QL data needed for 300WM/240 Woodleigh & 240W/87 HP?

[preacher]

Big extremes here, ha. In a 24" barreled 300WM, which suggested QL data/powder will give only 2400fps/Woodleigh 240gr with the fullest case?

Then, also in a 24" barrel, 240 Weatherby, what are some good powders/speeds for the Hornady 87 HP & Sierra 85 HP? Thank you so much!!!

 

[frankm]

Not a temp stable powder but I worked up to 53 grs of IMR4831 ( look in Nosler manual; it's their accuracy charge with IMR4831 and max velocity also) with an 87 VMax and in my 24" Vanguard shot .750-.800" 3 shot groups. Guessing it's do well with 87 BTSP too.

 

[frankm]

BTW, velocity a smudge over 3400 fps.

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

I shoot the 240 wby and 87g vmax with 56g rl22. Good for 3525fps and 3/4 MOA from the 24" vanguard.

 

[frankm]

That's moving the mail with that 87 AMax ! S/B flat as a lazer.

 

[preacher]

Thanks guys, that gets me started on the 240W. I still need a 300WM load of 2400 or 2500 at the muzzle with the 240 Woodleigh. Since it is made for 30-06 speeds its not designed for faster than 2400 on impact. I am still cruising load dat for any 230-250 gr but they have faster starting loads, as a rule. I need Quick Load help!!!

 

[gbflyer]

I’ve had good experience emailing Woodleigh for data. Usually takes a couple of days to get a reply.

 

[DrMike]

Don't have a "240 grain Woodleigh" in my data base. However, I'll provide you with a summary of what can be done with the 220 Woodleigh.

Cartridge          : .300 Win. Mag.(SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 220, Woodleigh RN WeldCore 65C
Useable Case Capaci: 81.542 grain H2O = 5.294 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63250 psi, or 436 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

30 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        109.8     87.9     5.70    2945    98.6    63250   15631   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    105.9     84.0     5.44    2925    98.3    63250   15274   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  109.1     88.9     5.76    2922    99.0    63250   15059   1.233  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 107.7     87.9     5.69    2915    98.5    63250   15111   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    109.7     82.9     5.37    2888   100.0    63250   13298   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        109.7     82.9     5.37    2888   100.0    63250   13298   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        105.0     78.9     5.11    2856   100.0    63250   13572   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        105.0     78.9     5.11    2856   100.0    63250   13572   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 99.8     80.1     5.19    2856   100.0    63250   13342   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   99.7     80.0     5.18    2854   100.0    63250   13308   1.239  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     97.0     74.5     4.83    2852    99.8    63250   13616   1.244  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     97.3     77.7     5.04    2849    99.2    63250   13826   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26                  93.9     75.9     4.92    2849   100.0    63250   12857   1.261  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           95.1     74.6     4.83    2842   100.0    63250   13031   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           101.4     74.0     4.80    2842    99.9    63250   13152   1.234  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        95.9     74.0     4.80    2842    99.9    63250   13152   1.234  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 102.7     76.8     4.98    2839   100.0    63250   12554   1.244  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        101.0     78.8     5.11    2836   100.0    63250   12905   1.227  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   92.4     74.0     4.80    2836   100.0    63250   12644   1.237  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        106.2     79.0     5.12    2834   100.0    63250   12870   1.227  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      106.2     79.0     5.12    2834   100.0    63250   12870   1.227  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       110.0     85.4     5.53    2832    98.8    58017   14525   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         97.0     73.7     4.78    2832    99.9    63250   13073   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     81.4     5.28    2829   100.0    58424   13597   1.299  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 110.0     89.4     5.79    2827    97.1    57191   15159   1.320  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   108.5     86.9     5.63    2824    93.3    63250   13967   1.230  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  97.3     73.9     4.79    2823   100.0    63250   12943   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        97.3     73.9     4.79    2823   100.0    63250   12943   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        97.3     73.9     4.79    2823   100.0    63250   12943   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         99.9     74.3     4.81    2823   100.0    63250   12974   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      99.9     74.3     4.81    2823   100.0    63250   12974   1.251  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       100.8     77.2     5.01    2811    99.1    63250   13106   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      97.2     79.5     5.15    2806   100.0    63250   12362   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       98.6     73.6     4.77    2801    99.8    63250   12804   1.249  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         94.0     70.3     4.56    2788   100.0    63250   12308   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  94.5     71.1     4.60    2786   100.0    63250   12369   1.245  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          95.2     71.6     4.64    2780   100.0    63250   12290   1.246  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    109.1     81.1     5.26    2773    96.9    63250   13063   1.260  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    95.9     72.9     4.72    2773    99.7    63250   12405   1.242  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       99.8     72.9     4.72    2773    99.7    63250   12405   1.242  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 90.9     70.5     4.57    2773   100.0    63250   11941   1.253  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                  99.3     73.0     4.73    2769   100.0    63250   11606   1.264  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      90.2     70.0     4.53    2767   100.0    63250   11833   1.254  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           92.8     69.7     4.52    2766   100.0    63250   12086   1.245  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         92.8     69.7     4.52    2766   100.0    63250   12086   1.245  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         106.0     85.7     5.55    2754    93.9    63250   12886   1.249  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.0     87.4     5.67    2752    89.8    57803   14395   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  91.3     66.8     4.33    2752   100.0    63250   11332   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        94.7     71.9     4.66    2748   100.0    63250   11749   1.266  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              93.5     74.1     4.80    2746   100.0    63250   11808   1.252  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       93.7     69.5     4.50    2745    99.9    63250   11895   1.245  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                    97.3     71.2     4.61    2743    99.7    63250   12028   1.242  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        90.5     69.1     4.47    2737   100.0    63250   11530   1.258  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     99.8     74.2     4.81    2737   100.0    63250   11526   1.257  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    100.1     72.1     4.67    2731    99.8    63250   11702   1.248  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        91.1     68.1     4.41    2730   100.0    63250   10972   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         103.0     73.2     4.75    2728   100.0    63250   11359   1.284  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       97.4     73.2     4.75    2728   100.0    63250   11359   1.284  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        92.9     74.4     4.82    2722    99.6    63250   11759   1.255  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            94.1     67.7     4.39    2722   100.0    63250   11077   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                   101.9     75.8     4.91    2705    95.1    63250   11974   1.243  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     110.0     88.1     5.71    2694    91.1    54685   13470   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 92.0     66.9     4.34    2693   100.0    63250   10462   1.265  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      110.0     83.9     5.44    2689    87.0    54601   13565   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem 12.7-0                     110.0     85.4     5.53    2635    86.6    54601   12575   1.322  ! Near Maximum !

 

[DrMike]

Data for the 240W & 87 gr HDY BTHP:

Cartridge          : .240 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .243, 87, Hornady BTHP 2442
Useable Case Capaci: 59.971 grain H2O = 3.894 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.100 inch = 78.74 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63250 psi, or 436 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

15 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                  99.4     59.1     3.83    3565   100.0    63250   14609   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 108.4     59.6     3.86    3547   100.0    63250   14210   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          100.5     58.0     3.76    3543    99.7    63250   14750   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   97.5     57.4     3.72    3541    99.9    63250   14350   1.035  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    102.3     57.8     3.74    3537    97.5    63250   15033   1.044  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                104.9     61.9     4.01    3532    98.4    63250   14749   1.039  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  104.8     61.8     4.01    3532    98.5    63250   14728   1.039  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       101.1     57.4     3.72    3530    98.0    63250   14616   1.033  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           106.8     57.4     3.72    3530    98.0    63250   14616   1.033  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    110.0     64.1     4.15    3527    93.4    60123   16048   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   91.3     52.9     3.43    3521   100.0    63250   13250   1.039  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    102.4     60.2     3.90    3518    96.2    63250   15037   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        102.1     57.0     3.70    3514    97.8    63250   14458   1.031  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        110.0     60.8     3.94    3514    98.2    61851   14984   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        110.0     60.8     3.94    3514    98.2    61851   14984   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       102.6     57.3     3.71    3512    98.9    63250   14507   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       102.6     57.3     3.71    3512    98.9    63250   14507   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 102.6     57.3     3.71    3512    98.9    63250   14507   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        105.3     57.6     3.73    3510    98.8    63250   14513   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     105.3     57.6     3.73    3510    98.8    63250   14513   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        105.8     60.7     3.93    3501    98.2    63250   14240   1.031  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            90.3     52.4     3.39    3494   100.0    63250   13166   1.045  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  90.3     52.4     3.39    3494   100.0    63250   13166   1.045  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     102.2     61.5     3.99    3487    99.4    63250   13853   1.045  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 105.0     56.8     3.68    3480   100.0    63250   13184   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      103.8     57.0     3.69    3477    97.4    63250   14141   1.047  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         99.0     54.4     3.53    3477    98.7    63250   13812   1.035  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16                  96.7     52.1     3.37    3473   100.0    63250   13040   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  99.5     55.0     3.57    3472    98.8    63250   13868   1.043  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 95.8     54.7     3.55    3470    99.8    63250   13586   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       105.6     59.5     3.86    3468    95.9    63250   14145   1.035  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 92.0     54.2     3.51    3468    99.9    63250   13506   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      95.1     54.3     3.52    3466    99.9    63250   13486   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   93.6     54.2     3.51    3465   100.0    63250   13278   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         100.2     55.4     3.59    3464    98.8    63250   13763   1.043  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        96.6     53.1     3.44    3453   100.0    63250   12586   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      110.0     60.2     3.90    3452    97.7    60582   14079   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        110.0     60.2     3.90    3452    97.7    60582   14079   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           94.7     51.8     3.36    3449   100.0    63250   12982   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           94.5     53.9     3.50    3449    98.6    63250   13542   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           97.6     53.9     3.50    3449    98.6    63250   13542   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         97.6     53.9     3.50    3449    98.6    63250   13542   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          94.8     51.8     3.36    3449   100.0    63250   12978   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     92.1     52.0     3.37    3448   100.0    63250   13112   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       93.9     51.9     3.36    3443   100.0    63250   12967   1.070  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      104.8     56.3     3.65    3442    97.2    63250   13627   1.040  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   100.7     56.3     3.65    3442    97.2    63250   13627   1.040  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 110.0     66.0     4.27    3433    92.8    56506   15518   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        99.7     55.7     3.61    3429    99.4    63250   13284   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            99.4     52.6     3.41    3427   100.0    63250   12702   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        95.2     53.5     3.46    3424    99.5    63250   13092   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       98.5     53.7     3.48    3420    97.9    63250   13219   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              98.1     57.2     3.71    3416    98.7    63250   13145   1.048  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                          94.6     51.7     3.35    3412    99.7    63250   12916   1.058  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         108.5     56.7     3.68    3410    99.9    63250   12924   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      102.6     56.7     3.68    3410    99.9    63250   12924   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    104.8     57.3     3.72    3410    99.2    63250   12952   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron                   102.1     54.9     3.56    3408    97.4    63250   13218   1.041  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 97.2     52.0     3.37    3404   100.0    63250   12008   1.053  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    105.0     55.7     3.61    3396    97.8    63250   12948   1.045  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       92.6     50.3     3.26    3396    99.3    63250   12739   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          92.6     50.3     3.26    3396    99.3    63250   12739   1.049  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          93.6     50.6     3.28    3390   100.0    63250   12464   1.056  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        90.2     48.8     3.16    3388   100.0    63250   12048   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        110.0     61.1     3.96    3379    99.0    52970   14601   1.127
Hodgdon Retumbo                    110.0     61.1     3.96    3379    99.0    52970   14601   1.127
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  110.0     66.0     4.27    3378    92.6    53797   15302   1.125
Somchem S361                        97.3     57.3     3.71    3375    97.2    63250   12880   1.054  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        110.0     64.8     4.20    3353    90.0    53541   15479   1.117
Lovex D100                         110.0     65.4     4.24    3345    88.4    62166   13244   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron                   106.3     58.1     3.77    3327    90.3    63250   12596   1.044  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   110.0     64.8     4.20    3308    85.3    56553   13775   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          110.0     59.9     3.88    3263    96.9    46834   14622   1.209
Vihtavuori N170                    110.0     60.2     3.90    3255    90.3    55057   13222   1.134  ! Near Maximum !

 

[preacher]

Thank you Sir! I'm thinking I will wait and just use these 240gr out of a 30-06, like they were designed to be! I have a new box of 200 Partition, and you were kind enough to post those loads. You sir, are a 'Scholar and a Gentleman".

PS, if you had to choose, which rifle/caliber/bullet for elk in timber, up to 300yds (when they are on the opposite ridge: 338 RCM in a 20" Ruger ss, or a Remington 700 Classic in 35 Whelen?

 

[DrMike]

PS, if you had to choose, which rifle/caliber/bullet for elk in timber, up to 300yds (when they are on the opposite ridge: 338 RCM in a 20" Ruger ss, or a Remington 700 Classic in 35 Whelen?

Either would work just fine for you. You wouldn't go wrong with either of those rifle/cartridge combinations.

 

[preacher]

Thank you sir. So far, I've been enjoying this CA Mesa in 300WM like nobodies business, ha. Its a fine rifle, and the main one I will be using from now on out. I keep "hoping" when my only grandson turns 18 that he will want to start hunting with me. His liberal mama hasn't even allowed me to take him to the desert and shoot a .22! I will ask him, not her, on his 18th what "he" wants to do! ha and I'd like to have a spare he can use w/o hurting him/being obnoxious to shoot. Thanks again pard. Rev Jim