Looking for some 6mm E-tip QL help

[BigBoreDan]

Working on loading some 90gr. E-Tips for my 12year old who starts hunting this year. The gun is a Remington Model 700 6mm Remington with a 22" barrel.
Will be using Hornady brass Federal 210 primers and am looking for some data using RL 17 or any other powder that might give some spectacular results lol.

Any help is greatly appreciated!!!

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge : 6 mm Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .243, 90, Nosler E-Tip 59165
Useable Case Capaci: 47.717 grain H2O = 3.098 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.825 inch = 71.76 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 78 36.00 2656 1409 32161 10648 94.5 1.345
-18.0 80 36.90 2723 1482 34380 10959 95.7 1.309
-16.0 82 37.80 2790 1556 36753 11251 96.7 1.274
-14.0 84 38.70 2858 1632 39295 11521 97.6 1.233
-12.0 86 39.60 2925 1709 42016 11768 98.4 1.195
-10.0 88 40.50 2992 1788 44932 11990 99.0 1.158
-08.0 90 41.40 3058 1869 48058 12186 99.5 1.122
-06.0 92 42.30 3124 1950 51413 12354 99.8 1.088
-04.0 94 43.20 3189 2032 55018 12493 100.0 1.055
-02.0 96 44.10 3253 2115 58891 12603 100.0 1.023 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 98 45.00 3317 2199 63059 12703 100.0 0.992 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 99 45.90 3380 2284 67548 12798 100.0 0.962 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 101 46.80 3443 2369 72389 12890 100.0 0.934 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 103 47.70 3505 2455 77614 12977 100.0 0.906 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 105 48.60 3567 2542 83250 13060 100.0 0.879 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 107 49.50 3628 2630 89305 13138 100.0 0.854 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 98 45.00 3446 2373 76871 12229 100.0 0.917 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 98 45.00 3122 1948 50777 12979 97.8 1.090

 

[FOTIS]

Cartridge          : 6 mm Rem.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .243, 90, Nosler E-Tip 59165
Useable Case Capaci: 47.717 grain H2O = 3.098 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.825 inch = 71.76 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64500 psi, or 444 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

137 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP                          109.0     50.0     3.24    3373    98.6    64500   14136   0.982  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   99.2     45.8     2.96    3364   100.0    64500   12808   0.976  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  101.8     47.7     3.09    3350    99.8    64500   13352   0.976  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            98.2     45.3     2.94    3338   100.0    64500   12735   0.982  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  98.2     45.3     2.94    3338   100.0    64500   12735   0.982  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       108.8     49.2     3.19    3328    95.7    64500   13711   0.974  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    110.0     49.4     3.20    3325    95.0    62921   14086   0.992  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        109.7     48.8     3.16    3310    95.5    64500   13539   0.974  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       105.1     46.0     2.98    3304   100.0    64500   12163   0.994  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     51.4     3.33    3300    93.2    62433   13993   1.001  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     48.9     3.17    3298    96.9    62177   13675   1.001  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     48.9     3.17    3298    96.9    62177   13675   1.001  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       110.0     48.9     3.17    3298    96.9    62177   13675   1.001  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     109.9     52.7     3.41    3296    97.8    64500   13114   0.979  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.3     46.2     3.00    3295    99.9    64500   12660   1.000  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 99.6     46.7     3.02    3294    99.2    64500   12946   0.989  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     102.9     46.7     3.03    3293    99.2    64500   12926   0.989  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      97.3     45.2     2.93    3290    98.6    64500   12945   0.991  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        97.3     45.2     2.93    3290    98.6    64500   12945   0.991  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 107.5     47.3     3.06    3288    97.2    64500   13127   0.984  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        106.7     46.7     3.02    3287    97.0    64500   13030   0.977  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         108.2     47.6     3.08    3279    97.1    64500   13022   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          102.5     44.6     2.89    3279    99.8    64500   12511   0.995  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         102.6     44.6     2.89    3278    99.8    64500   12508   0.995  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     99.6     44.8     2.90    3277    99.8    64500   12640   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      101.7     44.7     2.90    3274    99.9    64500   12501   1.009  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        105.1     46.2     3.00    3261    96.9    64500   12767   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          101.8     46.2     3.00    3261    96.9    64500   12767   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          105.1     46.2     3.00    3261    96.9    64500   12767   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                   95.9     43.6     2.82    3260   100.0    64500   12067   0.993  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           107.6     45.3     2.94    3258    99.9    64500   12250   1.003  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   94.7     43.0     2.79    3258   100.0    64500   11985   0.996  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                    92.8     43.5     2.82    3254   100.0    64500   11958   0.993  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            92.6     40.7     2.64    3253   100.0    64500   12007   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       107.6     47.9     3.10    3249    98.0    64500   12619   1.002  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   108.3     48.2     3.12    3248    94.8    64500   12739   0.982  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  93.4     41.1     2.66    3244   100.0    64500   11969   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        93.4     41.1     2.66    3244   100.0    64500   11969   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          93.4     41.1     2.66    3244   100.0    64500   11969   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       102.7     45.9     2.97    3241    98.3    64500   12429   0.996  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.2     44.8     2.90    3241   100.0    64500   11556   0.993  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          93.8     41.3     2.67    3241   100.0    64500   11864   1.000  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        94.6     42.5     2.76    3232    99.7    64500   12065   1.002  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             105.5     48.9     3.17    3230    96.9    64500   12382   0.988  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          95.1     42.3     2.74    3228   100.0    64500   11660   1.012  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       95.1     42.3     2.74    3228   100.0    64500   11660   1.012  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         102.0     44.4     2.88    3228    98.7    64500   12278   1.004  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       90.2     39.7     2.57    3228   100.0    64500   11609   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                            95.4     41.3     2.67    3228   100.0    64500   11533   0.985  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                        90.6     39.9     2.58    3226   100.0    64500   11676   0.997  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      105.9     45.9     2.97    3224    95.8    64500   12383   0.988  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      104.7     45.0     2.92    3224    98.0    64500   12178   0.990  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           102.8     45.0     2.91    3224    98.1    64500   12162   0.990  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation        96.6     42.9     2.78    3224    98.8    64500   11919   0.978  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516                 91.3     42.8     2.77    3224    99.7    64500   11917   0.994  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       97.2     42.3     2.74    3223   100.0    64500   11578   1.012  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   93.0     42.6     2.76    3221    99.7    64500   11826   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     51.6     3.35    3220    94.7    58106   13518   1.024  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        97.4     41.9     2.72    3218   100.0    64500   11578   1.006  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     48.0     3.11    3217    94.2    59994   13034   1.018  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9                    91.2     41.4     2.68    3217   100.0    64500   11560   0.995  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      94.2     42.8     2.77    3215    99.7    64500   11764   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     51.6     3.35    3213    94.4    57772   13506   1.026  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         100.8     43.4     2.81    3208    99.3    64500   11888   1.003  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      110.0     48.4     3.14    3207    98.9    62277   12304   1.029  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                         95.9     40.9     2.65    3207   100.0    64500   11525   0.989  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                      96.2     40.9     2.65    3207   100.0    64500   11525   0.989  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       99.5     43.0     2.78    3204    98.0    64500   12023   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          99.5     43.0     2.78    3204    98.0    64500   12023   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                            92.9     38.2     2.47    3204   100.0    64500   10786   1.002  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        96.4     43.0     2.79    3204    98.0    64500   12014   0.998  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                            96.8     40.2     2.61    3201   100.0    64500   11340   0.993  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation        98.2     42.9     2.78    3200    99.3    64500   11649   0.989  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     47.9     3.10    3197    95.5    56395   13332   1.047  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     47.9     3.10    3197    95.5    56395   13332   1.047  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        90.2     40.9     2.65    3196   100.0    64500   10988   1.014  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                          94.5     40.4     2.62    3195   100.0    64500   11154   1.006  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       94.8     40.8     2.64    3189   100.0    64500   10973   1.031  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                           91.7     39.4     2.56    3186   100.0    64500   11105   1.008  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       104.5     49.0     3.17    3181    94.9    64500   12034   0.999  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                       93.4     39.6     2.57    3177   100.0    64500   10974   1.009  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202                           91.0     39.4     2.55    3175   100.0    64500   10735   1.004  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                     93.2     41.4     2.68    3173   100.0    64500   10857   1.004  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                    102.5     42.5     2.76    3173   100.0    64500   10864   1.004  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation        90.5     39.5     2.56    3168   100.0    64500   10860   0.992  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                          91.3     39.1     2.53    3162   100.0    64500   10850   0.990  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     47.0     3.05    3159    93.6    59023   12425   1.023  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     50.2     3.25    3156    93.6    57100   12878   1.031  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     47.0     3.05    3151    93.1    54493   13078   1.053
Accurate 2700                       96.3     44.2     2.87    3150    97.8    64500   11324   1.002  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206                         90.7     39.5     2.56    3149   100.0    64500   10665   0.991  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     49.3     3.20    3147    91.2    57838   12694   1.030  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     93.0     40.1     2.60    3146   100.0    64500   10330   1.003  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                     98.9     39.4     2.56    3138   100.0    64500   10104   1.012  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     47.9     3.10    3131    96.5    58217   11983   1.039  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     48.1     3.12    3125    97.8    50746   13188   1.092
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     46.4     3.01    3115    94.5    58964   11823   1.031  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335                        91.3     39.3     2.54    3104   100.0    64500    9950   1.010  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133                     93.0     37.5     2.43    3084   100.0    64500    9514   1.001  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         110.0     45.8     2.97    3006    96.9    50317   11792   1.136
Bofors RP30                        110.0     48.4     3.14    3006    91.0    45753   12964   1.154
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     48.4     3.14    3006    91.0    45753   12964   1.154
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     51.0     3.31    2969    82.6    44829   13214   1.163
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     47.9     3.10    2950    89.8    46996   12037   1.131
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     47.9     3.10    2950    89.8    46996   12037   1.131
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     53.2     3.45    2930    82.5    44228   12941   1.173
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     48.6     3.15    2864    90.9    40508   12554   1.218
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     48.6     3.15    2864    90.9    40508   12554   1.218
Lovex D100                         110.0     52.1     3.37    2845    78.2    47250   10837   1.146
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     52.5     3.40    2811    80.1    40053   12331   1.231
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     51.5     3.34    2793    74.0    43731   11017   1.182
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     47.9     3.10    2783    81.0    42013   10936   1.221
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     51.5     3.34    2777    75.3    41115   11956   1.214
Norma 217                          110.0     47.7     3.09    2736    86.6    34691   12195   1.316
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     50.0     3.24    2704    79.1    35620   11690   1.302
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     52.3     3.39    2625    74.0    32513   11572   1.359
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     51.2     3.32    2609    67.8    34209   10726   1.358
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     49.1     3.18    2581    65.2    35212    9932   1.312
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     51.5     3.34    2575    68.9    35011   10002   1.319
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0     49.4     3.20    2514    72.9    31471    9935   1.381
Accurate 8700                      110.0     50.5     3.27    2470    70.1    31472    9605   1.379
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0     49.4     3.20    2442    69.2    29720    9473   1.416
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0     52.1     3.37    2435    66.8    29915    9561   1.411
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star           101.2     22.2     1.44    2356   100.0    64500    4693   1.069  ! Near Maximum !
NC A3502 ,test only                110.0     47.3     3.07    2268    47.0    28932    6934   1.436
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only           110.0     47.3     3.07    2240    50.8    26835    7353   1.481
IMR TrailBoss                      110.0     16.3     1.06    2006   100.0    40122    3612   1.313
ADI AS 25 BP                       110.0     16.3     1.06    2006   100.0    40122    3612   1.313
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only       110.0     47.3     3.07    1613    23.1    15278    3371   1.899

 

[BigBoreDan]

Thanks a lot FOTIS that helps immensely!!!

 

[SJB358]

Thanks a lot FOTIS that helps immensely!!!

Dan, good to see you popping up buddy! You gotta show us some results from that 6mm Rem when you can. Also, let us know how the load work goes with the 90 ET.

 

[JD338]

That will be a dandy round for sure.

JD338

 

[BigBoreDan]

Well I hope to have some good results to post lol!!! Just finished painting the injection molded XCR stock I got to put on it. That particular rifle has an extremely dense piece of wood on it and it's a bit heavy for my son as it was for me when I started hunting lol. I packed that rifle for exactly one deer season before squirreling away a Model 700 BDL in 270 Winchester from my Dad. The 270 felt like it weighed 2lbs less although I doubt it was quite that much. The 6mm does weigh 8.5lbs unloaded without sling though so a little lightening couldn't hurt.

I'm not a huge fan of Tupperware on my rifles but in this case I think it will help my boy out. I kicked around the idea of buying him a new rifle but I have so many rifles in the safe already that need some woods time I thought better of it.

 

[SJB358]

Well I hope to have some good results to post lol!!! Just finished painting the injection molded XCR stock I got to put on it. That particular rifle has an extremely dense piece of wood on it and it's a bit heavy for my son as it was for me when I started hunting lol. I packed that rifle for exactly one deer season before squirreling away a Model 700 BDL in 270 Winchester from my Dad. The 270 felt like it weighed 2lbs less although I doubt it was quite that much. The 6mm does weigh 8.5lbs unloaded without sling though so a little lightening couldn't hurt.

I'm not a huge fan of Tupperware on my rifles but in this case I think it will help my boy out. I kicked around the idea of buying him a new rifle but I have so many rifles in the safe already that need some woods time I thought better of it.

I would imagine that rifle will do well with about anything you feed it Dan.

Glad your passing it on to your son. Hard to beat a hot 6mm for a newer shooter, or heck, even us older folks!

Maybe your son could talk you into a McMillan Edge or something like that to lighten it up after deer season!

 

[BigBoreDan]

Well I hope to have some good results to post lol!!! Just finished painting the injection molded XCR stock I got to put on it. That particular rifle has an extremely dense piece of wood on it and it's a bit heavy for my son as it was for me when I started hunting lol. I packed that rifle for exactly one deer season before squirreling away a Model 700 BDL in 270 Winchester from my Dad. The 270 felt like it weighed 2lbs less although I doubt it was quite that much. The 6mm does weigh 8.5lbs unloaded without sling though so a little lightening couldn't hurt.

I'm not a huge fan of Tupperware on my rifles but in this case I think it will help my boy out. I kicked around the idea of buying him a new rifle but I have so many rifles in the safe already that need some woods time I thought better of it.

I would imagine that rifle will do well with about anything you feed it Dan.

Glad your passing it on to your son. Hard to beat a hot 6mm for a newer shooter, or heck, even us
older folks!


Maybe your son could talk you into a McMillan Edge or something like that to lighten it up after deer season!

Well he could always try lol!!!

His Dad needs a B&C ADL Mountain Rifle stock for the 270 Winchester my dad hunted with first. It's been parked in the safe since he passed away with a crack in the wrist area of the stock. I've been afraid to hunt with it because of it and it was also a little too hard to handle that particular rifle too much. I think it's time to get it up and going as well though, plan on making that my winter project.

 

[SJB358]

That sounds like a great plan. I imagine your Dad would be happy your hunting with the old 270.

 

[BigBoreDan]

Thanks buddy I appreciate that...

 

[kraky]

Another resource....
http://www.nosler.com/6mm-remington

 

[BigBoreDan]

Thanks for the link...I had already looked at Nosler's data. I have some IMR4831 and some RL19 that are listed there. I was curious as to how RL17 stacked up.