This stuff (H870) is what I used for many years in the 7MM RM with 175 grainers. Lots of elk bit the dust with both 160 and 175 loads. Mine bullets were the old dual core Speer Grand Slams at 80 gr for the 160 and 78 for the 175's. I still have a couple of jugs of the 870, marked at $4.50 a lb if my memory serves me right. Nobody had chronograghs in those days, but I did chrono the 175 load when I got my first Oehler 35P at 2950 fps. Muzzle blast from this load also burnt some paint off the hood of my pickup and cracked a windshield!