Nosler Partition Idea...

[sledder]

I'd really like to see the Partition with a poly tip,but I'm not sure it would be economically sound for nosler to do it,which is why they haven't. It probably would have been more
feasible if they hadn't already brought out the AccuBond. The Partition would have to be more exspensive with a poly tip and the reasoning behind the AccuBond is a relatively cheap bullet without the exsplosiveness of the ballistic tip,yet the same ballistics and accuracy.

They already have a strong following with the original. You have a large group of customers that don't like the poly tip for whatever reason. Nosler would have to carry both designs,they couldn't simply drop the original. It costs alot of money to market these new bullets. The AccuBond is a success because you have rumors constantly of how the ballistic tip explodes on big game and the AccuBond has put this to sleep.


As for the TSX,I've killed several elk with them,and have been in on several other elk when they were shot with tsx,along with a number of antelope and deer. The TSX is a better design by far. I've still seen inconsistency in exspansion at 30/06 velocities on game,especially antelope and two seperate elk. The exit wounds were only slightly larger then .308 diameter. and were talking under 200 yards. The internal damage wasn't all that impressive and far differant from previous hits with the same combo. I've never ever had a problem with the Partition. Personally I think lead is a known commodity with charateristics that lend itself well to exspansion. Copper isn't as consistant. The best way I've found to reliably get exspansion in the barnes,is to run light bullets at fast impact speeds. Copper has to expand at those violent impact velocities.

I've honestly shot partitions in the 06 out to 500 yards and have had the same results on paper as I've had with ballistic tips. I still don't like the smashed tips,but thats been more mental then anything.

 

[marvin sloan]

I used 180 gr. protected point partitions in my 30-06 on my plains game safari to South Africa in March of this year. Performance was excellent on all game from springbok to kudu and gemsbok. The only problem I noticed was the mushrooming of the tips in the magazine from recoil. Two of the bullet that spent several shots in the bottom of the magazine were deformed out to about 1/8" to 3/16" from the recoil. The load was 57.5 grains IMR-4831, not a really hot load. I plan on shooting them on the range to check accuracy. Overall I am sold on Nosler Partitions and will continue to use them on everything from deer to elk. But I do plan on giving the ABs a thourough test before this fall.

 

[Glock Man]

I have definately heard a lot of requests for a Partition with a poly tip and also a bonded core Partition. We have had a design for them for a while now, but as it sits, it is not feesible to produce such a bullet at this time. Too cost prohibitive. Don't ask for a bonded core PT. It just doesn't work. Tip deformation is not that big of a deal with a PT in my opinion. We have cut the tips off and they still shoot the same. Also the lead tends to move when it is traveling at 3000 fps. You never know what will be added to our product line though. Our engineers are always looking for ways to advance our technology.

 

[Savage99]

I am into those plastic meplats myself. A partitiions meplat will flatten out when carried in a plastic ammo box let alone when it's #2 in the magazine.

One would think that Nosler considered a plastic meplat for the Partition before doing the AccuBond?

The new Scirocco 11 has a black meplat. Anyone tried those?

 

[Brad]

I have definately heard a lot of requests for a Partition with a poly tip and also a bonded core Partition. We have had a design for them for a while now, but as it sits, it is not feesible to produce such a bullet at this time. Too cost prohibitive. Don't ask for a bonded core PT. It just doesn't work. Tip deformation is not that big of a deal with a PT in my opinion. We have cut the tips off and they still shoot the same. Also the lead tends to move when it is traveling at 3000 fps. You never know what will be added to our product line though. Our engineers are always looking for ways to advance our technology.

Mosler3, thanks for the input.

Frankly, my 30-06 and 300 WSM shoot the 180 Partition so well and they're such a reliable bullet the deformed tip gripe is largely picking the smallest of nits. I played around with the TSX's, like them a bunch, but have come back to the Partition... in the end it's a known performer. Bonded bullets have no interest to me... the Partition works perfectly as designed.