8mm Rem Mag & Range Report - part two

[OU812]

Mike great shooting and as always thanks for the great report. I could not get the accubonds to shooting in my 8mm either but in all fairness I have not tried to the extent you have. With the way that 220 is shooting and at those speeds how does one no be pleased, looks like a great stopping point with the 220's.


Bill

 

[bullet]

Mike great shooting and as always thanks for the great report. I could not get the accubonds to shooting in my 8mm either but in all fairness I have not tried to the extent you have. With the way that 220 is shooting and at those speeds how does one no be pleased, looks like a great stopping point with the 220's.


Bill

Yes it is a stopping point for the 220gr bullets except for two five shot groups of this specific load for accuracy verification so I can know for sure where to move my cross hairs for a 200yd zero for my LR Duplex scope. To be fair to the AccuBond I need to extend my over all length to just off the lands and give it one more whirl to satisfy myself.

I have a feeling with this rifle that I will be able to drive a 250gr bullet at 2800fps or plus some. Looking forward to that. I have the Barnes Originals coming this week sometime but Hawk has to make me some and those will be a month away. I want to try both the Barnes and Hawk before I try the Woodleigh.

For a 200gr bullet my last resort will be a TSX and hope that I don't have to use one for accuracy. I still have a final test with the Accubonds and I have some Partitions coming also and if these fail I will use an A-Frame before I try the TSX.

 

[OU812]

I can tell you that in my 8mm the TSX bullets are SUPER accurate and IMO the easiest bullet to load with to get accuracy. I'm going to have to try the accubonds again to see if I can get anything to shake out.

What kind of groups are you getting with the accubonds? I tried some quite a while back and it looked like a shotgun pattern.


Bill

 

[bullet]

I can tell you that in my 8mm the TSX bullets are SUPER accurate and IMO the easiest bullet to load with to get accuracy. I'm going to have to try the accubonds again to see if I can get anything to shake out.

What kind of groups are you getting with the accubonds? I tried some quite a while back and it looked like a shotgun pattern.


Bill

TSX are accurate bullets but I do not like their terminal results from my experience, I hope no one gets offended by my next statement, I DON'T LIKE BARNES X, TSX OR TTSX. It will truly be the last 200gr bullet I try, but if I don't get accuracy with a 200gr bullet I will try the TSX.

The Accubonds five shot groups were like buck shot at 50yds. The only thing I did not try was putting them up all most on the lands but that I will try to be able to say I gave them a chance in my my rifle.

 

[OU812]

I'm sure you will get the accuracy you want from another 200 gr bullet and won't need the TSX. I'll bet the Partition gets it done for ya.

Bill

 

[bullet]

I'm sure you will get the accuracy you want from another 200 gr bullet and won't need the TSX. I'll bet the Partition gets it done for ya.

Bill

We will see, something will even if it ends up being a TSX :roll: :mrgreen:

 

[OU812]

I'm sure you will get the accuracy you want from another 200 gr bullet and won't need the TSX. I'll bet the Partition gets it done for ya.

Bill

We will see, something will even if it ends up being a TSX :roll: :mrgreen:

Could go the other way around and get the TSX out of the way with accuracy then go after the other bullets? Just a thought.


Bill

 

[bullet]

I'm sure you will get the accuracy you want from another 200 gr bullet and won't need the TSX. I'll bet the Partition gets it done for ya.

Bill

We will see, something will even if it ends up being a TSX :roll: :mrgreen:

Could go the other way around and get the TSX out of the way with accuracy then go after the other bullets? Just a thought.


Bill

AIN'T HAPPENING :mrgreen: :mrgreen: 8)

 

[OU812]

Figured as much but had to ask. :wink:

 

[dchamp]

Good job Bullet, there is nothing quite as satisfying as a good day at the range and discovering such promise. :?: Is that a PVM chrono that you're using,I have a damaged one and am waiting for replacement parts, but I like them. Also, did you get any pressure signs with your load and finally does anybody know if Nosler ever finalized the BC for their 8mm 200gr AccuBond? It started out as .450, then they changed it to .397, not that it's a big deal but it's nice to know for planning purposes.

dchamp :grin:

 

[bullet]

dechamp, I decided to stop and not go on up to book max for my load because today was hot and humid. I think my load was close but ejection, primers and bases were looking good.

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[JD338]

Mike,

Nice work!
You have the big 8 singing. :wink:

JD338

 

[bullet]

Yeah JD, ain't it fun and I do love to do it with out of the box rifles that have had no work or customizing done to them. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

 

[boomer68]

What was the velocity with RL25 and the 220gr Sierra? Looks like 7828 is showing promise.

 

[bullet]

What was the velocity with RL25 and the 220gr Sierra? Looks like 7828 is showing promise.

RL-25 was 3009 but neither the RL-25 nor IMR7828 were at book published max. The deviation of RL-25 was not as good as IMR7828 and the last five shot group of RL-25 was not as good as the five shot group of IMR7828 and add to that the fact that the RL-25 five shot group was fired from a fouled barrel and the IMR7828 was fired from a clean barrel. With the Sierra, I can run to either for the 220gr Sierra if the one I am using runs out, I always can use the other.

 

[boomer68]

What was the velocity with RL25 and the 220gr Sierra? Looks like 7828 is showing promise.

RL-25 was 3009 but neither the RL-25 nor IMR7828 were at book published max. The deviation of RL-25 was not as good as IMR7828 and the last five shot group of RL-25 was not as good as the five shot group of IMR7828 and add to that the fact that the RL-25 five shot group was fired from a fouled barrel and the IMR7828 was fired from a clean barrel. With the Sierra, I can run to either for the 220gr Sierra if the one I am using runs out, I always can use the other.

My load is 87grs of RL25 with the Sierra. I haven't chrono'ed it yet, so that is why I asked. I will have to give 7828 a try then. This has been a great thread, thanks for all the info!

Ian

 

[bullet]

What was the velocity with RL25 and the 220gr Sierra? Looks like 7828 is showing promise.

RL-25 was 3009 but neither the RL-25 nor IMR7828 were at book published max. The deviation of RL-25 was not as good as IMR7828 and the last five shot group of RL-25 was not as good as the five shot group of IMR7828 and add to that the fact that the RL-25 five shot group was fired from a fouled barrel and the IMR7828 was fired from a clean barrel. With the Sierra, I can run to either for the 220gr Sierra if the one I am using runs out, I always can use the other.

My load is 87grs of RL25 with the Sierra. I haven't chrono'ed it yet, so that is why I asked. I will have to give 7828 a try then. This has been a great thread, thanks for all the info!

Ian

Ian, if you are using 87grs of RL-25 believe Sierra and know that it is a max load, because they used a Rem 700 with a 24 inch barrel to develop their data, but we all need to remember that it was a max load for that specific rifle. With the mid 80 degree and humid conditions and being at only about 100ft above sea level I found 86grs to be right on the edge with my Rem 700 although in cool weather, I believe 87grs would work fine in my rifle.

What I find interesting and will know in the near future is that IMR7828 is predicted by Quick Load to push a 250gr bullet faster than RL-25. Of course, once again my rifle will in the end be the determining factor. I am also looking forward to using the 200gr Partition and seeing how my rifle responds to that bullet.

 

[OU812]

I've done some looking around and it seems the AccuBond for what ever reason does not fair well in the 8mm accuracy wise. The Partition seems to be a different story.


Bill

 

[bullet]

I hope that is the case, because the Partition would be awesome.

 

[FOTIS]

Mike I will swap you the PT's for the AB for my boy's 325 wsm