Heavy 6.5mm bullet

[gerry]

gerry and others, would you be so kind as to tell us where you found the 156 g Norma Oryx bullets. I have found boxes of loaded ammo for sale occasionally but no bullets, I am another that would like to try them in a 6.5.

I think the only loaded norma oryx I found was 270 and that was a while back

thank you

I have tried to find them here in Canada with no success but thanks to a very kind forum member they are sending some over here.

Midway USA has some 6.5mm 156 gr in stock.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/518468 ... uctFinding


Gene, that was why I suggested a 150 gr bullet such as a Partition I'm sure they can get that to work fine in a 1 in 8 twist.

 

[truck driver]

Good old Midway USA seems to come up with hard to get products.

 

[SJB358]

Going to load up a couple of the 156's soon in the Swede and 264 Win Mag. Should be a good test at both ends of the speed spectrum.

 

[gerry]

Going to load up a couple of the 156's soon in the Swede and 264 Win Mag. Should be a good test at both ends of the speed spectrum.

I hope you do it soon, it will be interesting to see how it handles 3000 fps especially. It should be awesome at 6.5x55 speeds too.

 

[wingnut]

So, fellows, what is so wrong with the soon to be 6.5mm 142g ABLR?

 

[gerry]

Nothing at all, just want to have a tougher and heavier option. I plan on trying the 142 gr ABLR in our 6.5mm rifles especially my wife's 6.5x55.

 

[1100 Remington Man]

I with some other posters here in my .264 Win Mag. I see no use going heaver than 140gr, & I use the 120gr as my go to Rifle for anything lighter than Elk. When my Nosler 120gr are gone I'm going to try Hornady's 123gr Nosler 129LRAB & Swift 130gr for a higher BC. & this is where I see the .264 Win Mag as a Longrange Deer & Antelope Rifle like Winchester envisioned. I may go green also with a Copper Bullet like Nosler 120gr.

 

[Africa Huntress]

It would basically match the 175 gr 7mm and 200 gr 308 Partitions in sectional density and have a better b.c. as well. I realize the 140 gr Nosler bullets are excellent but a good 150 gr bullet would just add a bit more penetration on bigger animals. Maybe I am out of step with some other 6.5 mm shooters but the bigger rounds have the case capacity to push those heavy bullets fast and penetrate deep when they get there.

I dont think you are out of step at all Gerry. I think you are spot on

I prefer

160 Woodleigh and 156 Oryz -- large
140 woodleigh --medium
110 GSC--light ( you fellows who have not tried these bullets, might want to do so )

We are stuck at an airport, which gives one time to read books, magazines and forums

 

[alaska100]

Interesting, good thread gerry. Now that GS Custom has a plant in the states, who is using their product ?, gerry, can you get their bullets in Canada, easily. Do they have a distributor in Canada. We do use and like the Woodleigh bullets. Anyway, I am another who agrees with your thinking gerry

 

[desertcj]

I think the 142 LRAB is a nice addition to Nosler's 6.5mm line. I'd like to think there is still room to go heavier as well. I'm not sure what that exact weight might be but 160gr would probably be max? I'd really like to see Nosler make a 100gr 6.5mm E-tip as well as a 120gr 7mm E-tip, but I digress....this is a .264" thread.

 

[longrangehunter]

I think if the case is big enough to maintain sufficient velocity then going heavier could have an advantage.

Here's a link to what would have been the fastest most overbore 6.5 around had it ever been made.

http://www.lapua.com/en/story-of--338-lapua-magnum.html

But I'll paraphrase what's at the very bottom of the page.

High velocity 6.5 mm

Among the wildcat versions of the .338 Lapua Magnum, the 6.5-338 Lapua remains possible the as the fastest. Originally designed in Finland, it has to be one of the highest velocity cartridges in this bore size.

The 6.5-338 is necked down from the .338 Lapua Magnum case to the 6.5 mm (.264 caliber) bullet. The shoulders are pushed back somewhat, and the body taper is reduced by fireforming. In its finished form, the case body is almost cylindrical. The final case capacity is slightly greater than that of the parent 338 Lapua Magnum.

Ballistic performance is impressive, to say the least! With top loads, a 9 g (139 grs) Scenar HPBT bullet will leave muzzle at an incredible 1150 mps (3780 fps). By comparison, the 6.5-284 will shoot that same bullet with about 930 mps (3050 fps) muzzle velocity.

References:

Interview: Juha Eväsoja

Nammo Lapua Oy archives

Jim Schantz: The Long Range Rifle System That Never Was: The Heckler & Koch

WSG2000 Sniper Weapon System Tactical Shooter February 2000

 

[gerry]

Glad you agree with me I am looking forward to trying those 156 gr Oryx bullets.

The 142 gr ABLR is definitely a welcome addition and as soon as we can find some we will give them a try.

It would basically match the 175 gr 7mm and 200 gr 308 Partitions in sectional density and have a better b.c. as well. I realize the 140 gr Nosler bullets are excellent but a good 150 gr bullet would just add a bit more penetration on bigger animals. Maybe I am out of step with some other 6.5 mm shooters but the bigger rounds have the case capacity to push those heavy bullets fast and penetrate deep when they get there.

I dont think you are out of step at all Gerry. I think you are spot on

I prefer

160 Woodleigh and 156 Oryz -- large
140 woodleigh --medium
110 GSC--light ( you fellows who have not tried these bullets, might want to do so )

We are stuck at an airport, which gives one time to read books, magazines and forums

 

[gerry]

I have never seen the GS custom bullets here so I don't know if anyone imports them into Canada. I would like to try them especially in my 260 Rem one day. The Cutting Edge Raptor is another one that would be awesome to try.

Interesting, good thread gerry. Now that GS Custom has a plant in the states, who is using their product ?, gerry, can you get their bullets in Canada, easily. Do they have a distributor in Canada. We do use and like the Woodleigh bullets. Anyway, I am another who agrees with your thinking gerry

 

[gerry]

The 142 gr ABLR will likely be a big seller for Nosler, it will be useful for the small 6.5's all the way up to the big 26 Nosler. Those two E Tips sound very good as well especially in the 260 Rem and 7mm-08.

I think the 142 LRAB is a nice addition to Nosler's 6.5mm line. I'd like to think there is still room to go heavier as well. I'm not sure what that exact weight might be but 160gr would probably be max? I'd really like to see Nosler make a 100gr 6.5mm E-tip as well as a 120gr 7mm E-tip, but I digress....this is a .264" thread.

 

[Africa Huntress]

Sean, Scotty has some GSC, but I dont know if he has run them yet.

Gerry, I am sending you a pm about the 260Rem GSC. They will want to know the twist rate in the rifle that you will use them in, when they are ordered and I believe they are only available in one type of bullet, but not 100% sure about that.

 

[hunternyny]

thank you gerry for the link

 

[SJB358]

I'd love to see a 160 for the 264 Win Mag. I think there is some good speed potential and man, any decently built bullet should penetrate real well.

I'd like to run a few of the 160 Woodleighs from my 264 in the future. I think they may be short enough to work in that rifle and 3000 would have carbide drill bit like penetration.