Availability Dictates What Powder.

[nosler06]

Well, thank you Osprey78 for spotting some powder at a local gun show. I managed to buy 2 1lb canisters of powder that have made my choice easier for me. I have a 1lb of IMR4895 and a 1lb of IMR8280 XBR. Now the fun will begin at the range again. I love it.

Is it possible to get someone to run a quickload for me. I can't find anything in my Nosler manuals.

.308 Winchester
IMR8208 XBR powder
Nosler 165gr Partitions
CCI200 primers.

I am very excited to try the IMR8208 XBR as I have read lots of good things about it.

Thanks

 

[gerry]

This can help you, IMR 8208 is an excellent powder.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .308 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler PART SP 16330
Useable Case Capaci: 48.677 grain H2O = 3.161 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : IMR 8208 XBR

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   78    35.20   2229    1820   33069   6627     93.8    1.400
-18.0   80    36.08   2279    1903   35162   6808     94.7    1.365
-16.0   82    36.96   2330    1989   37379   6983     95.5    1.330
-14.0   84    37.84   2380    2075   39730   7150     96.3    1.293
-12.0   86    38.72   2430    2164   42223   7310     97.0    1.257
-10.0   88    39.60   2480    2253   44865   7461     97.6    1.222
-08.0   90    40.48   2530    2344   47667   7603     98.2    1.189
-06.0   92    41.36   2579    2437   50640   7735     98.7    1.157
-04.0   94    42.24   2628    2530   53796   7858     99.1    1.126  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    43.12   2677    2625   57146   7970     99.4    1.096  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    44.00   2725    2721   60706   8072     99.7    1.068  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  100    44.88   2773    2817   64491   8162     99.9    1.040  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    45.76   2821    2915   68519   8240    100.0    1.014  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  104    46.64   2868    3014   72809   8307    100.0    0.988  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  106    47.52   2915    3113   77382   8366    100.0    0.963  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  108    48.40   2962    3213   82262   8423    100.0    0.939  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    44.00   2820    2913   71212   7770    100.0    1.001  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    44.00   2588    2454   50393   8072     96.0    1.156

I've worked up some fabulously accurate loads in the .308 with IMR8208XBR and 168 grain TSX. It was humbling to see what that cartridge can do. I have no doubt the Partition is capable of some fantastic accuracy.

 

[gerry]

It looks like 43-44 gr is about max with various 165 gr bullets according to Hodgdon and Quickload. I would expect great things out of a 308 and IMR 8208 since both are known for excellent accuracy.

 

[sask boy]

308win is a fine calibre when I was loading for it I never had a problem with accuracy !
I had a BLR but never really had a need for a 30 cal.

Blessings,
Dan

 

[Darkhorse]

I have a .308 in a LH Tikka stainless lite with a Zeiss Conquest 3X9. I'm shooting 150 gr. Interbonds.
I bought this combo for a short range woods rifle and low light conditions. I wanted a .30 cal. for the larger exit hole so maybe there would be a better blood trail in our dense pine and briar thickets.
So far, trailing hasn't been an issue as nothing has made it over 30 yards after being hit.
I haven't wrung it out for accuracy yet so I'm following this thread with great interest. I want to try RL15 as it is formulated for temp. stability. But as the man says; "Availability dictates powder."

 

[skidmark]

Well, thank you Osprey78 for spotting some powder at a local gun show. I managed to buy 2 1lb canisters of powder that have made my choice easier for me. I have a 1lb of IMR4895 and a 1lb of IMR8280 XBR. Now the fun will begin at the range again. I love it.

Is it possible to get someone to run a quickload for me. I can't find anything in my Nosler manuals.

.308 Winchester
IMR8208 XBR powder
Nosler 165gr Partitions
CCI200 primers.

I am very excited to try the IMR8208 XBR as I have read lots of good things about it.

Thanks

I have had good results using 8208 almost as good as Varget.
Anything over 42.5 started to open up 41.8 was real good but I settled on 42.2.
I used SMK 168 for initial testing I'm sure PT's would do as well. Skid

 

[skidmark]

One thing I forgot..
In MY testing I found a significant increase in velocity as
temps went up....45 deg to 73 deg. I had speeds of 50-70 fps
faster at 73 same load I did it because we had huge temps swings that week I was shooting.
I have the targets dated with temp and speeds in my
log...so much for temp sensitive. Just my 2 cents. Skid

 

[skidmark]

I have a .308 in a LH Tikka stainless lite with a Zeiss Conquest 3X9. I'm shooting 150 gr. Interbonds.
I bought this combo for a short range woods rifle and low light conditions. I wanted a .30 cal. for the larger exit hole so maybe there would be a better blood trail in our dense pine and briar thickets.
So far, trailing hasn't been an issue as nothing has made it over 30 yards after being hit.
I haven't wrung it out for accuracy yet so I'm following this thread with great interest. I want to try RL15 as it is formulated for temp. stability. But as the man says; "Availability dictates powder."

Everybody from Pulaski County and the Ocmulgee can shoot good.

 

[Osprey78]

Well, thank you Osprey78 for spotting some powder at a local gun show. I managed to buy 2 1lb canisters of powder that have made my choice easier for me. I have a 1lb of IMR4895 and a 1lb of IMR8280 XBR. Now the fun will begin at the range again. I love it.

Is it possible to get someone to run a quickload for me. I can't find anything in my Nosler manuals.

.308 Winchester
IMR8208 XBR powder
Nosler 165gr Partitions
CCI200 primers.

I am very excited to try the IMR8208 XBR as I have read lots of good things about it.

Thanks

No problem good buddy. I am so glad I found it for you. Now can I hopefully have some peace and quiet from hearing how your BLR won't group for you?.... :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Darkhorse]

I have a .308 in a LH Tikka stainless lite with a Zeiss Conquest 3X9. I'm shooting 150 gr. Interbonds.
I bought this combo for a short range woods rifle and low light conditions. I wanted a .30 cal. for the larger exit hole so maybe there would be a better blood trail in our dense pine and briar thickets.
So far, trailing hasn't been an issue as nothing has made it over 30 yards after being hit.
I haven't wrung it out for accuracy yet so I'm following this thread with great interest. I want to try RL15 as it is formulated for temp. stability. But as the man says; "Availability dictates powder."

Everybody from Pulaski County and the Ocmulgee can shoot good.

Skidmark, Sounds like some local knowledge here. Just wait till the temps hit 90 and up and the humidity settles in at 100%, then report your velocity changes. DH

 

[skidmark]

:wink: 90 deg is normal shooting weather in Barnesville

 

[nosler06]

One thing I forgot..
In MY testing I found a significant increase in velocity as
temps went up....45 deg to 73 deg. I had speeds of 50-70 fps
faster at 73 same load I did it because we had huge temps swings that week I was shooting.
I have the targets dated with temp and speeds in my
log...so much for temp sensitive. Just my 2 cents. Skid

Well, thank you Osprey78 for spotting some powder at a local gun show. I managed to buy 2 1lb canisters of powder that have made my choice easier for me. I have a 1lb of IMR4895 and a 1lb of IMR8280 XBR. Now the fun will begin at the range again. I love it.

Is it possible to get someone to run a quickload for me. I can't find anything in my Nosler manuals.


.308 Winchester
IMR8208 XBR powder
Nosler 165gr Partitions
CCI200 primers.

I am very excited to try the IMR8208 XBR as I have read lots of good things about it.

Thanks

I have had good results using 8208 almost as good as Varget.
Anything over 42.5 started to open up 41.8 was real good but I settled on 42.2.
I used SMK 168 for initial testing I'm sure PT's would do as well. Skid

Thank you for the info. I am excited to try some loads with this powder. I have read that the 8208 powder was not affected by temp changes. Here is what I found from IMR's info on the 8208.

There’s no Target too small for IMR 8208 XBR

IMR’s 8208 XBR is a rifle powder based on an old favorite among the benchrest community, real sticklers for accuracy, with a distinct difference. There is virtually no change in velocity with modest or extreme change in temperatures. The ballistics group at IMR has tested this powder from -40 to +165 degrees Fahrenheit with virtually no performance variation.

In the field Mr. Jim Carmichael tested the new powder in a practical way; he won the 2009 Heavy Varmint Aggregate at the International Benchrest Shooters National Championship.

Pleasant weather, cold or hot IMR 8208 fills the bill with championship performance in many cartridges from .223 Remington to .458 Winchester. Whatever you are aiming at it’s no match for new IMR 8208 XBR. The legend is back

See the complete loading data 3 clicks away on the Reloading Data Center.

Will be very interesting to try it. Any where that I call for powder here in Western Canada says no powder till poss late summer.

 

[skidmark]

I bought it to try cause no Varget.
I read the same thing about not
being temp sensitive. Don't forget
to post you findings when you get going
I'm interested how it will work for you. It pressured
up quickly for me. Good Shooting