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[ldg397]

Crap I didn't know that about the kreiger in 6.5. That is a little larger than I was looking for in a hunting rifle. If it was fluted it might be alright but you can't tell what the minimum they will flute.

Does anyone know what a standard featherweight barrel would be? Medium sporter maybe less??

I could go with another maker if I have to. I am not married to kreiger or the 5r.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I had a Mannlicher type CZ full stocked 6.5x55 rifle which I gave to my other grandson about 5 years ago. He still uses and likes the rifle just fine and it has been a good starter rifle for him as he was still a teen when he got the rifle. He is not the type to be moving up to a .340, .375 Ouch & Ouch any time soon. So, it gives him the power and trajectory that it needs with 140 grain bullet on BT deer. The riflew has a Pentax 3-9x40 Whitetail Special scope on it and is quite accurate.

 

[BK]

I had a Mannlicher type CZ full stocked 6.5x55 rifle which I gave to my other grandson about 5 years ago. He still uses and likes the rifle just fine and it has been a good starter rifle for him as he was still a teen when he got the rifle. He is not the type to be moving up to a .340, .375 Ouch & Ouch any time soon. So, it gives him the power and trajectory that it needs with 140 grain bullet on BT deer. The riflew has a Pentax 3-9x40 Whitetail Special scope on it and is quite accurate.

Charlie, do you need another grandson? I'd be glad to move up to the .340!

 

[Oldtrader3]

I had a Mannlicher type CZ full stocked 6.5x55 rifle which I gave to my other grandson about 5 years ago. He still uses and likes the rifle just fine and it has been a good starter rifle for him as he was still a teen when he got the rifle. He is not the type to be moving up to a .340, .375 Ouch & Ouch any time soon. So, it gives him the power and trajectory that it needs with 140 grain bullet on BT deer. The riflew has a Pentax 3-9x40 Whitetail Special scope on it and is quite accurate.

Charlie, do you need another grandson? I'd be glad to move up to the .340!

Sorry, but I have two more grandsons coming up the vine now. It seems like they are coming faster also. I guess I am just getting older, time passes faster and I am owning fewer rifles. Something has got to give! Plus, I owe my youngest son a rifle as well. The safe is getting emptier by the child! The good stuff still is promised to my sons.

Besides the .340 keeps my blood pumping with the exitement of shooting it and maybe hunting some more elk with it. It was my ideal (apple of my eye) caliber for the future elk hunting, all the years that I was forced to use the .300 H&H and .338 WM's for elk. Now I have an ultimate elk caliber and it will be in my cold fingers when I die! Sorry, no offense!

 

[BK]

all the years that I was forced to use the .300 H&H and .338 WM's for elk.

"Forced" to use a .300 H&H? Heresy!

 

[Oldtrader3]

Maybe but the .340 does it better! Mostly pulling your leg!

 

[ldg397]

Ok I have been looking at this some more. I am really disappointed in not being able to get krieger in stainless contour I wanted.

It looks like the two options that are coming to the top are the pacnor and the hart barrels. I like the idea of being able to get the whole thing done in the same place. They also seem to be more economical. Less than some of the others but still in same conversation as the other makers as far as quality. Anyone have experience with either??

The only other option is a chrome moly krieger with cerakote. How durable is it over time??

 

[DrMike]

FWIW, I have both PacNor and Hart barrels on rifles I own. Either are very well made and give excellent accuracy in a well-built rifle. I would believe that you would be pleased with either of these barrels. I really can't comment on the cerakote barrels, other than reports from others that have owned them. The reports are positive.

 

[ldg397]

If you had to pick one dr which would it be?? Service at either one better if you consider the barrels equal??

 

[IdahoCTD]

Picking between Hart and Pac Nor I'd pick Hart. I've been to Pac Nor and met Chris (the owner and a hell of a nice guy) but It's hard to deny the track record of Hart in terms of accuracy. The most accurate barrel I've ever had was a Hart. It was a .308 that shot in the .0's and .1's day in and day out if you did your part.

 

[DrMike]

I've not used either of these firms to build a rifle as I have access to excellent gunsmiths here in my hometown. As for barrels, either are fine. I do like the Hart barrel on my 35 Whelen. It meets and exceeds expectations. Having said that, I have shot a lot of PacNor barrels on rifles tuned by RMR, and they all shot very well. I would think either firm would treat you well.

 

[ldg397]

Well I talked to my normal gunsmith and I knew did custom rifle work but never talked price. I feel confident he can do the work and he offers a 1/2" Moa guarantee so that is settled.

I have decided to go with hart since they make the profile I was looking for and krieger does not. He also recommended hart or krieger saying the only reason he doesn't use them for everything is the wait time.

However I have encountered a strange feeling. I have the money decided on a smith and barrel maker. But now when it is time to plop down the cash I am questioning what I thought was the only thing I knew when i started, caliber.

I thought I was settled on 6.5x55 but now the finality of it has me wondering about 6.5x284 and even a 280ai. I have a 300 wm on the upper end but nothing below it right now except my .270 donor.

Help

 

[SJB358]

Well I talked to my normal gunsmith and I knew did custom rifle work but never talked price. I feel confident he can do the work and he offers a 1/2" Moa guarantee so that is settled.

I have decided to go with hart since they make the profile I was looking for and krieger does not. He also recommended hart or krieger saying the only reason he doesn't use them for everything is the wait time.

However I have encountered a strange feeling. I have the money decided on a smith and barrel maker. But now when it is time to plop down the cash I am questioning what I thought was the only thing I knew when i started, caliber.

I thought I was settled on 6.5x55 but now the finality of it has me wondering about 6.5x284 and even a 280ai. I have a 300 wm on the upper end but nothing below it right now except my .270 donor.

Help

I have alot of love for the 7mm's, but a 6.5-06 or AI'ed, or 6.5-280AI would be pretty sweet too... The 6.5-280AI would be pretty easy to make to, just necking down some Nosler 280 brass. Any of those would be screamers with 130's and 140's. Really a nicely balanced cartridge and there is no lack of great bullets for the 6.5's. After getting to work with my 264 more, it is a very accurate and really holds energy really well for such a small pill. Just a thought though. I like the plain old 280 and AI alot as well, but the 6.5's are alot of fun to shoot, and finding a good hunting load and then a steel smashing load with an Amax, 140 Custom Comp or BT would be something. Good luck buddy. Sounds like a great build!

 

[DrMike]

The 6.5-.284 has certainly performed well for others, and I have no doubt something similar would work well in your build. The Ackley could be interesting.

 

[BK]

With nothing but a .300 WSM, I might think about getting a little further away from what you have... 6.5-06, .25-06, maybe even a 6-06 if you are feeling frisky...

 

[sask boy]

Well guys I almost have my new lady in the safe ( :mrgreen: ) so I am going to spend some time getting to know her and then will be using her exclusively this fall
The young gun smith here in Regina is getting quite a name for himself as a very good builder. I have got to know Jace in the last few months as he is now attending our church. I have been thinking over the last few months about my final rifle and now some has mentioned a 6.5-280AI okay now you really have me thinking and that is dangerous. I know 280 brass is easy to work with what die would you use to neck it down?
I think that I will have to do some looking and planning :lol: then lots of overtime :shock:

Blessings,
Dan

 

[nvbroncrider]

Dan,

I think all you would have to do is run it through a neck die or FL die from 7mm to 6.5mm. On my 6-284 I've been buying 6.5-284 running it through the FL die and loading no problems. She's really starting to shoot since I got new glass on her. Will be doing lots of shooting and LD on that and my AI in the following weeks.

Jake

 

[nvbroncrider]

Well I talked to my normal gunsmith and I knew did custom rifle work but never talked price. I feel confident he can do the work and he offers a 1/2" Moa guarantee so that is settled.

I have decided to go with hart since they make the profile I was looking for and krieger does not. He also recommended hart or krieger saying the only reason he doesn't use them for everything is the wait time.

However I have encountered a strange feeling. I have the money decided on a smith and barrel maker. But now when it is time to plop down the cash I am questioning what I thought was the only thing I knew when i started, caliber.

I thought I was settled on 6.5x55 but now the finality of it has me wondering about 6.5x284 and even a 280ai. I have a 300 wm on the upper end but nothing below it right now except my .270 donor.

Help

Since your in a long action you can't go wrong with any of the above mentioned calibers. You can maximize both the Swede or the 6.5-284 or the 6.5-280AI or a 280AI. It just depends on what you really want and prefer. The Swede is a real sleeper when you load it up in a good modern action to todays pressure standards. It just depends on personal preference weather you want to be able to buy factory ammo or not.

 

[SJB358]

We guys I almost have my new lady in the safe ( :mrgreen: ) so I am going to spend some time getting to know her and then will be using her exclusively this fall
The young gun smith here in Regina is getting quite a name for himself as a very good builder. I have got to know Jace in the last few months as he is now attending our church. I have been thinking over the last few months about my final rifle and now some has mentioned a 6.5-280AI okay now you really have me thinking and that is dangerous. I know 280 brass is easy to work with what die would you use to neck it down?
I think that I will have to do some looking and planning :lol: then lots of overtime :shock:

Blessings,
Dan

I think Redding makes that die set already Dan, so it would be a very easy process of running 280AI cases into the FL die. Wouldn't think it would take anything special at all to make it. The 6.5-280AI has to be a screamer. I would almost bet you wouldn't lose too much to the bigger 264WSM or 264 Win Mag either.

 

[IdahoCTD]

You can get a Redding .280AI bushing die and use progressively smaller bushings to neck it down.