copper fouling

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Sep 9, 2006
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What do you guys use to remove copper from barrels?
I have been using sweets but I don't like the smell. Hoppe's copper solvent doesn't seen to work as well but it smells better.
 
If you haven't tried the foaming bore cleaners, I recommend them for heavy copper fouling. I use Outer's, but there are other brands that are as good. Outers happens to be what is available at my local store for the best price. Nice thing is that you can get a good idea of when you are clean, as the foam stops turning blue if there is no copper to pull from the bore.
 
I use sweets because its cheap and readily available, but yes that ammonia doesn't smell to great. Lose a lot of brain cells real quick! I have heard and read great results with the foam bore cleaners as well, in particular this stuff called "wipe out". Suppose to be the cats butt to gettin copper out.
 
I have just recently started using wipe-out. So far, it seems like it works very well indeed, and no ammonia odor or corrosion to worry about.
 
I use Sweets 7.62 for copper and Shooters Choice MC7 for general cleaning. Everything gets wiped down with Rem Oil.

JD338
 
In my opinion, Barnes CR-10 works better than Sweets and is nicer to use as well.

Barnes has had some real copper fouling issues so they came up with a serious copper solvent.

Actually, I do not use it very often. I find I can get most copper and powder fouling out by using either Butch's Bore Shine or Montana Extreme. The good thing about either one of those is that you can soak a barrel with them for a while. (Even overnight according to some sources.)

After cleaning with any of the above, I put some oil in the bore before storage. According to Sinclair International, you should not use Rem Oil in the bore. They have some sort of problem with it containing teflon. They say it is great on the action, etc. but not to put it in the bore. I don't know. I am currently using Montana Extreme gun oil.
 
R Flowers":3ew8vasw said:
According to Sinclair International, you should not use Rem Oil in the bore. They have some sort of problem with it containing teflon. They say it is great on the action, etc. but not to put it in the bore. I don't know. I am currently using Montana Extreme gun oil.

Thanks for the heads up RF.

JD338
 
For real bad cases of "Copper Racing Stripes" JB's Bore Paste

Everything else, Wipe Out or Outer's bore foam.

ZM
 
Are any of the other cleaners also a good nitro solvent? Sweets says that it will also remove propellent fouling but a patch with hoppe's after sweets says different. I like a CLEAN gun more than chocalate and was hoping to find a dual purpose cleaner.
 
None of the dedicated copper cleaners have seemed to do real well on carbon for me. They remove it, but not as well as Shooters Choice or Butches in my experiance. Wipe Out is the cleaner of choice for me now. It removes copper very well if you follow directions and has no chemical odor or fumes. I have been following it with a couple patches with Butches to get the remaining carbon from my barrels and have been happy with the result.

If you have to have one cleaner to both jobs and do them well try JB bore paste or Rem Clean. Be aware though they are abrasive and you must keep them out of the action and be sure to remove them from the barrel when you are done. They are likely the fastest of cleaners for copper and carbon removal but are potenually damaging if used wrong.
 
Just my .02 worth- Wipe Out Foaming bore cleaner always seems to tighten up my groups. Its all I use any more- I chase that with a swab of Hope's #9 just cause Dad did it that way and then follow that up with some CLP Break Free if its going into the cabinet for a while. I also run a dry patch through before I shoot. CL
 
For me tthere is only one product.

Barnes CR-10~ :wink:
 
Wipeout is the only answer.

I use CR-10 to varrify wipeout's results, however it never picks anything up. For a heavily fouled barrel I leave it in over night, and in the morning is nothing but blue sludge. I HIGHLY reccomend Wipeout. No ammonia, no dammage to barrels, no BS.
 
The best copper remover I've found is KG-12 from KG Industries. I've tried a lot of others over the years and this stuff is simply the most reliable and consistent.....no ammonia either.

Blaine
 
If you really want to see an efficient copper remover - use Wipe-Out Accelerator before adding the Wipe-Out foam. The Accelerator really speeds up copper removal and a bottle of Accelerator last much longer than several cans of Wipe-Out bore foam.

Great combo!
 
My vote is for wipe out too. I have it on very good authority that there are olympic level shooters who have thrown there brushes away after using it. My dad had good luck removing significant carbon fouling from a 7mm mag that was shooting six inch groups I havent heard how his groups are now but I know that if my groups get a little bigger with a known accurate load It has always tightened them up so far.
I used it on a 30-40 Krag I gave to a friend last witer and the first two patches came out Dark denim blue. Seems to work.
 
On a barrel that used to take 70-100 patches with brushing and sweets
to get the copper out, now after a intial swab with a bit of hoppes or butches to get the thick powder residue out, I use
wipeout, let it sit for 20 minutes and then patch out. No more copper streaks.

Wipeout will remove older gun finishes, so use with care.
 
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