.338 Edge Load Data

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Oct 17, 2011
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Hey fella's,

I'm looking for some load data on the .338 Edge with the 300 grain AccuBond and 300 Grain Berger Hybrid. I'm focusing on H1000 and Retumbo from past experience, anyone have any suggestions.

Thanks in advance!
 
I've shot the 300 grain SMK running Shawn Carlock's 91 of H1000 with it. The bearing surface on the AccuBond is quite a bit larger though, I figure I'll drop its charge a few grains lower and work up. I'll start testing these bullets soon and keep you updated on what works.
 
The bearing surface is definitely longer. Dropping the load some would be a good idea to start. I shot some in my .338 Baer and kind of guessed on the loads based on .340 Weatherby data. They were warm but my throat is rather short (set up for 250's) so the bullets had to be seated way deep. My gun didn't like them very well and it loves everything 250grs and lighter that I've shot through it (it shoots most everything in the .2's and .3's). I might try some in my Edge when I get a chance to finish breaking it in. I only have 7 rounds through it. Having a 1 year old kid around and another on the way reduces the daddy play time a lot.
 
What powder are you thinking of using? I can give you some QL projections for the 300 grain Berger. For instance:

Cartridge : .338 Edge
Bullet : .338, 300, Berger Hybrid #33401
Useable Case Capaci: 90.126 grain H2O = 5.852 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms


-20.0 87 72.40 2169 3135 30709 9582 98.3 1.893
-18.0 89 74.21 2225 3298 32897 9797 99.0 1.843
-16.0 91 76.02 2281 3465 35244 9985 99.5 1.793
-14.0 93 77.83 2336 3635 37770 10142 99.9 1.740
-12.0 95 79.64 2390 3806 40490 10268 100.0 1.683
-10.0 98 81.45 2444 3980 43427 10373 100.0 1.629
-08.0 100 83.26 2498 4156 46595 10473 100.0 1.576
-06.0 102 85.07 2551 4334 50016 10570 100.0 1.526
-04.0 104 86.88 2603 4513 53719 10664 100.0 1.477
-02.0 106 88.69 2655 4695 57732 10753 100.0 1.431 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 90.50 2706 4879 62082 10839 100.0 1.386 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 92.31 2757 5065 66811 10920 100.0 1.343 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 94.12 2808 5254 71957 10996 100.0 1.301 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 95.93 2859 5446 77571 11068 100.0 1.261 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 117 97.74 2910 5641 83702 11135 100.0 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 119 99.55 2961 5839 90419 11196 100.0 1.184 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 90.50 2802 5231 77720 10410 100.0 1.279 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 90.50 2556 4354 49048 11457 99.9 1.529

Cartridge : .338 Edge
Bullet : .338, 300, Berger Hybrid #33401
Useable Case Capaci: 90.126 grain H2O = 5.852 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.

Matching Maximum Pressure: 55839 psi, or 385 MPa

or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

110 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218 105.7 93.6 6.06 2688 98.9 55840 12715 1.432 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 101.7 89.0 5.77 2669 98.6 55840 12371 1.458 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 108.5 97.5 6.32 2665 98.4 55840 12600 1.483 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870 108.1 92.7 6.01 2653 99.5 55840 11948 1.462 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.2 87.9 5.69 2631 100.0 55840 10713 1.452 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 95.5 84.9 5.50 2602 100.0 55840 10758 1.462 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 95.8 85.0 5.51 2602 100.0 55840 10750 1.462 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 95.6 84.8 5.50 2600 100.0 55840 10721 1.462 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 100.3 83.4 5.40 2600 100.0 55840 10901 1.480 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 92.9 82.1 5.32 2592 99.4 55840 11119 1.477 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 92.4 78.4 5.08 2592 99.9 55840 10912 1.470 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 90.7 78.6 5.09 2583 100.0 55840 10437 1.479 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 96.7 78.1 5.06 2582 100.0 55840 10535 1.459 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 91.5 78.1 5.06 2582 100.0 55840 10535 1.459 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 98.1 81.0 5.25 2582 100.0 55840 10068 1.468 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 96.8 83.5 5.41 2580 100.0 55840 10382 1.450 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 101.8 83.6 5.42 2578 100.0 55840 10354 1.451 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869 109.8 97.2 6.30 2576 93.8 55840 11489 1.464 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 104.3 92.3 5.98 2575 93.8 55840 11384 1.454 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG 109.9 92.7 6.00 2573 90.1 55840 11646 1.463 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 92.6 77.8 5.04 2573 100.0 55840 10486 1.456 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 92.6 77.8 5.04 2565 100.0 55840 10360 1.478 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 92.6 77.8 5.04 2565 100.0 55840 10360 1.478 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 92.6 77.8 5.04 2565 100.0 55840 10360 1.478 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 95.1 78.2 5.07 2565 100.0 55840 10386 1.478 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 96.2 81.5 5.28 2554 99.3 55840 10548 1.457 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 94.0 77.5 5.02 2544 99.8 55840 10258 1.477 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 93.4 6.05 2524 97.1 52060 11053 1.521
Vihtavuori N170 104.4 85.8 5.56 2523 97.2 55840 10568 1.490 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 90.5 75.2 4.87 2522 100.0 55840 9816 1.475 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 95.1 76.8 4.97 2517 99.7 55840 9948 1.470 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC 91.4 76.8 4.97 2517 99.7 55840 9948 1.470 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 98.3 6.37 2514 94.8 49864 11419 1.542
Lovex D100 101.9 91.1 5.90 2508 94.3 55840 10486 1.477 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 90.0 75.6 4.90 2492 100.0 55840 9378 1.499 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 95.1 78.2 5.06 2484 100.0 55840 9220 1.488 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 95.2 75.8 4.91 2476 99.9 55840 9355 1.479 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 98.3 77.2 5.00 2476 100.0 55840 9088 1.519 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 93.4 6.05 2473 95.3 48603 10971 1.565
Accurate 8700 110.0 93.6 6.06 2463 96.2 47025 10913 1.572
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 90.4 70.2 4.55 2438 100.0 55840 8310 1.499 ! Near Maximum !
 
Idaho,

I imagine little ones would do that haha

DrMike,

I'd appreciate it if you could run that QL for me!! That would be great! I'm mainly looking at H1000 and Retumbo, I have a lot and it's shot well in the past. I'll probably seat them out to 3.650-3.750", (big gap I know, I haven't measured my throat with these bullets yet) and I've got a 30" barrel.

Thanks for your help fella's!
 
Cartridge : .338 Edge
Bullet : .338, 300, Berger Hybrid G7 #33401
Useable Case Capaci: 90.127 grain H2O = 5.852 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 30.0 inch = 762.0 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 87 72.40 2257 3393 30707 8162 99.3 2.043
-18.0 89 74.21 2312 3562 32889 8309 99.7 1.989
-16.0 91 76.02 2367 3734 35242 8431 100.0 1.937
-14.0 93 77.83 2422 3907 37769 8527 100.0 1.880
-12.0 95 79.64 2476 4083 40488 8614 100.0 1.820
-10.0 98 81.45 2529 4259 43424 8698 100.0 1.763
-08.0 100 83.26 2581 4438 46592 8780 100.0 1.708
-06.0 102 85.07 2633 4618 50013 8858 100.0 1.655
-04.0 104 86.88 2684 4800 53716 8934 100.0 1.603
-02.0 106 88.69 2735 4984 57726 9006 100.0 1.555 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 90.50 2786 5170 62079 9075 100.0 1.507 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 92.31 2836 5359 66808 9140 100.0 1.462 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 94.12 2886 5550 71953 9201 100.0 1.418 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 95.93 2936 5743 77564 9258 100.0 1.375 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 117 97.74 2986 5940 83696 9311 100.0 1.335 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 119 99.55 3036 6139 90412 9359 100.0 1.295 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 90.50 2876 5510 77715 8715 100.0 1.396 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 90.50 2645 4662 49044 9611 100.0 1.657


Cartridge : .338 Edge
Bullet : .338, 300, Berger Hybrid G7 #33401
Useable Case Capaci: 90.127 grain H2O = 5.852 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 30.0 inch = 762.0 mm
Powder : Hodgdon H1000

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 84 69.20 2211 3257 31385 7637 96.7 2.031
-18.0 86 70.93 2266 3420 33591 7824 97.6 1.977
-16.0 88 72.66 2320 3586 35960 7995 98.3 1.925
-14.0 91 74.39 2375 3756 38506 8149 98.9 1.865
-12.0 93 76.12 2429 3929 41245 8285 99.4 1.807
-10.0 95 77.85 2482 4104 44193 8401 99.7 1.751
-08.0 97 79.58 2535 4282 47373 8498 99.9 1.697
-06.0 99 81.31 2588 4462 50806 8575 100.0 1.645
-04.0 101 83.04 2640 4643 54513 8639 100.0 1.595 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 103 84.77 2692 4827 58526 8699 100.0 1.546 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 86.50 2743 5013 62877 8757 100.0 1.499 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 107 88.23 2794 5200 67598 8811 100.0 1.454 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 109 89.96 2845 5391 72736 8861 100.0 1.411 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 112 91.69 2895 5583 78335 8907 100.0 1.369 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 114 93.42 2945 5779 84449 8949 100.0 1.329 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 116 95.15 2996 5977 91144 8986 100.0 1.290 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 86.50 2835 5356 77008 8379 100.0 1.395 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 86.50 2599 4499 50624 9166 98.9 1.639
 
The Edge has the same case capacity as the 338 Lapua. I use 93 grains of Retumbo for my Ackley and it propel the 300 grain SMK at around 2850 fps. My barrel has 9.3 twist.
 
I would give Retumbo a try. I am getting 2742 fps with the 300 gr AB from my 338 RUM. Rifle is a stock M700 LSS.

JD338
 
Thanks guys!

Should get out this weekend or next to test some loads. Will keep you posted.
 
JD338":3seh8l74 said:
I would give Retumbo a try. I am getting 2742 fps with the 300 gr AB from my 338 RUM. Rifle is a stock M700 LSS.

JD338
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Jim, this QL is pretty cool. It has RL33 in it, so I ran it just to see how it stacks up to Retumbo.. Looks pretty good with just the computed ballistics.. Less pressure as well. I think it'll be a winner when it hits the shelves..

Cartridge : .338 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet : .338, 300, Nosler AccuBond 54851
Useable Case Capaci: 89.671 grain H2O = 5.822 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder 33

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 84 76.00 2119 2992 29943 9717 90.4 1.944
-18.0 86 77.90 2179 3164 32215 10044 91.9 1.889
-16.0 88 79.80 2240 3341 34682 10355 93.4 1.835
-14.0 90 81.70 2300 3525 37361 10649 94.6 1.781
-12.0 92 83.60 2361 3713 40276 10922 95.8 1.718
-10.0 94 85.50 2422 3907 43449 11173 96.8 1.658
-08.0 96 87.40 2483 4107 46913 11399 97.7 1.600
-06.0 98 89.30 2544 4311 50694 11600 98.5 1.544
-04.0 100 91.20 2605 4519 54834 11773 99.1 1.491 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 102 93.10 2665 4732 59372 11917 99.5 1.439 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 105 95.00 2726 4950 64313 12028 99.8 1.389 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 107 96.90 2786 5171 69706 12108 100.0 1.341 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 109 98.80 2846 5395 75612 12156 100.0 1.294 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 111 100.70 2905 5623 82100 12196 100.0 1.250 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 113 102.60 2965 5855 89242 12229 100.0 1.206 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 115 104.50 3024 6091 97129 12255 100.0 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 105 95.00 2857 5438 80954 11454 100.0 1.270 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 105 95.00 2530 4265 49459 12000 95.0 1.549


Cartridge : .338 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet : .338, 300, Nosler AccuBond 54851
Useable Case Capaci: 89.671 grain H2O = 5.822 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 87 72.00 2154 3091 31156 9371 98.7 1.903
-18.0 89 73.80 2209 3251 33389 9565 99.3 1.850
-16.0 91 75.60 2263 3413 35798 9730 99.7 1.798
-14.0 93 77.40 2317 3577 38389 9865 100.0 1.744
-12.0 95 79.20 2371 3743 41183 9970 100.0 1.687
-10.0 97 81.00 2423 3911 44199 10067 100.0 1.633
-08.0 100 82.80 2475 4080 47455 10160 100.0 1.580
-06.0 102 84.60 2526 4251 50975 10250 100.0 1.530
-04.0 104 86.40 2577 4424 54788 10336 100.0 1.482 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 106 88.20 2627 4599 58920 10419 100.0 1.435 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 90.00 2677 4775 63403 10497 100.0 1.390 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 110 91.80 2727 4954 68283 10571 100.0 1.347 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 93.60 2776 5135 73593 10641 100.0 1.305 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 95.40 2826 5319 79390 10707 100.0 1.265 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 117 97.20 2875 5506 85718 10767 100.0 1.226 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 119 99.00 2924 5695 92662 10822 100.0 1.189 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 90.00 2769 5107 79331 10091 100.0 1.284 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 90.00 2535 4280 50018 11098 100.0 1.533
 
Scotty,

Thanks for running quick load buddy.
I think RL 33 is going to be a good powder. We just have to wait for the DOT approval.

JD338
 
Yeah, I think it looks pretty good in a few of my cartridges as well. I would be good with giving it a try!
 
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