Have I found an error in the new manual?

[PJGunner]

The title says it all. When assisting a friend with data for the 30-06 AI I found that the data for the standard 30-06 and the 30-06AI are exactly the same in my copy of manual #7
I checked using data from manual #6 and in that one charges for the 30-06 were less than for the 30-06AI. It is my belief that the data for the 30-06is in error.
Please advise.
Paul B.

 

[R Flowers]

I have not looked at the data you are talking about, but it seems all new manual have errors in them. In the Nosler #7, one of the pages in the 300WSM section is 308 Winchester data.

The new Hornady manual even has a web site where you can look up errors they have found.

When Speer came out with the #10 manual I found LOTS of errors and contacted them. I contacted them and they were gratefull for the information.

 

[ScreaminEagle]

Good thing you caught that. Not that it would have hurt anything, but if certain load info got screwed up, someone could really get hurt!

 

[CMBTshooter]

For the .308 Win 175/180s, the charges are higher in 7 and the velocities are lower. What's the deal with this?

 

[Guy Miner]

Probably shot in a different barrel with a different chamber reamer. That stuff has a certain impact on velocity & pressure.

 

[ScreaminEagle]

That's why i never look at one reloading manual when coming up with a load. I always check at least three sources before my powder measure throws a charge.

 

[McDAccountant]

The title says it all. When assisting a friend with data for the 30-06 AI I found that the data for the standard 30-06 and the 30-06AI are exactly the same in my copy of manual #7
I checked using data from manual #6 and in that one charges for the 30-06 were less than for the 30-06AI. It is my belief that the data for the 30-06is in error.
Please advise.
Paul B.

Not sure what you are looking at but I just compared the 30-06 with the 30-06AI in my #7 and they are different from each other. However, 30-06 in #7 is the same as it was in #6 with the exception of not listing AA3100 in #7. The 30-06AI is the same in #7 as it is in #6.

One difference I did notice was the loading info for the 30-06AI was listed in the Appendix of #7 whereas it was listed immediately following 30-06 in the #6.

 

[HomerOz]

G'Day Fella's,

I'm left with the impression that all these mistakes and Boo Boo's, have something to do with the world we now live in!
Regardless of which business of country we now live in, Mediocrity and Incompetence, is not only deemed to be Acceptable but in many situations, it's actually Rewarded!!!

God Helps us all!

Doh!
Homer

 

[PJGunner]

This is the response I got from Nosler. I still think the data is in error.
Paul B.


"Book #7 180gr. data was re-shot with newer powders. "

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I was checking data in the new #7 manual and comparing 30-06 data vs 30-6AI date and they're exactly the same. Then, I checked the same data in the #6 manual and there was a difference, It is my belief that the data for the standard 30-06 is in error and may be too hot.
Paul B.

 

[steve4102]

That's it? That's their reply?

 

[PJGunner]

That's it? That's their reply?

Yes, that was all they replied back. Not a satisfactory answer in my not very huble opinion.
Paul B.

 

[nosler06]

The title says it all. When assisting a friend with data for the 30-06 AI I found that the data for the standard 30-06 and the 30-06AI are exactly the same in my copy of manual #7
I checked using data from manual #6 and in that one charges for the 30-06 were less than for the 30-06AI. It is my belief that the data for the 30-06is in error.
Please advise.
Paul B.

I have not seen my new #7 manual yet as it is still being shipped. I will have to go through the 30-06 and .308 data sets very carefully and see if I can find any differences. Hopefully it is not a manual that will collect more dust than get used as much as my #6.

 

[DrMike]

I've read and reread the data; while it is possible that I'm missing something, Nosler's reply is consistent with what is published. Misprints and mistakes are not all that uncommon in hand loading guides. For this reason, the hand loader is responsible to work up a load safely, watching for signs or pressure.