Model 70 Trigger Adjustment

[SJB358]

Guys, I am trying to lighten my trigger on my M70 Alaskan. I have tried everything, but I think the actual trigger spring is just too heavy to allow it to go below about 4.5lbs. It is too much for me. Not too bad at the 100 yard range, but when stretching it long, I need a trigger around 2.5lbs. I have adjusted the overtravel and understand the mechanics, but I need some assistance with where to get a spring that will allow some more adjustment while maintaining safety.

I know there are a few M70 nuts here. I also DO NOT wanna change the trigger unless I REALLY have to. I have almost all of the other triggers adjust fine on my other M70's so I like them, and wanna keep what I have, just wanna lighten it up. Scotty

 

[double_d]

http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/c13_p1.html

I have the spring for the MOA trigger and it dropped it from 3.5 to 2.5

 

[muleman]

Scotty,
The original trigger you have on your 338 can be adjusted down but you'll need to respring it. I'd have a good smith hone the sear as well that way it'll be crisp and light! I've had two m70's done over the years and they can be tuned very well. I like the simplicity and exposed works on the old Winchesters.

Scott

 

[SJB358]

Scotty,
The original trigger you have on your 338 can be adjusted down but you'll need to respring it. I'd have a good smith hone the sear as well that way it'll be crisp and light! I've had two m70's done over the years and they can be tuned very well. I like the simplicity and exposed works on the old Winchesters.

Scott

Same here Scott. I see NOTHING about the new MOA trigger that is "better" than their old trigger. The old is robust, open and really hard to mess up. When you enclose triggers, I think you add the element of something freezing up. Just my opinion.

I don't have a good trigger guy around here. If any of you all do, give me a heads up..

 

[SJB358]

http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/c13_p1.html

I have the spring for the MOA trigger and it dropped it from 3.5 to 2.5

I just ordered 5 of them. If they work on the 338, I will tune up the rest of the fleet as well. Hard to beat them for 6.00.. Much less expensive than an aftermarket trigger!

http://www.erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i35.html

 

[nvbroncrider]

Scotty I got a book that explains in detail how to do it. I want to say all you need to do is clip half a revolution off the spring but I need to double check the book on that.

 

[Bruce Mc]

Both of my model 70s have "gunsmith done" trigger jobs. Both entailed clipping the spring and honing the sear engagement.

 

[SJB358]

Thanks for the heads up fellers. Looking forward to tackling this!

 

[elkeater2]

http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/c13_p1.html

I have the spring for the MOA trigger and it dropped it from 3.5 to 2.5

Yep!! He ships fast too! Put one on the son's New Haven Coyote heavy 7WSM and it fixed it right up.
EE2

 

[RiverRider]

Scotty, my 70 has the MOA trigger and I was a bit put off by it at first. I bought a bunch of springs from Ernie myself for various rifles. The 70 w/MOA turned out the best by far! It's been a while since I did it, but I may have clipped just a tad off the new spring...I just don't remember whether I did or not. But that trigger is awesome, and the only thing in my safe with a better trigger is my Miroku-made Winchester 52, which has a version of the old 52's Micro-Motion trigger. I think you'll be very satisfied with the results you get.

 

[SJB358]

Thanks fella's, I am looking forward to working with the 338 Win Mag's trigger. I have the time right now to make it right, so I wanna get it all prepped before I start load work with the rifle. If that trigger turns out well, I will do a few of my other rifles as well.

 

[257 Ackley]

http://erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/c13_p1.html

I have the spring for the MOA trigger and it dropped it from 3.5 to 2.5

I just ordered 5 of them. If they work on the 338, I will tune up the rest of the fleet as well. Hard to beat them for 6.00.. Much less expensive than an aftermarket trigger!

http://www.erniethegunsmith.com/catalog/i35.html

Save one of them for me buddy! I'll send you the .264 to work on after you practice on a few of yours! :mrgreen:

 

[SJB358]

Order one up Joel. The MOA is different than the others. We will square them all away.

 

[HOGWILD338-378]

http://timneytriggers.com/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=61

They also have the MOA available also? I was going to change springs on my rifle but opted for replacement triggers? Just me!

 

[RiverRider]

Hogwild, that Timney will fit any Model 70. The MOA trigger could be retrofit to any other Model 70 as well. There is no specific replacement trigger for the MOA trigger, it only has to be made for a Model 70.

Before you go that route, I would urge you to give the Ernie-the-Gunsmith spring (there's one specific to the MOA trigger) a try. As I said earlier in this thread, my 70 Classic w/MOA has the very best trigger in my gunsafe (except for one very special rifle---also a Winchester). For just a few bucks, why not give it a shot? I don't think you'd be disappointed.

 

[RiverRider]

So, Scotty...did you get the Ernie springs and try them out on your MOA trigger? If you did and you had results like mine you'll be a a happy camper!

 

[SJB358]

So, Scotty...did you get the Ernie springs and try them out on your MOA trigger? If you did and you had results like mine you'll be a a happy camper!

RR, it's funny you mentioned it today. I just finished do it a few hours ago. I did lightly stone the sear engagement piece with a light stone. For those with the stones, I wouldn't be scared of getting after this and doing it yourself. As long as you keep the stone square with the surfaces, you will have no issues. It took any creep right out of the trigger. Remember, you are just polishing the metal, not really taking any noticeable material off. Same as polishing a plane blade or good chisel..

The Spring from Ernies was good for about a 1lb or a little more, all by itself. Once I lightly polished the mating surfaces, the trigger breaks at about 2 3/4's lbs, which seems very good. It still isn't quite as light as I would want, but it is TON's better than what I started with.

I have 3 more of the springs and will do a few more of my Model 70's as I have time. I can't see it hurting anything and once you get in there, it is very easy.

Oh, for the record RR, these were the old style Model 70 triggers, not the MOA. I will have to order another for the MOA trigger on my 300WSM..

Thanks again for all the help with this. Pretty easy once you get in there and tear it down.

 

[nvbroncrider]

The whole M70 action from ejector, bolt release and trigger are really simple. Makes it nice and easy for cleaning dissassembly and reassembly.

 

[SJB358]

The whole M70 action from ejector, bolt release and trigger are really simple. Makes it nice and easy for cleaning dissassembly and reassembly.

And why it is the best factory production rifle made! :twisted:

 

[RiverRider]

And why it is the best factory production rifle made! :twisted:

It's got all the right stuff!

But heck, Scotty...I didn't help a bit---I thought you were working an MOA trigger. Glad your old-style triggers are responding to the treatment though! I think your MOA trigger will too.