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Feminine elk rifles
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7MM-08 OR 270 WIN
Antelope_Sniper
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Alot of good advice on this thread.
Considering the orginal goal is an "elk rifle", I'd stay away from the .243, but strongly consider all of it's big brothers: .260, 7mm-08, and the .308. The 125gr Greentip in the .308 would really zap the deer, and give plenty of room to grow.
As for Powerstroke's/Pop's idea of a .260/7mm-08 in a model 7, that was actually my first choice for my wife. But she would have none of that, and instead picked out her .270 Win in the Delux wood Tikka.
I really like Dubyam's idea of cutting it down now, then adding a full lenth B&C later.
Considering the orginal goal is an "elk rifle", I'd stay away from the .243, but strongly consider all of it's big brothers: .260, 7mm-08, and the .308. The 125gr Greentip in the .308 would really zap the deer, and give plenty of room to grow.
As for Powerstroke's/Pop's idea of a .260/7mm-08 in a model 7, that was actually my first choice for my wife. But she would have none of that, and instead picked out her .270 Win in the Delux wood Tikka.
I really like Dubyam's idea of cutting it down now, then adding a full lenth B&C later.
Powerstroke
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The wooden stocked Model 7's you'd be able to cut down. Caution on the plastic fantastic stocks however. Remove the recoil pad on them and they are hollow... really now way to cut those down. Full size and youth stocks will interchange on the model 7's. LOP is inch difference between the two.
Can't say it's a complete apples to apples comparison, but I have both the .260 & 7-08 in M-700 Varmiters. I love my 7-08 as well as it's been a tack driver right out of the box. I load that one a little heavier, but the recoil on the .260 is substantially less.
Can't say it's a complete apples to apples comparison, but I have both the .260 & 7-08 in M-700 Varmiters. I love my 7-08 as well as it's been a tack driver right out of the box. I load that one a little heavier, but the recoil on the .260 is substantially less.
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If you're handy with hardware cloth and epoxy, you can cut down a plastic stock and still fit a recoil pad. It takes some creativity, and it helps if you have some styrofoam peanuts to fill the hollow void below your new buttplate, but it can be done. A buddy o fmine even epoxied in two T-nuts and then mounted the recoil pad with machine screws. He said it was a pain to get it right as far as properly locating the T-nuts, but it worked out good in the end.
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Well, She and I had a conversation today while it was just me and her walkin thru Gander Mtn. lookin at guns. She really surprises me some times, at the ones she actually likes, without any prodding. Thankfully, unlike her big brother, she likes wood instead of plastic. So what ever it is, it will have wood for a handle. We found a BB gun that fits her and she will get that for her birthday. She doesn't know it yet, but I bought her a Mossberg 505 Bantam .410 pump shotgun a few years ago, and it has been setting un touched in my safe for the last 5 years. I will get it out of the safe and put it back in the box, and wrap it for her birthday as well.(it's not much bigger than the BB gun!) I'll post pics of both new guns by the end of the month. She'll be 7 on the 26th!
Also on a different note, If I was to get a plastic stocked what ever, and cut it down, Have any of you ever used the spray foam insulation to fill the void inside the stock ? That should in my opinion, work better than peanuts. Also, After you had epoxied the nuts in place,to hold the new recoil pad in place, you could insert some extra long bolts into the nuts, spray in the foam, let it set, and trim it to fit, then then remove the bolts and install the recoil pad.
JDMAG
Also on a different note, If I was to get a plastic stocked what ever, and cut it down, Have any of you ever used the spray foam insulation to fill the void inside the stock ? That should in my opinion, work better than peanuts. Also, After you had epoxied the nuts in place,to hold the new recoil pad in place, you could insert some extra long bolts into the nuts, spray in the foam, let it set, and trim it to fit, then then remove the bolts and install the recoil pad.
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What about the 280?
Have her fitted for a custom stock or at least adjust the lenght of pull for her. Put a limbsaver pad on it for extra comfort.
Load it lightly with some 120 bt's for practice and trigger control then when hunt day comes use a 140 ab or a Hornady 154 IB. She won't notice the difference when she's shooting at an elk.
Less recoil than an '06 and a better trajectory all without that noisy brake.
When she turns 16 have it AI'd and your keeping up with the 7mm mag.
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+1 to what old #7 said. Brilliant idea! :idea:
The 280 AI is one smooth shooter. :wink:
JD338
The 280 AI is one smooth shooter. :wink:
JD338
As far as your cut down stock goes try this.
After you cut it down to the desired length pre fit a butt pad. (grind to fit)
Inside the stock adout 3/4 " down from the edge, tape in a piece of thin cardboard like from a shoe box that is cut to closely match the internal profile of the stock. Make sure the tape seals well.
Tape the back of the butt pad with one piece of tape. This will keep epoxy from sticking to the pad and allow lemoval at a later date if needed. Install some normal wood screws into the butt pad. The screws should be all the way into the pad and protruding out of the back 3/4".
Use some light grease (lithium or vaseline) and coat the screw threads lightly.
Mix up some epoxy and fill the back of the stock up to the top. You might want to have the stock in a vise.
Simply set the but pad on the stock and wait for it to harden. The epoxy will harden around the screws but the grease will allow them to be removed.
After you cut it down to the desired length pre fit a butt pad. (grind to fit)
Inside the stock adout 3/4 " down from the edge, tape in a piece of thin cardboard like from a shoe box that is cut to closely match the internal profile of the stock. Make sure the tape seals well.
Tape the back of the butt pad with one piece of tape. This will keep epoxy from sticking to the pad and allow lemoval at a later date if needed. Install some normal wood screws into the butt pad. The screws should be all the way into the pad and protruding out of the back 3/4".
Use some light grease (lithium or vaseline) and coat the screw threads lightly.
Mix up some epoxy and fill the back of the stock up to the top. You might want to have the stock in a vise.
Simply set the but pad on the stock and wait for it to harden. The epoxy will harden around the screws but the grease will allow them to be removed.
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Jeff Olsen
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I have brought a 7mm-08 to the elk woods and I think that would make a fine cartridge for a petite elk hunter. I personally wouldn't go much lighter than that, but I know guys can and do.
My daughter shoots my 7mm-08 and likes it. A good recoil pad and getting the stock fit and LOP correct for a petite person is crucial, too, IMHO.
My daughter shoots my 7mm-08 and likes it. A good recoil pad and getting the stock fit and LOP correct for a petite person is crucial, too, IMHO.
Powerstroke
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Jeff is spot on.... LOP and feel is everything to them.
by the way... there is a Rem M7 SS .260 w/scope on the gunbroker right now.... I know she's a little young right at the moment, but I bet my Son would be willing to hold on to it for her for a couple more years..... :wink:
by the way... there is a Rem M7 SS .260 w/scope on the gunbroker right now.... I know she's a little young right at the moment, but I bet my Son would be willing to hold on to it for her for a couple more years..... :wink:
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Thats awful nice of you! Since her birthday is next week, I'll tell her what y'all are gonna do, and when she turns 16 we'll show up to collect it and that elk hunt :lol: (all prospective sons in law must show proof of permanent elk hunting opportunities for father in law and brother in law) you sir are a fine young man! just send her a card with a picture of it :grin:
I guess she'll have to settle for the cub T that I bought her last week for now.
I guess she'll have to settle for the cub T that I bought her last week for now.
Powerstroke
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:lol: :lol: JDMAG :lol: :lol:
That cracks me up !! She'll have a blast with her new Cub T. I'm a little upset that they are so tiny I have a really hard time shooting my Sons.
This was last week. He's already on me about going again this weekend and maybe "Dad, you can get me out of bed a little earlier so we can try and see a coyote before we start shooting targets " :grin:
That cracks me up !! She'll have a blast with her new Cub T. I'm a little upset that they are so tiny I have a really hard time shooting my Sons.
This was last week. He's already on me about going again this weekend and maybe "Dad, you can get me out of bed a little earlier so we can try and see a coyote before we start shooting targets " :grin:
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I was looking through the new Remington '09 catalog I picked up the other day, and I see that the new 700 compact rifles come with a stock spacer kit that allow 1" adjustment of the LOP. Perfect! One of my hunting partners has a son thet's getting ready to start hunting in a year or two, so I can use the excuse of buying a rifle for him to use, and I can play with it at the range, work up a good load, let him use it when hunting for a few years, then when he grows into his dad's .270, I can throw it in a McMillan stock and it is mine again!
Offered in .243 and 7-08, I could pick one up and throw a Leupold VX2 2-7x with the LR Duplex.
Wow, what I won't do to justify a new gun.
Offered in .243 and 7-08, I could pick one up and throw a Leupold VX2 2-7x with the LR Duplex.
Wow, what I won't do to justify a new gun.
