QL 35 Whelen

Code:
Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.088 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 21.0 inch = 533.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   81    46.40   2081    2164   28966   6938     87.4    1.426
-18.0   83    47.56   2132    2272   30890   7167     88.6    1.388
-16.0   85    48.72   2184    2383   32919   7391     89.8    1.352
-14.0   87    49.88   2235    2497   35060   7609     91.0    1.316
-12.0   89    51.04   2287    2613   37336   7822     92.0    1.280
-10.0   91    52.20   2339    2733   39762   8027     93.1    1.243
-08.0   93    53.36   2391    2855   42348   8225     94.0    1.207
-06.0   95    54.52   2442    2980   45106   8414     94.9    1.172
-04.0   97    55.68   2494    3108   48047   8595     95.7    1.138
-02.0   99    56.84   2546    3238   51187   8766     96.5    1.106  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    58.00   2597    3370   54540   8926     97.1    1.075  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  103    59.16   2649    3505   58125   9076     97.8    1.045  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  105    60.32   2700    3643   61960   9214     98.3    1.016  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  107    61.48   2752    3783   66068   9339     98.8    0.988  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  109    62.64   2803    3925   70473   9452     99.2    0.960  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  111    63.80   2854    4069   75201   9551     99.5    0.934  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    58.00   2722    3703   65302   8833     99.9    0.997  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    58.00   2432    2955   44204   8587     90.5    1.177
 
Code:
Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 250, Nosler PART SP 44801
Useable Case Capaci: 59.664 grain H2O = 3.874 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 21.0 inch = 533.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   84    46.40   2084    2411   33785   7196     91.9    1.408
-18.0   86    47.56   2134    2529   36070   7408     92.9    1.369
-16.0   89    48.72   2185    2650   38508   7611     93.9    1.328
-14.0   91    49.88   2236    2775   41111   7807     94.9    1.288
-12.0   93    51.04   2286    2901   43889   7994     95.7    1.249
-10.0   95    52.20   2337    3031   46857   8172     96.5    1.212
-08.0   97    53.36   2387    3162   50029   8339     97.2    1.177  ! Near Maximum !
-06.0   99    54.52   2437    3297   53421   8495     97.8    1.142  ! Near Maximum !
-04.0  101    55.68   2487    3434   57051   8639     98.4    1.109  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0  103    56.84   2537    3573   60940   8771     98.9    1.077  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0  105    58.00   2587    3714   65109   8890     99.2    1.047  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  108    59.16   2636    3858   69584   8995     99.6    1.017  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  110    60.32   2685    4003   74394   9086     99.8    0.988  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  112    61.48   2735    4151   79571   9162     99.9    0.961  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  114    62.64   2783    4301   85152   9223    100.0    0.934  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  116    63.80   2832    4452   91178   9270    100.0    0.908  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    58.00   2690    4015   77691   8561    100.0    0.975  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    58.00   2441    3307   52916   8811     94.6    1.141  ! Near Maximum !
 
I may be wrong but I think if you would use a faster powder in that short barrel you might see better results.
 
truck driver":37npec48 said:
I may be wrong but I think if you would use a faster powder in that short barrel you might see better results.

Don't fight it buddy. Find all of the RL15 you can. You'll thank us later.
 
SJB358":1jtjnvzv said:
truck driver":1jtjnvzv said:
I may be wrong but I think if you would use a faster powder in that short barrel you might see better results.

Don't fight it buddy. Find all of the RL15 you can. You'll thank us later.
What scotty said...x2..Lee :grin:
 
Can't help with the quickload but I have always read that the powder that produces the best velocity in a long barrel will have the highest velocity in a short barrel. RL15 seems to be the ticket in the 35 Whelen.
 
HeathSexton":2xbvmphu said:
Can't help with the quickload but I have always read that the powder that produces the best velocity in a long barrel will have the highest velocity in a short barrel. RL15 seems to be the ticket in the 35 Whelen.

Same here Heath. I tried the fast powder short barrel deal a couple of times, not enough to really prove anything but it always turned out the slower powder was still fastest in a short barrel.
 
SJB358":umks17cr said:
truck driver":umks17cr said:
I may be wrong but I think if you would use a faster powder in that short barrel you might see better results.

Don't fight it buddy. Find all of the RL15 you can. You'll thank us later.

+3

JD338
 
Here are QL results for a 24-inch barrel and a 16-inch barrel.

Code:
Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.088 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 58015 psi, or 400 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 114 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17                 109.0     65.5     4.24    2809    99.2    58015    8409   1.108  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350                      114.0     65.2     4.23    2768    97.7    57975    8099   1.129  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550                    110.9     64.8     4.20    2765    97.5    58015    8191   1.126  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP                          114.0     64.5     4.18    2759    97.6    57701    8080   1.123  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter                     114.0     67.4     4.37    2754    95.5    57860    8232   1.121  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760                     108.0     65.4     4.24    2753    94.7    58015    8171   1.122  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414                       108.0     65.4     4.24    2753    94.7    58015    8171   1.122  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon CFE223                      97.4     62.1     4.03    2750    99.1    58015    7799   1.124  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Big Game                   103.1     62.9     4.07    2744    98.7    58015    7778   1.124  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895                           102.6     58.7     3.80    2738    98.9    58015    7792   1.137  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2                       97.9     61.1     3.96    2732    99.5    58015    7663   1.137  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old                      105.9     61.3     3.97    2731    99.4    58015    7656   1.144  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 748                      95.3     58.7     3.80    2729    99.9    58015    7398   1.130  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B                         103.9     59.5     3.85    2727    98.9    58015    7695   1.138  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031                           103.6     55.4     3.59    2726   100.0    58015    6993   1.133  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15                 103.3     59.1     3.83    2724    98.5    58015    7712   1.139  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064                      106.2     59.4     3.85    2717   100.0    58015    7206   1.164  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4895                       99.5     56.9     3.69    2710    99.2    58015    7514   1.142  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520                       98.2     59.3     3.84    2709   100.0    58015    7197   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Wild Boar                   97.8     59.8     3.88    2709    98.8    58015    7549   1.136  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380                       104.5     61.1     3.96    2706    97.2    58015    7701   1.143  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320                           105.1     59.1     3.83    2703    98.7    58015    7420   1.126  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495                      100.0     56.0     3.63    2699   100.0    58015    6897   1.171  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204                          111.9     66.1     4.28    2696    91.5    58015    7870   1.127  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N540                    102.7     59.4     3.85    2686   100.0    58015    7129   1.143  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H335                        90.5     56.5     3.66    2684   100.0    58015    6993   1.141  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant AR-Comp                     98.5     54.5     3.53    2684   100.0    58015    6447   1.139  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 202                          100.4     56.5     3.66    2683   100.0    58015    6982   1.146  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530                     95.7     55.1     3.57    2682    99.6    58015    7199   1.142  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350                           113.0     64.3     4.17    2678    93.7    58015    7564   1.133  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET                     105.3     58.3     3.78    2677    98.2    58015    7362   1.137  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N150                    113.2     61.1     3.96    2676    99.7    58015    7116   1.142  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 201                          100.8     56.5     3.66    2674    99.6    58015    7199   1.157  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H322                        95.8     53.2     3.45    2674   100.0    58015    6747   1.139  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 8208 XBR                        97.8     56.0     3.63    2673    99.5    58015    7118   1.143  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064                           106.2     57.4     3.72    2671    98.4    58015    7234   1.141  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot TAC                         97.1     59.9     3.88    2667    96.5    58015    7427   1.145  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2460                       93.5     57.6     3.73    2666    99.9    58015    6987   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N135                    109.8     57.0     3.69    2664   100.0    58015    6533   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N140                    102.5     57.5     3.73    2657   100.0    58015    6700   1.146  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                114.0     63.1     4.09    2655    98.3    52767    7430   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       93.0     57.6     3.73    2654    99.2    58015    7004   1.154  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC                       105.5     61.3     3.97    2653    93.8    58015    7444   1.150  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot X-Terminator                94.7     57.9     3.75    2653    98.6    58015    7128   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350                      114.0     63.8     4.14    2649    93.1    56031    7495   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  95.5     55.7     3.61    2644   100.0    58015    6585   1.146  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39             90.1     52.7     3.42    2634   100.0    58015    6169   1.164  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-10x                 93.1     50.3     3.26    2630   100.0    58015    6315   1.160  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Benchmark                   96.5     54.4     3.52    2630    99.8    58015    6757   1.150  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2200                       88.0     51.2     3.32    2624   100.0    58015    6576   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2015                       95.9     52.5     3.40    2622   100.0    58015    6263   1.165  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780             114.0     68.8     4.46    2610    90.0    54717    7481   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                           89.3     50.0     3.24    2608   100.0    58015    6144   1.176  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19                 114.0     65.2     4.23    2608    89.7    50557    7804   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate LT-32                      98.5     52.7     3.42    2601   100.0    58015    6169   1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831                           114.0     62.5     4.05    2599    95.8    47778    7612   1.225
Accurate 2700                      105.2     62.8     4.07    2598    93.3    58015    6952   1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N133                    101.7     53.3     3.45    2596   100.0    58015    6058   1.154  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP                          114.0     68.1     4.41    2594    89.5    45993    8344   1.234
Accurate 1680                       80.6     48.2     3.12    2590   100.0    58015    6103   1.153  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4198                            92.3     47.4     3.07    2583   100.0    58015    5839   1.148  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N130                     95.8     51.2     3.32    2581   100.0    58015    5965   1.162  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4198                       89.2     47.9     3.11    2579   100.0    58015    6037   1.149  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-7                   87.2     48.3     3.13    2574   100.0    58015    5903   1.167  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 5744                       77.1     42.2     2.73    2568   100.0    58015    5939   1.152  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 296                      68.7     42.2     2.74    2555   100.0    58015    5727   1.175  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC                       114.0     67.0     4.34    2552    84.7    48529    7775   1.216
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   114.0     66.0     4.27    2537    85.4    50021    7325   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227                       83.6     43.8     2.84    2523   100.0    58015    5445   1.162  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560                    114.0     66.7     4.32    2523    83.3    44392    7892   1.261
Vihtavuori N120                     90.1     47.1     3.05    2522   100.0    58015    5392   1.174  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N125                     85.1     45.3     2.93    2517   100.0    58015    5386   1.174  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4227                            83.1     43.5     2.82    2515   100.0    58015    5418   1.161  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22                 114.0     66.0     4.27    2515    86.5    43443    7828   1.271



Code:
Cartridge          : .35 Whelen
Bullet             : .358, 225, Nosler PART SP 44800
Useable Case Capaci: 62.088 grain H2O = 4.031 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 16.0 inch = 406.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 58015 psi, or 400 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 114 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17                 109.0     65.5     4.24    2547    96.4    58015   13734   0.860  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350                      114.0     65.2     4.23    2513    94.3    57975   13176   0.877  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550                    110.9     64.8     4.20    2507    94.1    58015   13192   0.874  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP                          114.0     64.5     4.18    2504    94.1    57701   13061   0.871  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon CFE223                      97.4     62.1     4.03    2501    96.7    58015   12765   0.871  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031                           103.6     55.4     3.59    2497   100.0    58015   11922   0.879  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Big Game                   103.1     62.9     4.07    2496    95.9    58015   12708   0.870  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760                     108.0     65.4     4.24    2496    90.5    58015   13067   0.868  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414                       108.0     65.4     4.24    2496    90.5    58015   13067   0.868  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter                     114.0     67.4     4.37    2496    91.4    57860   13140   0.868  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 748                      95.3     58.7     3.80    2490    98.4    58015   12327   0.876  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895                           102.6     58.7     3.80    2489    96.4    58015   12732   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2                       97.9     61.1     3.96    2486    97.5    58015   12584   0.882  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old                      105.9     61.3     3.97    2484    97.3    58015   12604   0.889  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B                         103.9     59.5     3.85    2480    96.3    58015   12575   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064                      106.2     59.4     3.85    2480    99.6    58015   12241   0.909  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15                 103.3     59.1     3.83    2477    95.7    58015   12568   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520                       98.2     59.3     3.84    2473    99.0    58015   12103   0.892  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495                      100.0     56.0     3.63    2471   100.0    58015   11770   0.914  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant AR-Comp                     98.5     54.5     3.53    2470   100.0    58015   10972   0.881  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4895                       99.5     56.9     3.69    2467    97.0    58015   12318   0.885  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Wild Boar                   97.8     59.8     3.88    2465    96.2    58015   12308   0.879  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320                           105.1     59.1     3.83    2464    96.0    58015   12117   0.869  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380                       104.5     61.1     3.96    2459    93.8    58015   12433   0.886  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H335                        90.5     56.5     3.66    2453    99.4    58015   11704   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N540                    102.7     59.4     3.85    2452    99.3    58015   11837   0.885  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 202                          100.4     56.5     3.66    2452    99.4    58015   11710   0.888  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H322                        95.8     53.2     3.45    2450    99.8    58015   11397   0.880  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530                     95.7     55.1     3.57    2446    97.8    58015   11855   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204                          111.9     66.1     4.28    2446    86.8    58015   12425   0.868  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N135                    109.8     57.0     3.69    2446   100.0    58015   11140   0.889  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N150                    113.2     61.1     3.96    2442    98.0    58015   11747   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 8208 XBR                        97.8     56.0     3.63    2439    97.6    58015   11735   0.883  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET                     105.3     58.3     3.78    2438    95.4    58015   11923   0.877  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 201                          100.8     56.5     3.66    2438    97.7    58015   11861   0.897  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064                           106.2     57.4     3.72    2435    95.7    58015   11804   0.881  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2460                       93.5     57.6     3.73    2435    98.4    58015   11659   0.900  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350                           113.0     64.3     4.17    2434    89.6    58015   12072   0.873  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N140                    102.5     57.5     3.73    2433    99.6    58015   11290   0.885  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot TAC                         97.1     59.9     3.88    2426    93.1    58015   11939   0.884  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39             90.1     52.7     3.42    2425   100.0    58015   10481   0.901  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-12                  95.5     55.7     3.61    2423    99.8    58015   11088   0.884  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2230                       93.0     57.6     3.73    2423    97.1    58015   11555   0.893  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot X-Terminator                94.7     57.9     3.75    2419    96.1    58015   11621   0.887  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-10x                 93.1     50.3     3.26    2417   100.0    58015   10672   0.897  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC                       105.5     61.3     3.97    2411    89.7    58015   11869   0.888  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                114.0     63.1     4.09    2411    95.1    52767   12111   0.906  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                       95.9     52.5     3.40    2409   100.0    58015   10635   0.901  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350                      114.0     63.8     4.14    2406    88.8    56031   11923   0.888  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   96.5     54.4     3.52    2404    98.2    58015   11169   0.886  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2200                       88.0     51.2     3.32    2403    99.0    58015   10969   0.885  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 200                           89.3     50.0     3.24    2399   100.0    58015   10416   0.911  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate LT-32                      98.5     52.7     3.42    2390   100.0    58015   10432   0.892  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N133                    101.7     53.3     3.45    2389   100.0    58015   10274   0.887  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4198                            92.3     47.4     3.07    2382   100.0    58015    9875   0.880  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 1680                       80.6     48.2     3.12    2381   100.0    58015   10307   0.886  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N130                     95.8     51.2     3.32    2376   100.0    58015   10076   0.894  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4198                       89.2     47.9     3.11    2371    99.7    58015   10214   0.881  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-7                   87.2     48.3     3.13    2371   100.0    58015    9966   0.898  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2700                      105.2     62.8     4.07    2367    89.3    58015   11135   0.891  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780             114.0     68.8     4.46    2365    85.0    54717   11725   0.893  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 5744                       77.1     42.2     2.73    2365   100.0    58015    9898   0.882  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 296                      68.7     42.2     2.74    2357   100.0    58015    9632   0.905  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19                 114.0     65.2     4.23    2353    84.4    50557   12165   0.925  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           114.0     62.5     4.05    2345    91.5    47778   12145   0.956
Hodgdon H4227                       83.6     43.8     2.84    2332   100.0    58015    9166   0.888  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N120                     90.1     47.1     3.05    2332   100.0    58015    9116   0.900  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N125                     85.1     45.3     2.93    2327   100.0    58015    9093   0.900  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4227                            83.1     43.5     2.82    2325   100.0    58015    9120   0.886  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP                          114.0     68.1     4.41    2320    83.2    45993   12815   0.963
Hodgdon H110                        70.3     43.2     2.80    2300   100.0    58015    8913   0.909  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC                       114.0     67.0     4.34    2294    78.4    48529   11926   0.942
 
There's not a whole heck of a lot of difference there in terms of the order of powders arranged by velocity yield. That's because powder does not burn the entire length of the barrel, it will mostly burn during the first few inches of bullet travel. In the two pressure curves depicted here, you can see that pressure falls very quickly and by the time the bullet has moved less than 16 inches it has fallen to the point that the powder will have quit burning properly (remember the principle of progressive burning).



 
One of these times I'll learn to keep my big mouth shut and just listen and learn you guys are amazing. :mrgreen:
 
muleman":32375mvq said:
Jake,
Your not looking at that SS M70 on another forum are you? :twisted:
Scott


Scott,

Why would a guy do that? Actually I am but I'm at the point now that I'm trying to justify putting it in the safe and I ran into a practicality issue as it does nothing my 338-06AI doesn't do already. So I wanted to see some data to sell me on the Whelen and it didn't sale me. So unless someone can sale me I think I'll pass on it.

Jake
 
nvbroncrider":feak0ynh said:
muleman":feak0ynh said:
Jake,
Your not looking at that SS M70 on another forum are you? :twisted:
Scott


Scott,

Why would a guy do that? Actually I am but I'm at the point now that I'm trying to justify putting it in the safe and I ran into a practicality issue as it does nothing my 338-06AI doesn't do already. So I wanted to see some data to sell me on the Whelen and it didn't sale me. So unless someone can sale me I think I'll pass on it.

Jake

Your right Jake! If I had 338-06 it would have to be a pretty special Whelen that would turn my head. I like 24" barrels myself. I have a M70 Supergrade in 30-06 that wants to be bored out and express sights added. That will be a nice 338/35 Whelen someday.
Scott
 
muleman":29ah9hzb said:
nvbroncrider":29ah9hzb said:
muleman":29ah9hzb said:
Jake,
Your not looking at that SS M70 on another forum are you? :twisted:
Scott


Scott,

Why would a guy do that? Actually I am but I'm at the point now that I'm trying to justify putting it in the safe and I ran into a practicality issue as it does nothing my 338-06AI doesn't do already. So I wanted to see some data to sell me on the Whelen and it didn't sale me. So unless someone can sale me I think I'll pass on it.

Jake

Your right Jake! If I had 338-06 it would have to be a pretty special Whelen that would turn my head. I like 24" barrels myself. I have a M70 Supergrade in 30-06 that wants to be bored out and express sights added. That will be a nice 338/35 Whelen someday.
Scott

Now if it was an 06 with a 24" barrel I could get it bored out and chambered in 9.3X62 which is a step up and very justified. I guess I just gotta keep my eyes open and wait.
 
I hope you find that 9.3x62 donor Jake. Be cool to see a few of them around here.
 
This information couldn't have come at a better time. Net week I'll be getting my first Whelen and have the 225 and 250 gr Partition bullets on the way as well...thanks! Now, to find similar data for cast bullets in similar weight.
 
We're all looking forward to your data. Should be fun. You'll be infected with a permanent grin, no doubt. That Whelen and the 7 Mauser is just a great acquisition.
 
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