308 winchester with 125 grain accubonds?

[andrewctillman]

Has anyone used this on coyotes or deer?

Can you really use that much W748 (from nosler manual)?

 

[1Shot]

I have not used the 125 AB but have for years used the 125 BT for white tail deer and it is a REAL KILLER 3000 fps and below impact velocity. I use 46 grs IMR 4895 in my308 Win.
The only 125 ABs I have seen was in a small pawn/gun shop in Barbersville WV and they wanted $45.oo plus tax for a box of 50 so I decided that I did not what to try them just yet if you know what I mean.

 

[Guy Miner]

The 125 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip at .308 velocity (3,000 - 3,100 fps) is a proven deer killer!

I've not yet tried the AccuBond version.

 

[D21ALASKA]

They're in stock at Midway. I just picked up a bunch for my '06, can't wait to try them out. They should be a deer/caribou/a lot of other things slayer.

 

[RememberBaker]

I bought 2 bags of them at SPS a week or so ago and am looking forward to trying them in both a .308 Win and 30-06 Spring. I'll bet they show up again soon at SPS.

 

[wildman]

Has anyone shoot any deer with the accubonds, I have used the 125 BT's for several years and don't have anything bad to say about them .Can anyone say they penetrate better than a BT or more accurate than a BT? Or does it come down to where you prefer a white tip or a green tip ? :wink:

 

[Rol_P]

Sorry that I do not have the 308 experience, but I expect my TC Encore in .260 Rem. with 120 grain Accubonds is quite similar and very deadly on NY Whitetails.
I have not tried the ballistic tips in the .260 so can not offer a comparison.

 

[AzDak42]

I've reloaded a few batches of the 125g BT in my 300 BLK. Shoots extremely well, but can't comment on game performance, as all I've shot is paper.

 

[SJB358]

I would love to give the 125 AB a run in a 308.. Probably be real nice on WT's. Great penetration along with violent expansion. Plus, recoil should be nil, along with very good trajectory for normal hunting ranges..

I had excellent results with the 125 Sierra PH, I never got to try the 125 BT, but the 125 AB would be slick on heavier deer or off angle shots as well..

 

[wildman]

You folks that have shot alot of these accubonds are these bullets any better at killing deer than the BT's? I'm asking this because in my mind there is no better bullet made for killing deer than the BT's but I have no experience with the accubonds....

 

[DrMike]

You folks that have shot alot of these accubonds are these bullets any better at killing deer than the BT's? I'm asking this because in my mind there is no better bullet made for killing deer than the BT's but I have no experience with the accubonds....

Not better, just equips you for the big things that you might encounter. In that respect, it is fair to say that the AccuBond is more of a good thing.

 

[wildman]

So in your opinion Dr.Mike your saying the AccuBond is a better bullet for anchoring game than the BT.

 

[Ridgerunner665]

My opinion is that the AB is basically just a bonded BT...The AB is probably better for larger game (elk, moose, etc.)...but for whitetails and mulies...there is no usable difference between the AB and the BT.

 

[DrMike]

My opinion is that the AB is basically just a bonded BT...The AB is probably better for larger game (elk, moose, etc.)...but for whitetails and mulies...there is no usable difference between the AB and the BT.

Spot on. For deer/caribou, the AB gives you no particular advantage over the BT. At velocities above ~3000 fps or when asking the bullet to smash through dense bone, the AB has the advantage.

 

[1Shot]

"Spot on. For deer/caribou, the AB gives you no particular advantage over the BT. At velocities above ~3000 fps or when asking the bullet to smash through dense bone, the AB has the advantage."

That is just about word for word what I was going to say. I have been using the 130 gr AB in my 264 Win mag for deer because it starts them out at 3350 fps and I get shots from practically in my lap to waaaaaaaay out there. It works perfectly. I would be afraid to use a ballistic tip or any plain cup and core bullet under the conditions I encounter with this rifle. Keep the ballistic tips under 3000 fps impact velocity and they are real deer killers. If you push them much over 3000 fps impact they really come apart especially if you hit bone. I prefer impact velocity under 2900 fps myself.

 

[Wincheringen]

Has anyone used this on coyotes or deer?

Can you really use that much W748 (from nosler manual)?

I haven't used that bullet, but on your second question, you'll have to measure your case capacity and see how far W748 comes up the neck. Ball powders do not compress easily, uniformly, or very well at all and you may be able to force the bullet in on a max charge, but eventually it will push back out, especially if your neck tension is on the low side. Extruded powders on the other hand do compress well and in my experience the best powder charge often comes up right below the case neck and just gives a little bit of compression. Varying the seating depth to get to this is fine, ideally you should go for approximately one caliber depth in the case neck.

 

[andrewctillman]

I was actually going to use this as a "barrier blind" self defense round and for the occasional coyote or deer. (I have land owner preference tags).

I use an Accuracy International magazine on a Remington 40X. So I am limited in seating depth. What would you all recommend given a 2.80 inch limit OCL?