Goodbye Winchester

It sounds as if you did quite well, Vince. The pepper grey stock is quite attractive, and Ruger makes a good product. I have three Ruger rifles; each shoots acceptably.
 
Vince":3qgqznzo said:
Well I stumbled in to a second rifle and put it on layaway.

Walked in to my local gunshop to pick up a pound of IMR 4831 and found a left handed, laminate stock, stainless steel Ruger in 30-06. A little massaging by a Gunsmith and I'll see if it shoots. If not I'll rebarrel it in 25-06.

It's used but doesn't appear shot out. Comes with the Ruger rings and I really like the grey laminate stock on this rifle. I wasn't liking what Ruger was offering for lefties this year as this is what I wanted if I went with a Ruger but I wasn't thinking to buy a Used one. I just tripped over this one and liked the price and condition of the rifle.

So I either have a 30-06 or a potential 25-06. Things are looking better everyday. This was my present to myself for not having a heart attack. :grin: If I have to rebarrel it I'm strongly considering going 25-06 AI but I don't know yet. I may also decide to make it a .270 Win. How it shoots and what I'm thinking I may need later will be the determining factor.

Vince
6.5-06AI :twisted:
 
Looked in to the AI stuff.
I don't think it's for me. 6.5 x 06 is interesting and holds possibilities. I'm in hopes I can just leave it as a 30-06 and then go with a .257 Weatherby Magnum later. It'll all depend on how it shoots. Of course it would make a nice .35 Whelen too. :grin:
 
I broke down and told the wife today that I put the Ruger on layaway.

She has learned that I know a good deal when I see it and that I don't buy junk so I do get a little latitude in that regard. She also knows that I don't buy junk. She has seen my recent frustrations with attempting to find a Model 70 in a left hand action too and that I'm looking to complete a 3 Gun Battery for North American hunting using all left handed actions.

On a side note, I also found a Remington left hand in .270 Win but the stainless Ruger appealed to me over the blue on the Remington. The price for the Ruger was half that of the Remington but it didn't have the features I wanted. I'm partial to wood and blued steel, a la my Model 70 .338 WM, but sometimes stainless is a better way to go.

Vince
 
Vince,

The LH Zastavas are one option. I helped arrange a large group buy of these with the importer, who is here in Las Vegas. Reviews are that it is a good start, but they will need work to turn into what an American considers a good rifle.

Winchester can always change their minds. It took 130 years (1866-1996) for them to produce a left-hand rifle. :mrgreen:

I've got seven LH M-70s - .270, 7mmSTW, .300 Win. Mag., .338 Win. Mag., .375H&H, .458 AccRel., and .470 Capstick. It would take a lot to convince me to sell any of them.

As Fotis can attest to, I have been a lifelong Ruger-hater for various reasons (Bill Ruger's pandering to the gun-banners, the Mini-14, the poor accuracy of many of their rifles due to barrels from the lowest bidder, "lawyer" triggers, et al.).

With that said, my most recent rifle purchase was a Gunsite Scout; it was purchased with some trepidation, but I wanted something I could attach a suppressor to, and the Scout barrel comes threaded.

Well, the trigger is fine. Fit and finish is fine. The bolt is a bit rough but that is getting smoother.

The results from the second load I tried (Varget 45.0grs., Fed. 210, Hornady 150gr. GMX) is below

I think you will be pleased with your Ruger, but keep an eye out for a LH M-70.

George
P.S. If you want a big-bore LH M-70, send me a PM.
 

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CZ is back in the game also reissuing their great Model 550, FS and Lux! I have owned a couple of these and they have been fine accurate rifles. Plus they have some models in LH actions as well.
 
CZ 550 LH .375H&H is ~$1900, only $1000 more than the same rifle in RH.

They can go f**k themselves.

George
 
:x Too late. :x

This has been a pet peeve of mine for decades. European manufacturers really have a hard-on for lefties.

Except for the old Sakos (A series Finnbears) every LH version from a Euro-weenie manufacturer is significantly more expensive.

Blaser adds a very small premium for its LH bolt assemblies for the R84/R93/R8 rifles, but those rifles are too expensive for what they are.

George
 
I understand the frustrations of us lefties and pricing. I will add though the Sako 85 LH is priced the same as the equivalent RH models so hats off to them.
 
I'll not pay more for a left handed rifle than I would for the same thing in right handed.

If the price is the same between a right and left handed rifle then it's a non-issue for me.

I like buying used as that tends to save me a few shekels.
 
Savage is another one that is fair with their pricing not sure about Ruger and Remington off hand.
 
Vince,

You should be more than happy with the Ruger, and at a good price, how can you go wrong?
The only thing that the Remington would have going for you is the availability of all sorts of after market products to help turn it into the customized rifle you may truly desire. If you like the looks of the laminate stocks, there are different color choices from Boyds, in both drop in and just in-letted, so that you can finish it in style that you prefer. Prices are decent too. (They also have wood stocks). And you can always have the metal work tefloned or powder coated (in color) as choices in the metalwork finish as well.

As for a three gun battery, with the 338 already, any cartridge in the 270/280.30-06 family and then a 25-06/257 Wby should cover most anything you want to hunt from coyotes on up through the bigger bears. Unless of course you decide that you need a varmint cartridge in a 22/24 caliber for gophers and coyotes.
 
Starting to lean towards a .223 in a bolt gun for the smaller third gun in the battery.
Lot of folks have been filling my ear about this choice and almost have me convinced. What say you all?
 
It is hard for me to fault gun companies for charging added ABC (activity based costing) to LH bolt rifles. The need to run a separate cost center for LH rifles does cost more. I think hunters, shooters and gun manufacturer's maybe need to meet half way on this. I also believe that Winchester (Browning) should make a LH Model 70, for what it is worth.
 
Oldtrader3":13gbz3sc said:
It is hard for me to fault gun companies for charging added SBC (activity based costing) to LH bolt rifles. The need to run a separate cost center for LH rifles does cost more. I think hunters, shooters and gun manufacturer's maybe need to meet half way on this. I also believe that Winchester (Browning) should make a LH Model 70, for what it is worth.

I agree that Winchester should make a left hand Model 70.
Browning does make some left handed rifles but I don't want a Browning. I want a by God Model 70! :evil:
Since I have 2/3 of my battery I'm looking at a Winchester 1885 in .223 for varmints. What can I say?
 
Nice gun but certainly not worth $1600, that right there is why Winchester makes me mad :evil:
 
I paid $650 for my .338 Model 70 and then paid a Gunsmith almost $1,000 to massage it.
That's too much money, IMHO, for a Model 70 even though it has a left handed action.
 
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