Accubond or Partition for elk

[crash0ride]

What do you guys prefer for elk ?

 

[OU812]

Either one will get the job done but I like the good old time tested Partition myself.


Bill

 

[DrMike]

I've used both and load both for elk in my various cartridges. You won't go wrong with either of these fine bullets.

 

[atmoshpere]

You won't go wrong with either of these fine bullets.

+1 I've only used accubonds on elk, but sure wouldn't hesitate to use a Partition. Whatever you can get to shoot better in your rifle would be my suggestion, given the two choices.

atm

 

[Greg Nolan]

I prefer the AccuBond but the Partition will do a fine job too.
Greg

 

[bullet]

Smaller calibers and lighter bullets I would go with the Partition and the Partition and AccuBond in the larger caliber cartridges. For instance, with the 7mm08 Sako custom I had I would use the AccuBond on deer and the Partition on larger game. Here is what a 140gr Partition will do out of a 7mm08 shot by a nine year old boy.

He killed a 63" bull moose with the 140gr Partition out of a 7mm08 and the moose fell where it was shot.

 

[JD338]

Both will do the job.

JD338

 

[bullet]

Both will do the job.

JD338

But that 140gr Partition went in one side of that bull's chest and out the other side and I don't think to many Accubonds out of a 7mm08 will do that. Anybody here had an AccuBond out of a 7mm08 exit from one side of a bull moose and out the other? I could be all wrong and if I am I would like to know. That would be cool if a 140gr AccuBond would do that.

 

[tecumseh]

I took a cow elk 3 years ago in Montana with a 180gr AccuBond and wouldn't hesitate you use it again! You can't go wrong with either bullet!

 

[FOTIS]

Both will work great! I never had an issue with either.

 

[bullet]

Yes, they might but I think his dad loaded the right bullet for that bull moose.

 

[CatskillCrawler]

But that 140gr Partition went in one side of that bull's chest and out the other side and I don't think to many Accubonds out of a 7mm08 will do that. Anybody here had an AccuBond out of a 7mm08 exit from one side of a bull moose and out the other? I could be all wrong and if I am I would like to know. That would be cool if a 140gr AccuBond would do that.

I have had 140gr NAB exit a moose from a .270 and a 7mm-08. The 7mm-08 went thru lower edge of near side shoulder, just below the spine, and the .270 was a rib shot. 7mm-08 distance was 110 yds and .270 was 35yds.

In my experience, there's no discernible difference between the NP and NAB as far as terminal effects and penetration.

 

[bullet]

But that 140gr Partition went in one side of that bull's chest and out the other side and I don't think to many Accubonds out of a 7mm08 will do that. Anybody here had an AccuBond out of a 7mm08 exit from one side of a bull moose and out the other? I could be all wrong and if I am I would like to know. That would be cool if a 140gr AccuBond would do that.

I have had 140gr NAB exit a moose from a .270 and a 7mm-08. The 7mm-08 went thru lower edge of near side shoulder, just below the spine, and the .270 was a rib shot. 7mm-08 distance was 110 yds and .270 was 35yds.

In my experience, there's no discernible difference between the NP and NAB as far as terminal effects and penetration.

Thank you, that put that to rest since I have only used a 7mm08 on deer, hogs, coyote and such. I do know that the Partition in my 30 calibers always have exited but have not had the AccuBond always exit although it was still a dramatic kill. I will take your word that the AccuBond did exit the moose. As others know I have used the AccuBond in my 358Win (the only load I use in it at the moment) and it is an outstanding bullet. All of that said, I will still choose the Partition over the AccuBond to remove all doubt when the animal is a big one and I end up using a 7mm08.

 

[Guy Miner]

Bullet - great photo of the little fellow and his big moose. Outstanding!

 

[Ridge_Runner]

my thoughts on this, the AccuBond and the Partition are equals in standard calibers, hoever the ballistic advantage goes to the AccuBond, in a magnum caliber they are also on equal footing unless, you have a high velocity impact on a heavy hard target (IE a bull moose or elk shoulder at 35 yards) Then is when the AccuBond shines, it may not exit, but it will get adequate penetration and hang togather.
I have read many reports from guys who develope cartridges of ungodly velocity, this is the partitions weak point, if the impact is violent enough to rupture the H-mantle of the Partition, penetration stops now, I know one smith (Kirby Allen) who had 120 gr partitions rupture in a gallon of water, at 500 yards shooting them from a 338 rum imp. necked to .257.
JMO
RR

 

[Woodycreek]

my thoughts on this, the AccuBond and the Partition are equals in standard calibers, hoever the ballistic advantage goes to the AccuBond, in a magnum caliber they are also on equal footing unless, you have a high velocity impact on a heavy hard target (IE a bull moose or elk shoulder at 35 yards) Then is when the AccuBond shines, it may not exit, but it will get adequate penetration and hang togather.
I have read many reports from guys who develope cartridges of ungodly velocity, this is the partitions weak point, if the impact is violent enough to rupture the H-mantle of the Partition, penetration stops now, I know one smith (Kirby Allen) who had 120 gr partitions rupture in a gallon of water, at 500 yards shooting them from a 338 rum imp. necked to .257.
JMO
RR

What was the muzzle velocity of that 25 caliber monster???

 

[bullet]

my thoughts on this, the AccuBond and the Partition are equals in standard calibers, hoever the ballistic advantage goes to the AccuBond, in a magnum caliber they are also on equal footing unless, you have a high velocity impact on a heavy hard target (IE a bull moose or elk shoulder at 35 yards) Then is when the AccuBond shines, it may not exit, but it will get adequate penetration and hang togather.
I have read many reports from guys who develope cartridges of ungodly velocity, this is the partitions weak point, if the impact is violent enough to rupture the H-mantle of the Partition, penetration stops now, I know one smith (Kirby Allen) who had 120 gr partitions rupture in a gallon of water, at 500 yards shooting them from a 338 rum imp. necked to .257.
JMO
RR

You know, I just don't buy into your theory even if that did happen to a Partition and my reasons are as follows. Not counting the game I have killed here and in Africa, I have done water test on partitions at 10yds and Accubonds at the same distance out of the same rifle (300Win mag and 300Wby) producing over 4,000 pounds of energy at 10yds and the Partition always out penetrated the Acuubond and was much better under the stress of those experiments than the AccuBond. In fact the Patitions never changed direction through the water jugs but he AccuBond did from time to time. The AccuBond is not a better bullet than the Partition on dangerous game and when in hunting situations considering dangerous or big game of any kind, I could care less about BC. I am sure glad I had a 180gr PT Partition in my 30-06 when hunting impala and I had to shoot that charging lion and hit it at 25yds. No way would I have wanted an AccuBond in my rifle at that moment. I am not saying the AccuBond would not have killed that lion, it might have done the job, but I knew the Partition would. And on top of all of this, I had a 165gr AccuBond out of a Ruger 300Win Mag, actually break in two parts on a 190 pound eight point whitetail on an angled shot and never exited. The deer died, but that is not the pint, the AccuBond is not a Partition.

 

[Guy Miner]

Meanwhile - back to elk... :grin: I've only taken one good bull, and that was with a long, heavy for caliber Partition - but Accubonds didn't exist then.

Yesterday while hunting elk & bear, I noticed my son was carrying 165 gr Partitions in the .30-06 and I had 115 gr Partitions in the .25-06 Remington. I would have been just as confident if we'd been carrying ammo loaded with Accubonds.

Regards, Guy

 

[bullet]

Yep, back to elk, and in my 358Win I would be using the AccuBond and in some tight canyons in Arizona on black bear, Did I say Accubonds??? yep sure did, oh, buy the way, I like them. :mrgreen:

 

[sask boy]

I have used the AB now for a number of years I have not seen a whole of difference between the AccuBond or the Partition. Other than at long distances I think the AB is a little more accurate being a BT.
I shot a 5 X 5 bull 3 years ago with my 270 win 130gr AB and hit it just under the spine and a little back and it went through the Elk didn't go down but the second shot was in the boiler room and that did not exit and found the bullet opposite shoulder still almost a 100grs if I remember right it was 97grs.
I think that both are excellent quality if they weren't why would the Partition be at the top of the heap for so many years :wink:

Blessings,
Dan