Milk jug bullet test

remingtonman_25_06

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Nov 17, 2005
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Been saving milk jugs for a while now so I thought I would try to catch some of my bullets that I am using now.

I wanted to try to keep impact velocity right at 3000-3100fps for the NBT's to see how they would hold up.

I lined up 3 sets of 7 jugs at 100 yards and proceeded to fire the following caliber/bullets into them.

#1. 338 EDGE w/300g SMK. Muzzle velocity 2875fps, Impact velocity at 100 yards 2755fps. 108g retained weight which is 36%. Bullet was found in the 5th jug. Typical SMK performance 25-40% weight retention is all I usually see in them. You should have saw the first 3 jugs though man, they just exploded in half. Nothing like seeing 4500ft lbs take care of some jugs.

#2. 7 Rem Mag w/140g NBT. Muzzle velocity 3200fps, Impact velocity at 100 yards 2997fps. 46g Retained weight which is 32%. Bullet was also found in the 5th jug. The first 4 jugs were once again shredded. Again, typical NBT performance for hitting at the maximum impact velocity. I typically see 40-50% weight retention from NBT's. Not all that great in terms of todays bullets, but I've never had an animal complain about them...

#3. 25-06 w/100g NBT. Muzzle velocity 3500fps, impact velocity at 100 yards was to much, LOL, 3235fps to be exact. I should have set it out at 200 yards where it would have been down to 3000fps, but I shot at 100 yards anyways where impact velocity was a bit high. At the shot, jugs went everywhere. When I went up there, 3 jugs were ripped in half and the 4th had a hole in it, no water leaking out, and no bullet...Just pieces of copper jacket. Usually you at least find the solid base, but I didn't find jack crap!! Kinda dissappointed so I had 5 jugs left and set them at 150 yards to see if that would help. Well the wind was blowing about 15 mph and I didn't get a good straight through shot so I lost that bullet as well.

Didn't really learn anything new on this one. I knew what to expect performance wise. The 300g SMK literally tears apart, but since its a 300g slug, it still penetrates fairly well for losing so much weight. I was surprised to see the 300g smk and 140g nbt both got stuck in the 5th jug, more surprised that the 140g made it as far as the 300g. The 100g nbt at 3500fps is a bomb at anything less then 200 yards. Not a big deal for me since my average shot at deer and coyotes is about 200-250. So when used within my parameters and the design of the bullet, it works great. It probly wont work to great on a 100 yard shoulder shot, but then again, if you got a deer standing at 100 yards, you can always shoot for the neck or behind the shoulder.

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THANKS....for the info and test results. Always great to hear first hand experience. If you ever get the "hankering" to beat up on some more jugs I'd sure like to see them hit with an AccuBond and an e tip.
Thanks again....Kraky
 
Nice test Remmy!

Any closer and you might of got wet! :eek:
Looks to me like that SMK would of caused some pretty significant trama to an elk.

Sorry to hear you lost the .25 BT. That would of been fun to catch on video!!
 
Remmy,

Thanks for your time and effort to report. Interesting results, the 300 gr SMK wins on size alone. I know they are used by many successfully but I would rather put my trust in a bullet that has predictable performance.

JD338
 
I would like to see the results with the 120 BT out of a 7mm. I wonder if the retention % would have been higher like I think it would.

Long
 
longwinters":p29inpsz said:
I would like to see the results with the 120 BT out of a 7mm. I wonder if the retention % would have been higher like I think it would.

Long

Here is a 120 gr BT shot from a 280 AI at a MV of 3400 fps and recovered from water jugs at 100 yds.
The bullet was found in the 4th jug with jacket and core intact. Retained weight is 79.3 grs, for 66.1% . This is a very robust bullet. Nosler uses the 7mm 140 gr jacket and cuts it down to make the 120 gr BT. This gives it a thicker jacket up to the tip. This allows the bullet to hold together, even at higher velocities.
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JD338
 
Great report. THANKS

As per the 120gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip, I shot a medium sized buck last season with a 120gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip out of a Super 14 7-30 Waters Contender. The shot was quartering towards me at about 150-200 yards. The bullet entered in front of the near side shoulder, destroyed the lungs and I thought exited in front of the off side rear ham. Well when we skinned the buck my wife found the bullet jacket under the hide on the off side. Must have been just the core that exited. the buck ran about 100 yards and piled up. This is the only Ballistic Tip I have ever had seperate and found the jacket and not the core, regardless of caliber. At first I thought it was a bullet failure but in the end it was a one shot kill and that is what counts.

Larry
 
Thanks for the pic JD. That is about what I figured it might do.

Hey Larry, did you ever show us a pic of that 7-30 Waters? I have one with custom furniture (Georgia Jim) as does JD, though his is in a different cal.

Long
 
Long,

My T/C Contender has 2 barrels, one is a SSK 14"(Shilen) 6.5 JDJ and the other is T/C 14" SS in 7-30 Waters.

JD338
 
JD,

Are you going to hunt that beauty this year? All it takes is some shooting stix.......A pic of any animal with that pistol would sure look good posted. :p

Long
 
longwinters":11c0yl1l said:
JD,

Are you going to hunt that beauty this year? All it takes is some shooting stix.......A pic of any animal with that pistol would sure look good posted. :p

Long

Yes I will. I am going to talk to a fella tonight and ask him if I can take a doe or two off his farm. Think I will use the 6.5 JDJ with a 120 gr BT. If I can shoot a second one, maybe I will use the 7-30 Waters with a 120 gr BT.
We will call it the milk jug test with fur and legs. :lol:

JD338
 
Unfortunately I never did take a photo of the Stainless-Steel Super 14 7-30 Waters. It was on a Stainless-Stee; G2 Frame with the Factory Rubber Grip & Forend.

Larry
 
Antelope_Sniper":33d8wokv said:
JD, maybe you can shoot through them the long way, might make for a better test. :grin:

I've actually done that. Recovered a 7mm 140 gr BT but never did recover a 7mm 140 gr PT.

JD338
 
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