new to reloading looking for advise 7mm rem mag, 30-06

[doc55]

i am brand new to reloading, i have all the tools i think i will need from reading online . i do not have any powder or bullets yet. that's were i hope you guys can help i hunt with a 7 rm and a 06 alot looking for a powder that i can use in both guns. i would like to use a 150 gr for the 7 rm and the same for the 06. so if you can tell be some of your best combos you have used it will help me alot in getting stated

thank you for any advise

 

[DrMike]

Welcome to the forum, doc55. Given the conditions you impose, IMR4831 is about as good as it gets for you. Looking in the Nosler Reload Guide No. 6 (hopefully, you'll pick up the newest edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide, No. 7), you will note that a number of powders were tested by ballistic techs at Nosler. Other powders that worked for them include IMR4895, IMR4064 and IMR4350. I would be inclined to advise you to consider securing a couple of powders dedicated for either cartridge. Again, welcome to the forum.

 

[cloverleaf]

Welcome to the fun Doc. Some one with some more knowlege and experience than myself will be along shortly to give you some ideas. Dad always used 4350 in his 7Mag. His bullet was a 130 Speer Boatail. CL

 

[Oldtrader3]

I would use IMR 4350 for both. I have used this powder for both as follows:

.30-06
1. 165 Partition-57.5 grains IMR 4350. (Vel 2850 fps)
2. 180 Partition-56.0 grains IMR 4350. (Vel 2720 fps)

7mm Rem Mag
3. 150 Partition bullet, 62.0 grains IMR 4350. (Vel 3100 fps)

 

[Jimbeaux82]

either IMR 4350 or H4350 would be a great choice for either cartridge in the bullet weights you mentioned. You should be able to get 3000-3100 fps out of the 7 Mag and 2900 fps out of your 30/06. Check virtually any good reloading manual for the load data.

 

[elkeater2]

If you have not acquired a loading manual (new Nosler #7 suggested) from one of the major publishers, I advise doing so and reading all the fundamentals a couple times. Web knowledge is good from several forums, but should always be subject to verification. Have fun and stay safe!
EE2

 

[nosler06]

either IMR 4350 or H4350 would be a great choice for either cartridge in the bullet weights you mentioned. You should be able to get 3000-3100 fps out of the 7 Mag and 2900 fps out of your 30/06. Check virtually any good reloading manual for the load data.

I have loaded my 30-06 with IMR4350 for years and am just in process of trying the H4350 powder. I have only helped a buddy load 7mm which was with the H4350 powder and 150gr partitions. I load the 180gr partitions for my 30-06 as I feel the 150gr is a bit small for my uses. Not sure where you live, but here in BC, Canada anything from whitetails to moose and I have run into grizzlies so that being said is why I have always trusted the 180gr Partition. I have always loaded to be safe and not wanting to track the wounded.

 

[BK]

Ditto on the advice to pick up loading manuals... I would advise getting at least the powder and bullet mfgr. Guides, and more is better. Just about all of them have 'how to do it' tutorials, and each has it's own spin and ways of doing things.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I was not able to get 7mm Mag velocity out of IMR 4350 powder with the 160 grain Partitions and switched to IMR 7828 SSC many years ago.

 

[sask boy]

Hey another doc, welcome I think you will enjoy this forum. I have been loading the 7mm mag for a number of year and had very good results with 160gr Accubonds and IMR-4350 powder. I am about to make a change in powders and will be experimenting with RL22.
If you can't find the information you are looking for here I am not sure you will find it anywhere :wink:

Blessings,
Dan

 

[300WSM]

IMR 4350 is one you must have for your bench. Once you start loading you will find yourself loading different stuff and experimenting. You might have relation or friends that want to join in your endeavor. IMR 4350 can be used in such a vast array of platforms and it shoots outstanding as well. Another powder you need to pick up to have for you load bench is Winchester 760. If you can't find Winchester 760, Hodgdon H414 is the identical stuff as W760. I mean identical. Not close or very similar, but same powder in a different label. 110 percent for sure on that. So if you are out shopping for powders and they are out of W760 but they have H414 its fine to get the H414. Same exact powder.

If you really are green to reloading, go slow. Ask a lot of questions on here or other forums or both. Too many questions are about enough. Don't ever "wing it" and just try it out. That could lead to bad things happening.

A few rules I can relay to you...

#1 Do not ever go over the published charge in any respected publication. Regardless what someone may tell you or read from a forum...never ever EVER go over book listed charges. There are very few occasion experienced loaders step outside the book listed data. Don't do it. Not yet. Stay within the data listed charge.

#2 Be 100 percent about something working in a 100 percent safe manner. If you aren't 100 percent..just don't do it.

#3 Inspect your cases. If you stay in the book data I can guarantee you can get several firings from your cases. Even with using run of the mill Winchester or remington brass you will get many. That doesn't mean you stop paying attention to your cases. Split neck, body, etc etc are all things you need to look for.

#4 look at your loading block when you have charged all your cases. Make sure you have all the cases you are about to load charged(meaning powder in and ready for bullet)....and if loading pistol.....that you don't have a double charge

#5 Load your cartridge to the listed Over All Length (OAL) for that particular bullet. Or even the thousandths less. Doing either of those two things with length, and OAL, and staying with the listed tried and tested load data.....you will guarantee a safe ignition.

Oh and don't forget about the questions. The most experienced of loader never stops learning. So always ask questions. Again, too many is about enough.

Good luck and be safe.

P.S.

165/168 works really good in the 30-06
7mm rem mag will eat anything you put in its mouth.
Meaning the 7 just is not a fussy shooter. Neither is the ODD SIX. It will shoot about anything very well too.

 

[Polaris]

Before loading your top notch hunting loads, you'll want to get some bugs out of your system and some of the learning curve out of the way. IMR 4350 will work well for your 7mag. It is on the slow side for 150 gr 30-06 although you may find loads listed. It will work fine for 165 gr 30-06 and heavier. For starter bullets, I'd go with a conventional inexpensive soft point flat based bullet for both rifles. Hornady and Speer make excellent examples. They are inexpensive and generally easy to get good groups with. This will give you some practice and hopefully some conifidence to work your way up to expensive premium bullets that are often harder to group with. You may also expand your powder selection.

Some of the newer powders may be needed to get maximum velocity from your 7 mag. I don't load this round so I will defer to others advice.

For 30-06 150 grain, any of IMR 4064, Varget, BL-C2, IMR 4320, H414 should get you there.

I highly recommend any of the Lyman editions for a beginning reloader. Their how-to section is comprehensive and written for a newbie to understand but includes much advanced information also.

 

[Oldtrader3]

I use IMR 4350 as my powder of choice with several cartridges including, .30-06, 165 Partition; .270 Win, 130 Partition; .257 Roberts, 110 AccuBond and 100 Partition; 9.3x74R, 276 Partition. I just do not use it for the 7mm Rem Mag.

 

[Elkman]

180 Grain Nosler Partition for the 06, with a healthy dose of H-4831. The 7 mm mag does really well with the160 PT in front of 60 grains of H-4350.