I have another little Kimber on its way, so I please need some data for both the Barnes 150 TTSX and the Barnes 175 TTSX? Barrel is 24" long and "SAAMI says" 65K! Well, whatever is more feasible, whether its 65K or 63K is fine with me. I'm using Winchester Brass. Thanks! My favorite rifle Range has been shut down for weeks! AARGH!!!
Need Quickload Data for a 300 WSM please?
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Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 150, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30366
Useable Case Capaci: 71.585 grain H2O = 4.648 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64250 psi, or 442 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
3 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant Reloder-26 *C 110.1 78.1 5.06 3402 100.0 64250 12211 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 110.8 76.3 4.94 3363 98.8 64250 12197 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 100.7 69.7 4.52 3348 100.0 64250 10986 1.036 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 +C 103.4 72.7 4.71 3335 99.9 64250 11476 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 99.8 69.1 4.48 3325 100.0 64250 10927 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 99.8 69.1 4.48 3325 100.0 64250 10927 1.042 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 112.0 75.5 4.89 3323 95.6 63296 12206 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T 104.9 67.4 4.37 3313 100.0 64250 10939 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 104.9 67.4 4.37 3313 100.0 64250 10939 1.038 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 110.4 74.8 4.85 3309 96.0 64250 11811 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 112.0 78.6 5.09 3299 93.8 62786 12133 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 112.0 74.7 4.84 3296 97.4 62453 11839 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 112.0 74.7 4.84 3296 97.4 62453 11839 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 112.0 74.7 4.84 3296 97.4 62453 11839 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 106.9 70.2 4.55 3291 100.0 64250 10421 1.055 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 111.2 74.2 4.81 3290 95.8 64250 11678 1.037 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 103.3 71.4 4.63 3289 99.9 64250 11015 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 105.3 71.8 4.65 3281 99.2 64250 11203 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 101.2 71.1 4.61 3280 99.4 64250 11150 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 104.5 71.2 4.62 3279 99.4 64250 11132 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 111.5 80.1 5.19 3276 98.0 64250 11284 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 98.8 68.9 4.47 3274 98.8 64250 11138 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 98.8 68.9 4.47 3274 98.8 64250 11138 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 109.1 72.0 4.66 3273 97.5 64250 11329 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 108.2 71.0 4.60 3269 97.3 64250 11230 1.041 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 109.8 72.5 4.70 3264 97.5 64250 11236 1.048 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 104.2 68.0 4.41 3264 99.9 64250 10745 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 104.2 68.0 4.41 3263 99.9 64250 10742 1.057 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 101.2 68.2 4.42 3262 99.9 64250 10873 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 103.4 68.2 4.42 3260 99.9 64250 10718 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 106.7 70.4 4.56 3244 97.2 64250 11007 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 103.3 70.4 4.56 3244 97.2 64250 11007 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 106.7 70.4 4.56 3244 97.2 64250 11007 1.049 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 109.3 69.1 4.47 3243 100.0 64250 10508 1.066 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 109.3 72.9 4.72 3234 98.3 64250 10867 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 109.8 73.3 4.75 3228 95.2 64250 10984 1.047 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 104.2 69.8 4.52 3224 98.6 64250 10699 1.060 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 106.9 68.3 4.42 3223 100.0 64250 9886 1.056 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 112.0 78.9 5.11 3221 95.3 58901 11721 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T 112.0 72.3 4.69 3220 100.0 57719 10780 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 112.0 72.3 4.69 3220 100.0 57719 10780 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 112.0 78.9 5.11 3215 95.1 58563 11714 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 112.0 73.3 4.75 3214 94.8 60348 11287 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 96.0 64.7 4.20 3213 99.8 64250 10359 1.068 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 107.0 74.5 4.83 3212 97.2 64250 10674 1.051 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 96.5 64.4 4.17 3210 100.0 64250 9992 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 96.5 64.4 4.17 3210 100.0 64250 9992 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 103.5 67.5 4.38 3210 98.9 64250 10561 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 107.4 69.8 4.53 3204 96.1 64250 10665 1.053 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 98.7 64.4 4.18 3204 100.0 64250 9911 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 112.0 73.9 4.79 3202 99.2 62542 10596 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 98.8 63.8 4.13 3199 100.0 64250 9923 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 112.0 73.1 4.74 3196 96.1 56561 11570 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 112.0 73.1 4.74 3196 96.1 56561 11570 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 111.0 71.3 4.62 3191 95.5 64250 10666 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 102.2 66.0 4.28 3188 99.5 64250 10214 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 100.9 65.3 4.23 3184 98.3 64250 10341 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 100.9 65.3 4.23 3184 98.3 64250 10341 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 97.7 65.4 4.24 3183 98.3 64250 10333 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7 90.6 64.2 4.16 3183 99.8 64250 10002 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 91.6 62.3 4.04 3175 100.0 64250 9397 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 96.3 62.2 4.03 3170 100.0 64250 9388 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 106.0 74.5 4.83 3161 95.2 64250 10372 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C 112.0 79.5 5.15 3160 96.4 51654 12444 1.144
Hodgdon H4831 *T 112.0 71.8 4.65 3156 94.2 59609 10774 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 112.0 76.7 4.97 3155 94.3 57950 11167 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 112.0 71.8 4.65 3150 93.8 54925 11347 1.113
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 112.0 75.4 4.88 3146 91.9 58530 11041 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 90.7 58.5 3.79 3144 100.0 64250 9049 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 91.0 57.1 3.70 3133 100.0 64250 9058 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C 112.0 73.1 4.74 3126 97.0 58531 10356 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 112.0 73.5 4.76 3126 98.3 50958 11434 1.152
Vihtavuori N565 *C 112.0 75.9 4.92 3118 93.2 52099 11535 1.158
Vihtavuori N160 *C 112.0 70.9 4.59 3109 95.1 59443 10233 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C 112.0 73.9 4.79 3009 91.8 45789 11305 1.218
Bofors RP30 112.0 73.9 4.79 3009 91.8 45789 11305 1.218
Lovex S071 112.0 69.9 4.53 3005 97.4 50269 10206 1.201
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 112.0 73.1 4.74 2995 85.3 58477 9561 1.108 ! Near Maximum !the 300 WSM was built around Winchester 760 and 780 and very high fill ratios. its interesting that QL maps max at 68.9gr, the Hodgdon site 66gr but barnes data for this bullet is 70.8 Compressed!! I loaded pretty hot when it first came out and there wasn't much data on it. My go to load is 67.5gr with just about any 150gr bullet(NBTs,AB or Interbond was the usual for me). This load duplicates original factory 150gr winchester offerings in both my rifles. Accuracy is superb and lethal on big Missouri whitetails.
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I was born and raised just north of Columbia. The whole family still lives within 20 miles. I joined the navy seabees and left at 17, never moved back still hunt there. I did basic in August as well...in San Diego. it just happened to be one of the hottest summers on record.
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You originally asked for Barnes 175 TTSX.
Code:
Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 175, Barnes 'LRX'BT 30318
Useable Case Capaci: 68.272 grain H2O = 4.433 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64250 psi, or 442 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 107.9 73.0 4.73 3164 100.0 64250 11610 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 108.6 71.3 4.62 3131 99.6 64250 11714 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 110.3 70.9 4.59 3113 97.3 64250 11884 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 110.5 73.9 4.79 3101 95.8 64250 11894 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 98.6 65.1 4.22 3100 100.0 64250 10416 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 +C 101.4 68.0 4.40 3099 100.0 64250 10908 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 110.6 70.3 4.56 3095 98.8 64250 11487 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 110.6 70.3 4.56 3095 98.8 64250 11487 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.6 70.3 4.56 3095 98.8 64250 11487 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 108.4 70.1 4.54 3088 97.5 64250 11456 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 112.0 75.2 4.88 3086 97.9 63558 11581 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 112.0 75.2 4.88 3080 97.7 63187 11586 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 97.6 64.4 4.18 3077 100.0 64250 10352 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 97.6 64.4 4.18 3077 100.0 64250 10352 1.117 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 109.3 69.5 4.50 3071 97.4 64250 11344 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 102.7 63.0 4.08 3069 100.0 64250 10341 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T 102.7 63.0 4.08 3069 100.0 64250 10341 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 109.6 75.1 4.87 3060 99.1 64250 10914 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 112.0 69.0 4.47 3051 100.0 62472 10305 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T 112.0 69.0 4.47 3051 100.0 62472 10305 1.134 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 111.6 69.7 4.52 3051 97.1 64250 11106 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 101.1 66.7 4.32 3050 100.0 64250 10443 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 103.2 67.0 4.34 3048 99.8 64250 10717 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 112.0 69.7 4.52 3047 98.3 61041 11386 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 112.0 69.7 4.52 3047 98.3 61041 11386 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 99.1 66.4 4.30 3046 99.9 64250 10649 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 102.4 66.5 4.31 3044 99.9 64250 10633 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 106.9 67.3 4.36 3044 98.6 64250 10922 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 106.2 66.5 4.31 3043 98.5 64250 10837 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 104.5 65.4 4.24 3042 100.0 64250 9871 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C 112.0 75.9 4.92 3042 98.9 55689 12271 1.174 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 96.7 64.4 4.17 3040 99.6 64250 10647 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 96.7 64.4 4.17 3040 99.6 64250 10647 1.128 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 107.7 67.8 4.39 3037 98.6 64250 10839 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 99.0 63.7 4.13 3024 100.0 64250 10318 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 101.9 63.5 4.11 3024 100.0 64250 10181 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 102.0 63.5 4.11 3024 100.0 64250 10178 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 101.1 63.6 4.12 3020 100.0 64250 10138 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 112.0 73.2 4.74 3019 97.1 62130 11073 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4 104.6 65.8 4.27 3016 98.4 64250 10615 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 101.3 65.8 4.27 3016 98.4 64250 10615 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 104.6 65.8 4.27 3016 98.4 64250 10615 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 107.8 68.6 4.45 3009 96.7 64250 10674 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 112.0 68.5 4.44 3009 96.6 58961 11245 1.151 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 107.1 68.2 4.42 3007 99.2 64250 10442 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 107.0 64.5 4.18 3005 100.0 64250 9952 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T 112.0 68.5 4.44 3004 96.7 63861 10660 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 112.0 71.9 4.66 3001 94.8 62419 11022 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 110.5 69.5 4.51 2997 99.8 64250 10166 1.150 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 102.1 65.3 4.23 2995 99.4 64250 10261 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 105.1 69.7 4.52 2990 98.4 64250 10324 1.125 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C 112.0 72.4 4.69 2986 96.1 56785 11470 1.191 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 112.0 70.1 4.54 2985 99.8 54849 11119 1.188
Rottweil R904 105.3 65.4 4.23 2982 97.5 64250 10314 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 104.6 63.7 4.13 2981 100.0 64250 9356 1.133 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 101.4 63.1 4.09 2980 99.6 64250 10099 1.144 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 94.0 60.5 3.92 2977 100.0 64250 9824 1.143 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 109.0 66.7 4.32 2972 96.9 64250 10354 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C 112.0 69.7 4.52 2972 98.8 63098 10132 1.139 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 94.5 60.1 3.89 2967 100.0 64250 9449 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 94.5 60.1 3.89 2967 100.0 64250 9449 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 96.6 60.1 3.90 2962 100.0 64250 9366 1.154 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 96.7 59.6 3.86 2958 100.0 64250 9386 1.148 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 100.2 61.7 4.00 2956 99.9 64250 9729 1.145 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 98.9 61.1 3.96 2956 99.2 64250 9914 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 98.9 61.1 3.96 2956 99.2 64250 9914 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 95.8 61.1 3.96 2955 99.2 64250 9907 1.140 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C 112.0 67.6 4.38 2953 97.3 63552 10084 1.135 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 104.1 69.8 4.52 2946 96.7 64250 10079 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 94.1 57.9 3.75 2923 100.0 64250 8860 1.175 ! Near Maximum !- Thread starter
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We are surely up to a one-hour concert by now! No cowboy songs. How are you with sixties rock?
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My rifle has the Match Grade chamber, its on the tight side. I was able to get good accuracy with 69.5/Big Game and 65.5/R16, both a couple grains below QL/Barnes listed Max loads. This was with the 150 TTSX. Didn't clock it but it would put 2 shots an inch apart and the third cut the one on the right ( horizontal, gusty wind.) 70 deg. new WW prepped brass. Fed 215M
I need some Quick Load Data "now", for the Barnes 168 TTSX, ha. Can I get 'some love" from My Brother in the North Land? Thanks sir! Rev Jim
I need some Quick Load Data "now", for the Barnes 168 TTSX, ha. Can I get 'some love" from My Brother in the North Land? Thanks sir! Rev Jim
DrMike
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Code:
Bullet : .308, 168, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30370
Useable Case Capaci: 69.369 grain H2O = 4.504 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64250 psi, or 442 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 108.4 74.5 4.83 3229 100.0 64250 11808 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C 109.1 72.8 4.72 3194 99.5 64250 11889 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C 110.7 72.4 4.69 3175 96.9 64250 12031 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 99.1 66.5 4.31 3166 100.0 64250 10601 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 +C 101.8 69.3 4.49 3163 100.0 64250 11100 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO 111.0 75.4 4.89 3162 95.4 64250 12027 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C 111.1 71.8 4.65 3157 98.5 64250 11644 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 111.1 71.8 4.65 3157 98.5 64250 11644 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 111.1 71.8 4.65 3157 98.5 64250 11644 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC 108.8 71.5 4.63 3149 97.2 64250 11600 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 98.1 65.8 4.26 3143 100.0 64250 10538 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 98.1 65.8 4.26 3143 100.0 64250 10538 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T 103.2 64.3 4.16 3135 100.0 64250 10533 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 103.2 64.3 4.16 3135 100.0 64250 10533 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213 109.7 70.9 4.59 3131 97.0 64250 11481 1.088 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12 112.0 76.4 4.95 3129 97.4 62516 11685 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517 112.0 76.4 4.95 3123 97.2 62154 11687 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 76.6 4.96 3119 98.9 64250 11058 1.092 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 101.6 68.1 4.41 3114 100.0 64250 10632 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518 103.6 68.4 4.43 3111 99.6 64250 10888 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 99.6 67.8 4.39 3109 99.8 64250 10823 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905 112.0 71.1 4.61 3109 96.7 64040 11238 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 66.8 4.33 3109 100.0 64250 10049 1.110 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 102.8 67.9 4.40 3108 99.8 64250 10807 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 107.4 68.7 4.45 3106 98.4 64250 11074 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 106.6 67.8 4.39 3104 98.2 64250 10986 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 97.2 65.7 4.26 3103 99.4 64250 10819 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 97.2 65.7 4.26 3103 99.4 64250 10819 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T 112.0 70.1 4.54 3101 100.0 61398 10465 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T 112.0 70.1 4.54 3101 100.0 61398 10465 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 108.1 69.2 4.48 3099 98.3 64250 10988 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15 112.0 70.8 4.59 3093 97.8 60033 11496 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 112.0 70.8 4.59 3093 97.8 60033 11496 1.131 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C 102.4 64.8 4.20 3088 100.0 64250 10366 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C 99.5 65.0 4.21 3088 100.0 64250 10503 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 102.4 64.8 4.20 3088 100.0 64250 10363 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 101.6 65.0 4.21 3085 100.0 64250 10327 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C 112.0 77.1 4.99 3081 98.5 54787 12394 1.164
Raufoss RA4 105.1 67.2 4.35 3078 98.1 64250 10762 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.1 67.2 4.35 3078 98.1 64250 10762 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C 101.7 67.2 4.35 3078 98.1 64250 10762 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 107.5 65.8 4.26 3069 100.0 64250 10133 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 108.3 70.0 4.54 3069 96.4 64250 10802 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 107.6 69.6 4.51 3068 99.0 64250 10596 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214 112.0 74.3 4.82 3062 96.5 61206 11163 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100 111.0 71.0 4.60 3059 99.7 64250 10329 1.129 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation 102.6 66.6 4.32 3057 99.2 64250 10418 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 112.0 69.6 4.51 3052 96.0 58055 11337 1.138 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780 105.5 71.1 4.61 3051 98.1 64250 10460 1.105 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T 112.0 69.6 4.51 3050 96.1 62910 10748 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.1 65.0 4.21 3046 100.0 64250 9527 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 112.0 73.0 4.73 3046 94.2 61553 11089 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 105.8 66.7 4.32 3042 97.2 64250 10450 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 101.8 64.4 4.17 3042 99.4 64250 10261 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 94.5 61.7 4.00 3041 100.0 64250 10003 1.122 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 94.9 61.4 3.98 3033 100.0 64250 9623 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 94.9 61.4 3.98 3033 100.0 64250 9623 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 109.4 68.1 4.41 3031 96.6 64250 10478 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 112.0 71.2 4.62 3029 99.5 53975 11265 1.176
Vihtavuori N565 *C 112.0 73.6 4.77 3028 95.5 55726 11552 1.180 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 97.1 61.4 3.98 3027 100.0 64250 9541 1.132 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 97.2 60.8 3.94 3022 100.0 64250 9558 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 100.6 63.0 4.08 3019 99.8 64250 9895 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C 112.0 70.8 4.59 3019 98.4 62087 10245 1.126 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 99.3 62.3 4.04 3017 99.0 64250 10066 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 99.3 62.3 4.04 3017 99.0 64250 10066 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 96.2 62.4 4.04 3016 99.0 64250 10059 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 104.5 71.2 4.61 3005 96.3 64250 10198 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C 112.0 68.7 4.45 3000 96.8 62646 10178 1.121 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 90.0 59.3 3.84 2995 100.0 64250 9041 1.136 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 94.6 59.2 3.83 2989 100.0 64250 9028 1.153 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30 112.0 71.6 4.64 2928 94.5 48717 11373 1.240
Norma MRP 2 *C 112.0 71.6 4.64 2928 94.5 48717 11373 1.240
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 112.0 77.7 5.03 2927 91.6 48543 11806 1.239
Lovex S071 112.0 67.7 4.39 2907 98.8 53689 10076 1.224
Vihtavuori N570 *C 112.0 75.5 4.89 2907 87.2 47786 11835 1.247
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 112.0 70.8 4.59 2897 87.8 61448 9657 1.137 ! Near Maximum !- Thread starter
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Hey Doc- I was able to shoot the 168TTSX/R17 loads today. It had turned off hot ( for us) 83 deg at the range) and I was just shooting 3 rd groups. New WW cases (prepped) and Fed 215M.
64gr went into a tiny .40" linear cluster, (1 & 2 went .60" and 3rd hit in center) 65gr went into a nice, rounded .75" group. 66gr went into 1.5 rounded group. Can Quickload give some "ball park" speeds at these two charges (pretty please?) Thank you sir! Rev Jim
64gr went into a tiny .40" linear cluster, (1 & 2 went .60" and 3rd hit in center) 65gr went into a nice, rounded .75" group. 66gr went into 1.5 rounded group. Can Quickload give some "ball park" speeds at these two charges (pretty please?) Thank you sir! Rev Jim
DrMike
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Cartridge : .300 WSM (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 168, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30370
Useable Case Capaci: 69.369 grain H2O = 4.504 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.860 inch = 72.64 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17 *T
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-10.0 89 59.40 2799 2923 46297 11157 99.7 1.210
-09.0 90 60.06 2829 2986 47875 11235 99.8 1.191
-08.0 91 60.72 2859 3050 49516 11307 99.9 1.173
-07.0 92 61.38 2889 3114 51213 11372 100.0 1.155
-06.0 92 62.04 2919 3178 52969 11431 100.0 1.137
-05.0 93 62.70 2948 3243 54791 11484 100.0 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 94 63.36 2978 3307 56679 11537 100.0 1.103 ! Near Maximum !
-03.0 95 64.02 3007 3373 58637 11588 100.0 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 96 64.68 3036 3438 60668 11639 100.0 1.070 ! Near Maximum !
-01.0 97 65.34 3065 3504 62775 11689 100.0 1.054 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 98 66.00 3094 3570 64961 11737 100.0 1.038 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+01.0 99 66.66 3122 3636 67229 11785 100.0 1.023 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 100 67.32 3151 3703 69586 11832 100.0 1.007 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0 101 67.98 3179 3770 72032 11878 100.0 0.992 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 102 68.64 3208 3838 74576 11923 100.0 0.978 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0 103 69.30 3236 3906 77217 11967 100.0 0.964 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 98 66.00 3203 3826 79169 11304 100.0 0.963 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 98 66.00 2926 3193 52267 12167 98.8 1.138- Thread starter
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Thats what I got by interpolating Barnes' load data also. I don't see alot of difference between 3000 and 3050fps, do you? ha. Then again, since this rifle has a tight chamber, I may be running closer to 3100fps. I am still going to run all my best loads from all three rifles over the chrony, just for grins. I don't shoot past 375 or so even if I "have to". 150-200yds is more my liking. Thank you pard, Rev Jim
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Finally got to clock these loads today. The 300WSM/R17 64gr/168 TTSX went 3167fps and repeated its accuracy! The 300 Win Mag/R23 73gr/175 LRX went 3081 and also kept its accuracy. The 270 R16/53.6/129 LRX did not. I went on up, easily to 54.5 and got 4 rounds into 1 1/2". for 3160fps. I will seat them a little deeper and try again. 2 out of 3 ain't bad...according to Ol Meatloaf! 
