35 Whelen RL15 and 250gr PT

SJB358

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I took the same loads out today in order to verify the 35 Whelen with the 250gr PT's. My load is 60gr's of RL15, CCI250's and RP cases. Of course the excellent 250gr PT is stuffed on top. This load is very consistent and seemed to shoot pretty well. Again, it was hot, with a heat index of 105, so with the sweat rolling over my eyes, it made precision shooting a little tough. Anyhow, I ran three of them over the chrono in order to verify the speed and really, I wanted to see if I had any signs of sticky extraction of marks on the case.

The first three went 2676, 2676 and 2671. They fed and extracted smooth as silk! I was very elated. Accuracy was also pretty decent.

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I ran another three across and came up with this

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Well, since they seemed to be clicking so well, I decided to back it up some and see how they did at 250 yards. I figured if they shot well back there, they would be a proven load and I could be done messing with this rifle.

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Maybe not the tightest 250 yard group I've ever fired, but way more than enough for any deer or elk I would be shooting. Overall, I am very pleased with the performance the Whelen is putting down, I would caution anybody to work up from 54gr's cautiously. Primer pockets are tight and there are no marks or primer flattening at all, but I know it is at the max limit I would want to push them.

It almost makes 338WM scared I am running so close to it. Granted the 338 has a better BC/SD'ed bullet, but for 400 yard shooting, I won't ever notice the difference. I am thinking the Whelen will get another shot at elk this Fall. I plan on pushing it out to 400 to determine actual drops and such, but I don't see much problem there on elk or heck, even deer sized game.

I was also able to pull a 250gr PT out of an oak stump used for my backstop on the 250 yard target. It was a solid 10-12" oak block, dry and tough. This bullet was just peeking out of the back of the block. With a little finagling, my pocket knife was able to free it. Here are a couple pictures of it.

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Wow, that is one tough bullet! I haven't weighed it, but man, that is screaming for a shot at a moose or something of that size! After seeing that long shank for penetration and modestly sized mushroom, I wouldn't hesitate to take this rifle anywhere. Scotty
 
It does look as if you are good to go with that load. I do enjoy the pictures of recovered bullets.
 
Thank you Mike. The load seems to work. I will begin stretching it out further soon. Still wanna run them into some water jugs, but I imagine that oak block has stressed that bullet much more than any water could! Scotty
 
OK, now you really have me itching to start working with RL15 in my Whelen! Yours is a 24" CDL, right? I think I might be about 50-75fps short of you in my 22" Classic.
 
Scotty,
That's mighty fine results with the Whelen. It's begging for an appointment with an Elk!!!!

Don
 
BK":moi7t5dq said:
OK, now you really have me itching to start working with RL15 in my Whelen! Yours is a 24" CDL, right? I think I might be about 50-75fps short of you in my 22" Classic.

BK, I don't think you could go wrong with RL15 in the 35 Whelen. This is by far my favorite load I have made up for just about any rifle. It is accurate, fast and with the PT, it is ready for just about anything.

Don, I think you are right. I do believe the 35 Whelen will be headed West this year. I really think it would be an awesome elk/moose thumper. This rifle has already taken a few WT deer, one elk, and a black bear. It really has an excellent track record. I think running the Nosler Pt is only going to make it that much better. Running over the ballistics, it is plenty for elk out to 400 yards, which for me, is about my limit for the most part. The CDL handles really well, and that is tough to say being a Winchester man! Scotty
 
Scotty -
really nice results with the Whelen!! That is more than minute of elk. I like seeing the bullets as well. Red oak is some really dense material (especially seasoned), so there isn't much on this planet that that bullet wouldn't penetrate through :shock:.

It is always fun to get a new rifle bloody, but with the history your Whelen has and how well it is shooting, it will be hard to leave it at home this fall.
 
Wow, that is quality stuff. Those 250's should be a real hammer. I'd be packing that sucker all fall.
 
It is going to get a run this Fall Heath. Trust me. I neglected it last year. This year is the Whelen year. I always get into some kind of luck with it. Scotty
 
Scotty,

Excellent results! Move your windage 2 clicks West and you are there. Yes, the 358 cal 250 gr PT penetrates deep. Put that bullet into the vitals of an elk out to 400 yds and you can get your knife out. :wink:

JD338
 
257 Ackley":6xj6d0h7 said:
Scotty -
really nice results with the Whelen!! That is more than minute of elk. I like seeing the bullets as well. Red oak is some really dense material (especially seasoned), so there isn't much on this planet that that bullet wouldn't penetrate through :shock:.

It is always fun to get a new rifle bloody, but with the history your Whelen has and how well it is shooting, it will be hard to leave it at home this fall.

Jim/Joel this rifle NEEDS to moose hunt! I'm figuring we need to find a proper place to get them out to hunt! Scotty
 
beretzs":2dv7g07k said:
257 Ackley":2dv7g07k said:
Scotty -
really nice results with the Whelen!! That is more than minute of elk. I like seeing the bullets as well. Red oak is some really dense material (especially seasoned), so there isn't much on this planet that that bullet wouldn't penetrate through :shock:.

It is always fun to get a new rifle bloody, but with the history your Whelen has and how well it is shooting, it will be hard to leave it at home this fall.

Jim/Joel this rifle NEEDS to moose hunt! I'm figuring we need to find a proper place to get them out to hunt! Scotty

Scotty,

That load is up to the task to take a moose!

JD338
 
That 250 yd. group looks dang good Scotty,,,,what looks to be just a hair over 1 moa.
Given a day when you might not be fighting heat, wouldn't suprise me that you cut some off that group. Specially looking at your speed variation. Which with R15, don't suprise me either!
 
beretzs":14tzejus said:
257 Ackley":14tzejus said:
Scotty -
really nice results with the Whelen!! That is more than minute of elk. I like seeing the bullets as well. Red oak is some really dense material (especially seasoned), so there isn't much on this planet that that bullet wouldn't penetrate through :shock:.

It is always fun to get a new rifle bloody, but with the history your Whelen has and how well it is shooting, it will be hard to leave it at home this fall.

Jim/Joel this rifle NEEDS to moose hunt! I'm figuring we need to find a proper place to get them out to hunt! Scotty

Lets talk to Mike and see if he will guide us!! What do you say Mike?
 
onesonek":2wsy63ro said:
That 250 yd. group looks dang good Scotty,,,,what looks to be just a hair over 1 moa.
Given a day when you might not be fighting heat, wouldn't suprise me that you cut some off that group. Specially looking at your speed variation. Which with R15, don't suprise me either!

Thanks buddy. I think it will do better also, I was pretty happy with how it was doing overall. That heat was crazy yesterday. Today is 10 degrees cooler with a nice breeze.... Scotty
 
Yeah, by the time I was done shooting around 1300L it was HOT and the sun was beating down heavily on the range. Made for some interesting shooting. It was bearable, but just not much fun in that kind of heat. Scotty
 
Scotty

I think that one is ready to hunt, now the 300 or the 338? Great groups, given the weather and humidity. We are "forecasted" to hit 70 here for the weekend, maybe the ice caps will melt. Wind and wind and wind the last few days no shooting.
 
Well I was just thinking,,,, when you only have 5 fps spread, I don't know that I would mess with that load much. Without the heat mirage on that 250 yd group, I wouldn't again be suprised, on a better day that group being half that. If it don't, then I would say it's either the rifle, or the shooter, not the load. Shooting in those conditions is not easy, if not harder than when it's very cold in my mind. I'd say you got a winner regardless!!!!!
 
Scotty,
Those are the exact velocities I get using the 225 AB. Your load leads me to believe I could get more out of mine! I might have to give that a try. :mrgreen:

Don
 
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