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.720 44.0 2912
260 Rem 140 gr SP Fed Fed 210 2.745 41.0 2645
270 WSM 100 gr HP Fed Fed 215 2.730 67.5 3668
270 WSM 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.700 62.0 3258
270 WSM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.700 60.0 3041
270 Win 100 gr HP Fed Fed 210 3.100 59.0 3554
270 Win 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 54.0 3136
270 Win 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 51.5 2921
280 Rem 110 gr HP Fed Fed 210 3.200 59.5 3397
280 Rem 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.205 56.0 3167
280 Rem 145 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.180 53.0 2968
280 Rem 160 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.200 51.5 2825
280 Rem 175 gr GS Fed Fed 210 3.265 50.5 2674
7 WSM 110 gr HP Win Fed 215 2.770 69.5 3588
7 WSM 130 gr BTSP Win Fed 215 2.775 66.5 3356
7 WSM 145 gr BTSP Win Fed 215 2.760 63.5 3166
7 WSM 160 gr BTSP Win Fed 215 2.820 60.0 2964
7 mm-08 110 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.760 50.5C 3169
7 mm-08 115 gr HP Fed Fed 210 2.655 49.5C 3107
7 mm-08 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.730 48.5C 3007
7 mm-08 145 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.730 46.0 2819
7 mm-08 160 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 44.0 2669
7 mm-08 175 gr GS Fed Fed 210 2.745 44.0 2574
7 mm RM 110 gr HP Fed Fed 215 3.200 68.0 3535
7mm RM 130 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.200 63.5 3255
7 mm RM 145 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.210 61.8 3113
7mm RM 160 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.210 59.0 2931
7 mm RM 175 gr GS Fed Fed 215 3.215 67.0 2774
7mm RM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.700 50.0C 2763
308 Win 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 50.0C 2739
308 Win 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 2.800 48.7C 2641
30-06 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.250 58.0 3006
30-06 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.250 56.5 2874
30-06 168 gr BTHP Fed Fed 210 3.295 56.0 2850
30-06 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 210 3.250 54.5 2762
30-06 200 gr SP Fed Fed 210 3.250 51.0 2552
300 WSM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.810 69.3 3343
300 WSM 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.810 68.0 3217
300 WSM 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 2.800 66.0 3082
300 WM 150 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.330 74.0 3333
300 WM 165 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.340 72.5 3202
300 WM 180 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.340 70.5 3074
325 WSM 150 gr S-SP Win Fed 215 2.850 71.5 3348
325 WSM 170 gr S-SP Win Fed 215 2.790 65.0 3131
325 WSM 200 gr SP Win Fed 215 2.840 65.0 2897
338 WM 200 gr SP Fed Fed 215 3.300 71.0 3002
338 WM 225 gr BTSP Fed Fed 215 3.340 67.5 2831
338 WM 250 gr GS Fed Fed 215 3.300 66.0 2664

 

[Missouri]

If you were loading for your 300 Win Mag Randy I could help ya..Haven't loaded for the short mags..Still lovin my belted magnums...Do you ever use your 300 Win mag anymore?

Mike,
I shot the barrel out of the 300Win so I rebarrel to 358STA :twisted: I have now a set of 300Win dies that are not getting used thinken I may need to get new 300 so I can use my dies agen.......

 

[Big Squeeze]

Another powder to try for your 300 WSM, which I will try in mine whenever it gets distributed, is the new Rel #17!!

According to Alliant, this new powder which was designed specifically for the WSM`s, gave the best velocity (a 104 fps increase) and the better accuracy in the 300 WSM vs all other powders in the Speer manual which are listed.

See the press release on accurateshooter.com dated 2/12, 13th or on the 14th.

Big Squeeze

Can you provide us with the link?

JD338

......JD....For the direct link to the Rel#17 bulletin, try this which was in my address window.

http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/02/12

In there is also a link you can go to and access their reloading data for the 300 WSM using the Rel #17.

For the 300 WSM, a max. load of 66 gr. Rel #17 w/the 180 grainer gave 3087 fps. An increase of 104 fps over the nearest competitive powder listed in the Speer manual. Very impressive! Other cartridges also had some good velocity increases.

 

[Big Squeeze]

Another powder to try for your 300 WSM, which I will try in mine whenever it gets distributed, is the new Rel #17!!

According to Alliant, this new powder which was designed specifically for the WSM`s, gave the best velocity (a 104 fps increase) and the better accuracy in the 300 WSM vs all other powders in the Speer manual which are listed.

See the press release on accurateshooter.com dated 2/12, 13th or on the 14th.

Big Squeeze

Can you provide us with the link?

JD338

......JD....For the direct link to the Rel#17 bulletin, try this which was in my address window.

http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/02/12

In there is also a link you can go to and access their reloading data for the 300 WSM using the Rel #17.

For the 300 WSM, a max. load of 66 gr. Rel #17 w/the 180 grainer gave 3087 fps. An increase of 104 fps over the nearest competitive powder listed in the Speer manual. Very impressive! Other cartridges also had some good velocity increases.

....................Correction!...................3082 fps.

 

[7 STW]

If you were loading for your 300 Win Mag Randy I could help ya..Haven't loaded for the short mags..Still lovin my belted magnums...Do you ever use your 300 Win mag anymore?

Mike,
I shot the barrel out of the 300Win so I rebarrel to 358STA :twisted: I have now a set of 300Win dies that are not getting used thinken I may need to get new 300 so I can use my dies agen.......

10-4..Sure is awesome cartridge..

 

[Missouri]

After see what the 150gr E-Tips did for you moose hunting. Its got me fired up and ready to run some in my 300wsm........

Hope Nosler will make some 250gr 35cal E-Tips soon......

 

[7 STW]

That 150gr E Tip in 30 cal is all a guy needs with the way it works..Gonna use that same load and bullet for this spring grizzly hunt..That right there tells the confidence I have in the E Tip bullet...

 

[Missouri]

Do you think that the 300Win with 150gr E-Tip did a better job moose hunting than your 7mm STW with 150gr NP?