Well my ol man is not getting any younger, creeping up on the high side of his 60's, and as a result the eyes are not what they used to be. So after buying a new remington 870 express last fall and installing the Hi-vis fibre optic sites, he was really not that pleased with it. The express is heavier and a little different to shoulder then his 70's era wingmaster. So this X-mas he admitted that the 3.5" shells really beat him up, and the 3" in the express walloped fair enough ( all goose loads). So today we went to the city and he piked up a new berretta x-2, with the kick-off system, and the shop we were at had already installed a speed bead, this thing is fairly lite and nice to shoulder I'm sure he will be pleased with it. I was wondering if any on the forum has either of these products and used them could comment on them? oh sept. is so far away!