Hornady 178 eld-x and 30-06 quickload request

[clearwater]

The ace hardware store had the hornady 178 g eldx bullets on sale, $20 for a 100 so I bought the last two boxes. Also got some reloder 16 and 17.

Hornady on the phone just had me look up similar bullets and powder in my 2003 manual. I guess they want me to buy their new manual.

Could I please get a quickload for the bullet hopefully with those powders included?

Also, would that data be useful for the 180 nosler bullets? I have the AB, BT and e-tip on hand. My nosler manual doesn't list rx16.
Thanks,

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 178, Hornady ELD-X 3074 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 58.078 grain H2O = 3.771 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    50.49   2538    2546   42211   9834     98.6    1.270
-09.0   91    51.05   2567    2603   43637   9923     98.9    1.250
-08.0   92    51.61   2595    2661   45118  10006     99.1    1.231
-07.0   93    52.17   2623    2719   46651  10083     99.4    1.212
-06.0   94    52.73   2651    2778   48239  10156     99.6    1.194
-05.0   95    53.30   2679    2837   49886  10222     99.7    1.176
-04.0   96    53.86   2707    2897   51589  10283     99.8    1.158  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   97    54.42   2735    2957   53367  10338     99.9    1.140  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    54.98   2763    3017   55204  10388    100.0    1.123  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    55.54   2790    3077   57113  10431    100.0    1.106  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    56.10   2818    3138   59093  10470    100.0    1.090  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    56.66   2845    3200   61150  10508    100.0    1.073  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    57.22   2872    3261   63278  10545    100.0    1.057  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    57.78   2900    3323   65506  10581    100.0    1.041  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    58.34   2927    3385   67815  10616    100.0    1.026  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    58.91   2953    3447   70214  10651    100.0    1.011  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    56.10   2931    3395   72221  10020    100.0    1.008  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    56.10   2646    2767   47787  10651     97.1    1.196



Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 178, Hornady ELD-X 3074 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 58.078 grain H2O = 3.771 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59250 psi, or 408 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

3 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                 110.8     63.8     4.13    2886    99.6    59250   11782   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          111.3     62.2     4.03    2846    97.6    59250   11605   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  100.9     56.7     3.67    2840   100.0    59250   10531   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                 100.0     56.1     3.64    2820   100.0    59250   10473   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                           100.0     56.1     3.64    2820   100.0    59250   10473   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  107.0     61.0     3.95    2817    97.9    59250   11233   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       107.5     57.2     3.71    2801   100.0    59250   10005   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                 107.2     55.9     3.62    2799    99.9    59250   10350   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    112.0     61.3     3.97    2794    93.4    57716   11435   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  103.7     58.2     3.77    2791    99.4    59250   10532   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.6     60.8     3.94    2786    94.0    59250   11086   1.086  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                105.6     58.4     3.78    2779    98.2    59250   10631   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                101.4     57.8     3.75    2778    98.5    59250   10586   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     104.7     57.9     3.75    2777    98.5    59250   10570   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 112.0     60.6     3.93    2775    95.7    56841   11147   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       112.0     60.6     3.93    2775    95.7    56841   11147   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       112.0     60.6     3.93    2775    95.7    56841   11147   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        111.3     60.2     3.90    2770    93.8    59250   10945   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        98.9     56.0     3.63    2769    97.8    59250   10524   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      98.9     56.0     3.63    2769    97.8    59250   10524   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    112.0     63.7     4.13    2768    91.2    56803   11331   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 109.2     58.5     3.79    2765    96.0    59250   10668   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          104.3     55.2     3.58    2764    99.5    59250   10231   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         104.3     55.2     3.58    2764    99.5    59250   10228   1.105  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     111.9     65.3     4.23    2763    96.3    59250   10706   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      103.7     55.5     3.60    2763    99.6    59250   10232   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    101.2     55.4     3.59    2762    99.4    59250   10343   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         109.9     58.9     3.81    2757    96.0    59250   10582   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        108.2     57.6     3.73    2756    95.7    59250   10551   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           109.5     56.1     3.64    2748    99.6    59250   10026   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        106.7     57.1     3.70    2739    95.7    59250   10345   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          103.4     57.1     3.70    2739    95.7    59250   10345   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          106.7     57.1     3.70    2739    95.7    59250   10345   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       109.6     59.3     3.84    2736    97.1    59250   10284   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                107.2     55.5     3.60    2735   100.0    59250    9467   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       104.3     56.7     3.67    2725    97.4    59250   10101   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   109.9     59.5     3.85    2721    93.2    59250   10285   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          96.5     52.2     3.38    2719   100.0    59250    9522   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       96.5     52.2     3.38    2719   100.0    59250    9522   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        95.8     52.4     3.40    2714    99.3    59250    9801   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             107.3     60.6     3.93    2714    95.6    59250   10067   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       98.7     52.2     3.39    2713   100.0    59250    9448   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         103.3     54.7     3.55    2710    97.9    59250    9956   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        98.6     51.6     3.35    2706   100.0    59250    9438   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      112.0     59.5     3.86    2703    92.7    55056   10551   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      107.3     56.6     3.67    2702    94.5    59250    9984   1.103  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      112.0     60.0     3.89    2697    98.0    56334   10057   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 112.0     58.7     3.80    2697    99.5    51077   10398   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  112.0     64.0     4.15    2694    92.6    53404   10958   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         101.9     53.4     3.46    2691    98.7    59250    9639   1.122  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   110.9     57.8     3.74    2691    93.7    59250    9975   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        91.4     50.4     3.27    2690   100.0    59250    8919   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        112.0     59.3     3.84    2689    94.1    51603   10846   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     112.0     59.3     3.84    2689    94.1    51603   10846   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                112.0     64.0     4.15    2688    92.3    53106   10944   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       96.2     50.4     3.26    2688   100.0    59250    8912   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    90.4     51.9     3.36    2687    99.2    59250    9448   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      100.5     52.8     3.42    2683    97.1    59250    9694   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         100.5     52.8     3.42    2683    97.1    59250    9694   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        97.4     52.9     3.43    2682    97.1    59250    9687   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       106.0     60.5     3.92    2667    93.3    59250    9720   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       90.5     47.4     3.07    2664   100.0    59250    8556   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      112.0     58.3     3.78    2657    92.1    54890   10055   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901                       90.4     46.0     2.98    2646   100.0    59250    8527   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       112.0     61.1     3.96    2645    89.4    53992   10268   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           112.0     58.3     3.78    2644    91.3    50470   10561   1.169
ADI AP 2214                        112.0     62.2     4.03    2642    91.5    53105   10401   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    112.0     59.3     3.84    2634    95.3    53438    9732   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 112.0     59.6     3.86    2625    96.6    46610   10782   1.210
Vihtavuori N160                    112.0     57.5     3.73    2622    93.2    54794    9567   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         112.0     56.7     3.67    2526    95.7    45390    9594   1.264
IMR 7977 Enduron                   112.0     59.3     3.84    2519    82.7    54075    8831   1.161  ! Near Maximum !


Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 178, Hornady ELD-X 3074 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 58.078 grain H2O = 3.771 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-16

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   96    50.22   2516    2503   41912   9641     97.8    1.283
-09.0   97    50.78   2545    2559   43352   9733     98.1    1.263
-08.0   98    51.34   2573    2616   44845   9821     98.4    1.244
-07.0  100    51.89   2601    2674   46393   9904     98.7    1.224
-06.0  101    52.45   2629    2732   47997   9982     99.0    1.206
-05.0  102    53.01   2657    2790   49663  10056     99.2    1.187
-04.0  103    53.57   2685    2849   51391  10124     99.4    1.169  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0  104    54.13   2713    2908   53185  10187     99.6    1.151  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  105    54.68   2740    2968   55049  10245     99.7    1.134  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  106    55.24   2768    3028   56983  10297     99.8    1.117  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  107    55.80   2795    3088   58993  10344     99.9    1.100  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  108    56.36   2823    3149   61082  10386    100.0    1.083  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  109    56.92   2850    3210   63254  10422    100.0    1.067  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  110    57.47   2877    3272   65512  10453    100.0    1.051  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  111    58.03   2904    3334   67861  10483    100.0    1.035  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  112    58.59   2931    3396   70294  10513    100.0    1.020  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    107    55.80   2912    3352   72440   9867    100.0    1.016  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    107    55.80   2621    2716   47031  10409     96.0    1.210

 

[clearwater]

Thanks much!

 

[pharmseller]

I load 58.5 gr Hunter with a Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primer for cloverleaf groups at 2840 fps.

Start low and work up.




P

 

[clearwater]

Shot a few loads with the RX16. Primers started to flatten at max load. About 1.5" to 1.1" 3 shot groups at 100 meters as I worked up. So promising. Want to chrono them next.

Also shot a couple of 180 BT's with RX17. Right at 1.1" at 100 meters too and close to the same point of impact as the Hornady.