how about 130 scirocco 270 wsm?

[hunter24605]

So, I have a good supply of 130 gr Scirocco II's I acquired for a 270 Win that I ended up trading. I'm thinking about putting them to use in a 270 wsm to stretch across some LONG river bottom pastures at my friends, bro in law's farm for whitetail and the occasional black bear. I have RL-19, which I think should step them out nicely, along with RL-22, 26, and magpro that I assume will also work quite well. Anyone have first hand experience with this particular combination or a powder suggestion I'm overlooking? BTW it's a 24" 1:10

 

[DrMike]

It has been a while since I last used the 130 Scirocco in a 270 WSM, and that was for a client. It was an excellent load, as I recall. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on about anything I encountered. As it is, I've settled on the 130 E-Tip in my own 270 WSM. It has worked very well for me, dropping elk, moose, mule deer, whitetail and black bear thus far. I can't imagine that the 130 Scirocco would perform any differently.

 

[drakehammer]

My .270 WSM X-bolt preferred 130gr Sciroccos with RE-22. Actually RE-22 was best for all bullets I loaded. I have killed a pile of whitetail with them from every angle.


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[hunter24605]

Good info, guys. This one in an A Bolt that I've only shot enough to break in the barrel and zero the scope. That was when I got it two years ago and haven't worked with it since.

 

[drakehammer]

Just make sure you start 0.030” off the lands and continue to seat in to 0.100” or more. Sciroccos need plenty of jump.


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[Dwh7271]

Cartridge          : .270 WSM
Bullet             : .277, 130, Swift Scirocco
Useable Case Capaci: 70.966 grain H2O = 4.608 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

16 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                  99.4     69.9     4.53    3352   100.0    63000   13449   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 108.4     70.5     4.57    3333   100.0    63000   13093   1.103  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          100.4     68.5     4.44    3330    99.9    63000   13622   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     75.9     4.92    3326    94.5    59713   15044   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    102.2     68.3     4.43    3325    98.2    63000   13961   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   97.4     67.9     4.40    3325   100.0    63000   13222   1.098  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                105.0     73.3     4.75    3325    99.0    63000   13705   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  104.8     73.2     4.74    3325    99.0    63000   13682   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           106.7     67.9     4.40    3316    98.6    63000   13542   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       101.0     67.9     4.40    3316    98.6    63000   13542   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    102.4     71.2     4.61    3312    97.0    63000   14012   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     72.0     4.66    3309    98.8    61587   13926   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        110.0     72.0     4.66    3309    98.8    61587   13926   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        102.0     67.4     4.37    3301    98.5    63000   13412   1.095  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 102.5     67.8     4.39    3300    99.4    63000   13432   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       102.5     67.8     4.39    3300    99.4    63000   13432   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       102.5     67.8     4.39    3300    99.4    63000   13432   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     105.2     68.1     4.41    3299    99.3    63000   13445   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        105.2     68.1     4.41    3299    99.3    63000   13445   1.113  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   91.1     62.5     4.05    3296   100.0    63000   12146   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        105.8     71.8     4.65    3292    98.8    63000   13221   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     102.2     72.8     4.72    3279    99.7    63000   12823   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  95.1     60.6     3.93    3274   100.0    63000   12093   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            90.1     61.8     4.01    3271   100.0    63000   12064   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  90.1     61.8     4.01    3271   100.0    63000   12064   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      103.7     67.3     4.36    3266    98.1    63000   13113   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 104.9     67.1     4.35    3264   100.0    63000   12123   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         98.9     64.3     4.17    3261    99.2    63000   12764   1.100  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       105.6     70.4     4.56    3261    96.7    63000   13192   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  99.4     65.0     4.21    3257    99.3    63000   12823   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 95.7     64.6     4.19    3254   100.0    63000   12503   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 91.9     64.0     4.15    3251   100.0    63000   12415   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         100.1     65.5     4.24    3250    99.2    63000   12729   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      94.9     64.1     4.16    3249   100.0    63000   12397   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   93.4     64.0     4.15    3248   100.0    63000   12166   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     71.2     4.61    3247    98.4    60392   13083   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     71.2     4.61    3247    98.4    60392   13083   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     78.1     5.06    3240    93.8    56066   14587   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           94.3     63.7     4.13    3234    99.1    63000   12512   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         97.4     63.7     4.13    3234    99.1    63000   12512   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           97.4     63.7     4.13    3234    99.1    63000   12512   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        96.4     62.7     4.06    3231   100.0    63000   11523   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   100.6     66.5     4.31    3231    97.8    63000   12646   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      104.6     66.5     4.31    3231    97.8    63000   12646   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           94.5     61.2     3.96    3228   100.0    63000   11887   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          94.6     61.2     3.96    3228   100.0    63000   11884   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     91.9     61.4     3.98    3228   100.0    63000   12023   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       93.6     61.3     3.97    3222   100.0    63000   11852   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        99.5     65.8     4.27    3216    99.7    63000   12251   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        95.1     63.1     4.09    3208    99.8    63000   12052   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            99.1     62.1     4.02    3208   100.0    63000   11628   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              98.0     67.6     4.38    3205    99.2    63000   12172   1.114  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       98.3     63.4     4.11    3205    98.4    63000   12223   1.109  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    104.8     67.8     4.39    3199    99.5    63000   11963   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      102.5     67.1     4.35    3199   100.0    63000   11879   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         108.4     67.1     4.35    3199   100.0    63000   11879   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   101.9     64.9     4.20    3196    98.0    63000   12262   1.108  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          94.4     61.1     3.96    3194    99.9    63000   11862   1.126  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     78.1     5.06    3190    93.7    53409   14396   1.190
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     72.4     4.69    3187    99.5    52813   13561   1.191
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     72.4     4.69    3187    99.5    52813   13561   1.191
Vihtavuori N160                    104.9     65.8     4.26    3185    98.4    63000   11987   1.112  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 97.0     61.4     3.98    3182   100.0    63000   10979   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       92.4     59.3     3.84    3177    99.7    63000   11710   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          92.4     59.3     3.84    3177    99.7    63000   11710   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          93.4     59.8     3.87    3170   100.0    63000   11414   1.125  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     76.7     4.97    3168    91.4    53246   14605   1.182
Somchem S361                        97.2     67.8     4.39    3167    97.8    63000   11956   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         110.0     77.4     5.02    3147    89.3    61701   12433   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                   106.2     68.7     4.45    3123    91.3    63000   11763   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     76.7     4.97    3117    86.5    56224   12976   1.162  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     70.9     4.59    3085    97.9    46777   13646   1.275
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     71.2     4.61    3067    91.4    54954   12402   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     74.3     4.82    3060    92.6    47289   13712   1.265
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     77.8     5.04    3022    89.3    45177   13977   1.310
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     76.1     4.93    2956    81.0    47431   12904   1.310
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     76.7     4.97    2901    82.3    45567   12078   1.292
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     73.1     4.73    2897    77.9    45564   12042   1.289
Somchem 12.7-0                     110.0     74.3     4.82    2850    77.8    46424   11187   1.278
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     73.5     4.76    2839    86.6    41506   11899   1.353
Accurate 8700                      110.0     75.1     4.87    2815    85.5    40994   11835   1.352
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     77.4     5.02    2790    82.2    39701   11881   1.382
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     73.5     4.76    2767    83.4    38990   11542   1.392
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     70.4     4.56    2541    58.6    35930    8947   1.438
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     70.4     4.56    2515    63.3    33730    9434   1.479
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     70.4     4.56    1805    28.9    18720    4393   1.916

 

[hunter24605]

Just make sure you start 0.030” off the lands and continue to seat in to 0.100” or more. Sciroccos need plenty of jump.


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Yep. The 150 gr in my 280 liked .100" jump

 

[hunter24605]

Dwh7271, Thanks a bunch!

 

[hunter24605]

It has been a while since I last used the 130 Scirocco in a 270 WSM, and that was for a client. It was an excellent load, as I recall. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on about anything I encountered. As it is, I've settled on the 130 E-Tip in my own 270 WSM. It has worked very well for me, dropping elk, moose, mule deer, whitetail and black bear thus far. I can't imagine that the 130 Scirocco would perform any differently.

Mike, do you put it behind the shoulder, or try to contact bone?

 

[DrMike]

Behind the shoulder works just fine with these bullets. Certainly, connecting with bone will ensure expansion, but the design allows sufficient expansion even when no bone has been hit.

 

[SJB358]

Nothing much I wouldn't hunt with a 270 WSM and Scirocco's. They are deadly bullets in the expansion department, and very tough. They should be a rocket ship as well at WSM speeds..

 

[hunter24605]

Behind the shoulder works just fine with these bullets. Certainly, connecting with bone will ensure expansion, but the design allows sufficient expansion even when no bone has been hit.

Ok, thanks. I worked with them some before starting with the Scirocco's, but I have a stash of e-tips in queue to pick back up where I left off with them.