Moose ?

[Guy Miner]

Several experienced moose hunters here. Info/advice please?

I know the Big Moose are way up north in Alaska and the Yukon, but frankly I'm quite impressed with the Shiras here in Washington, Idaho and BC.

Ranges I should be prepared for ?

220 gr Nosler Partition & .30-06 ?

270 gr Nosler Partition & .375 ?

Any other pointers, other than having Scotty along to pack the antlers & meat out for me? :wink:

Guy

 

[DrMike]

My average shot is about 125 yards, Guy. I think my longest shot on moose was ~225 yards. I've passed a couple of times on shots that were 600+ yards, but they were doable. My closest shot would have been perhaps 25 yards. Moose tend to be phlegmatic (except when they aren't). So, it is easy to overlook them because they are just standing there staring at you. Either of your rifles will do the job. Actually, a 165 grain bullet with your 30-06 will topple a moose.

 

[Thebear_78]

Ranges can really vary depending on habitat. Either of those loads will work fine. I really like the 260 AccuBond in the 375.

For your 06 I would probably go with 180-200gr over the 220 just for added range. I wouldn't feel under gunned with a good 165 either. My go to moose bullet is the 168 Ttsx in my 300 rum. I normally hunt up high so ranges can really stretch out. Generally over 100 and under 300. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot 400+ if I confirmed it was legal. Lots of cross canyons and long range tundra shots. A moose has a kill zone about that of a beach ball!

There are a lot of 30/06 running around alaska and I'd bet most of them are using 180gr bullet and killing moose easily.


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[Anonymous]

Guy- I've been in on a few moose. Despite their big size, they tend to be pretty soft. An '06 with a decent 180gr bullet is plenty for one. Nothing wrong with the .375 but I've seen them readily tipped with the .270, 7x57 and a .308. I tend to think the .375 is perfect since you already have it. In my area it could be a muzzle to 400yd shot but they're usually pretty approachable...I'd not use a 220gr because it doesn't penetrate better than a good controlled 180gr and you give up 100yds in range.

Put one through the lungs and WAIT for it to tip over. It's hard to get one to drop at the shot and multiple shooting just spooks them into the water...

The old timers would put one in the ribs and back off to make a pot of coffee and have a smoke. 20min later they'd go find a dead moose. Once you spook one they can go a very long way and usually die in 3' of boggy swamp.

 

[Thebear_78]

I tend to shoot till they drop, trying for shoulders. I've seen first hand the results of "admiring the shot". It was finding a moose floating in hip deep water with floating vegetation. It's like bathing in blood!

Its been my experience that one shot, even only once, they will find a difficult position to die in given a choice, and a hurt moose heads downhill or to water




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[Vince]

I like the idea of shooting one and then having a cup of coffee. I should've done that on my deer hunt a couple years ago.

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[Silentstalker]

I would not be considered an expert by any means but have been in on two Shiras moose kills. My brother shot one with my 7mm Rem and a couple of hot handloaded 150 gr. Partitions. All three hit behind the shoulder at 30 yards. The bull took about three steps after locking his legs and dropped.
The second was shot with a 30-06 168 gr. BST at about 100 yards or so. Bull went about 15 yards.
If I had a .375 I would probably shoot it because I think it would be cool.
Either way, good luck and enjoy some fine eating! I hope to draw a shiras tag in the next two to three years!

 

[Guy Miner]

Dang, so what am I going to do with that box of 220 Partitions if they're not needed for moose? :mrgreen:

They sure work good on water jugs...

Thanks for the input guys. I really figure there's very little that can't be handled by a good .30-06 with 180 Partitions...

Guy

 

[Thebear_78]

When riled up they can take a pounding and stay on their feet. I've seen a hard hit rutting bill actually respond to calls after being shot.

My buddy who guides had two decent Bulls in front of clients last year. First client shoots one bull. The second bull sensing weakness attacked and thrashed the first bull for several minutes and second client then shot the second bull.

My buddies son shot a nice bull a couple years ago 5 times with his bow. He was 14 and his arrows where only penetrating 6-8", they kept calling it back in for several minutes before it finally dropped. This was an archery only tag on Ft Rich here in anchorage. When sex crazed Bulls have a one track mind.


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[jimbires]

I hunted moose in Newfoundland . the outfitter told me the " thirty oh six " is the most common he sees .

 

[6mm Remington]

Guy I'd carry your 375 one day and the 30-06 the next and just use those neat old 220's you have loaded up. They will do fine out to 200 yards without dropping out of sight and still have plenty left. I think it would be neat to take one with those 220's personally.

 

[Oldtrader3]

In Utah and Wyoming, shots can be longish (over 200 yards) and Shiras moose feed sometimes on pretty steep hillsides where you may want to anchor them faster. My dad hunted eastern moose with a 7mm Mauser and 175 Soft Points and had no trouble killing them. He was in northern Quebec (Chibougamau) which is not really hilly but has lots of water.

 

[NWBlacktail]

There aren't too many animals that you could justify using a 375 H&H on, so I'd take that.

I've been playing with 220 grn Partitions as well in my 300 winnie. It would be a kind of cool load to take a moose with in your -06, but I'd still take your 375.

I hear moose are easier to kill then elk, and folks take elk with 243's. So… it doesn't really matter which one you choose. They'd both be cool. :mrgreen:

 

[Oldtrader3]

I would use my .338 Federal with 210 Partitions at 2500 fps.

 

[DrMike]

The 338 Federal will take moose.



This was with the Federal 200 grain Trophy Copper (E-Tip, so I'm told).

 

[Oldtrader3]

DrMike, worked great from the looks of things?

 

[DrMike]

One shot. He trotted off about twenty yards and collapsed.

 

[Wis65x55]

First of all I will say that I have never hunter moose. In talking to my Swedish relatives they tell me that most natives use a 6.5x55 and a 160 grain bullet. I guess the moose in Sweden don't know that a 6.5mm bullet should bounce off of their hide :shock:
Keith

 

[Thebear_78]

My buddies kid took a nice bull with his ultralight 338 fed with 185gr tsx @ 2700fps. One shot at about 50 yards. The bull collapsed at the shot and recovered bullet weighed 183gr. Pretty good performance for a stubby little cartridge.

The picture on the rifle stand I'd the bull.

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[Osprey78]

Well, Guy...

The wife shot her moose pictured in my other thread at about 30 yards with my .303 British... that brought him down, but it did get finished off with a 300WM. And as I am writing this...she is laughing because she said she left the truck without the magazine!

We were pretty spoiled because we knew a guy that was full of local knowledge and knew the movements of the moose/deer/elk in the area.