QL for 340 wby and Reloader 26

[Ridgegoat90]

Hello fellas,

I am new on the forum and would appreciate some help. You already helped me once with the 77 grain 220 swift loads that a friend asked for. Thanks! That is how I found out about this forum.

I cannot find any loads listed anywhere for reloader 26 in a 340 weatherby. I am shooting 300 grain bullets. Nosler custom competition to be exact. Could someone possibly run this through QL please? Until I decide to fork over the dough for QL myself, I am pretty high and dry on this one. :?

 

[JD338]

Ridgegoat90,

Welcome to the forum. The 300 gr bullets out of your 340 Wby will make for a potent long range round.
Don't overlook Retumbo and IMR7828SSC.
One of the fellas with QL will be along shortly.

JD338

 

[DrMike]

Welcome to the forum, Ridgegoat90. The Nosler Custom Competition is not in the data base for QL at this time. This is a projection using the 300 grain AB, which may help.

Cartridge          : .340 Weath. Mag.
Bullet             : .338, 300, Nosler AccuBond 54851
Useable Case Capaci: 79.931 grain H2O = 5.190 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.675 inch = 93.35 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-26

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   78    62.16   2149    3076   30915   8822     99.1    1.870
-18.0   80    63.71   2202    3229   33141   8998     99.5    1.820
-16.0   82    65.27   2254    3385   35538   9150     99.8    1.773
-14.0   84    66.82   2306    3544   38123   9278    100.0    1.720
-12.0   86    68.38   2358    3704   40911   9385    100.0    1.665
-10.0   88    69.93   2409    3865   43922   9487    100.0    1.612
-08.0   90    71.48   2459    4029   47177   9587    100.0    1.561
-06.0   92    73.04   2509    4194   50699   9684    100.0    1.512
-04.0   94    74.59   2558    4360   54480   9777    100.0    1.465  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    76.15   2608    4529   58531   9867    100.0    1.420  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    77.70   2656    4700   62891   9954    100.0    1.377  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  100    79.25   2705    4873   67588  10037    100.0    1.335  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    80.81   2753    5048   72655  10116    100.0    1.295  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  104    82.36   2801    5226   78128  10191    100.0    1.256  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  106    83.92   2849    5407   84049  10261    100.0    1.219  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  108    85.47   2897    5590   90465  10328    100.0    1.183  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    77.70   2745    5020   78521   9562    100.0    1.271  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    77.70   2518    4222   48320  10532    100.0    1.523

 

[Ridgegoat90]

Ridgegoat90,

Welcome to the forum. The 300 gr bullets out of your 340 Wby will make for a potent long range round.
Don't overlook Retumbo and IMR7828SSC.
One of the fellas with QL will be along shortly.

JD338

I built this 340 with that in mind. I got great groups with 7828 ssc but the velocity was the slowest across all loadings. I want to do the 2000 yard match and with the velocity the 7828 is giving i will be going subsonic at 1700.

 

[Ridgegoat90]

I was hoping 26 would be a bit faster than that... grrr

 

[jimbires]

looks like about 17 FPS difference . here is a powder list from highest velocity to slowest .


Cartridge : .340 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .338, 300, Nosler CC HPBT 53515
Useable Case Capaci: 80.472 grain H2O = 5.225 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.675 inch = 93.35 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63840 psi, or 440 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

19 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
PB Clermont PCL 517 104.1 82.4 5.34 2669 100.0 63840 10379 1.346 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 103.9 82.3 5.33 2668 100.0 63840 10352 1.346 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 98.2 78.4 5.08 2668 100.0 63840 10026 1.368 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 101.1 76.6 4.97 2664 99.9 63840 10620 1.357 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 101.4 80.0 5.18 2663 99.5 63840 10806 1.362 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 99.3 76.8 4.98 2657 100.0 63840 10160 1.364 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 99.9 76.1 4.93 2651 100.0 63840 10209 1.348 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 96.4 76.2 4.94 2647 100.0 63840 9841 1.349 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 104.9 80.8 5.24 2640 100.0 63840 10010 1.342 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 101.0 75.7 4.91 2639 100.0 63840 10173 1.346 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 105.0 75.7 4.90 2636 100.0 62591 10185 1.359 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR 104.1 76.4 4.95 2636 100.0 63840 10108 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 104.1 76.4 4.95 2636 100.0 63840 10108 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 101.4 76.0 4.93 2636 100.0 63840 10080 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 101.4 76.0 4.93 2636 100.0 63840 10080 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 101.4 76.0 4.93 2636 100.0 63840 10080 1.365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 101.3 81.8 5.30 2621 100.0 63840 9600 1.358 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 104.7 79.2 5.13 2618 99.3 63840 10243 1.349 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 102.6 75.6 4.90 2610 99.9 63840 9953 1.367 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 77.5 5.02 2603 100.0 59225 9691 1.397 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 97.7 72.1 4.67 2594 100.0 63840 9553 1.359 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 98.3 72.9 4.73 2594 100.0 63840 9615 1.366 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 99.0 73.5 4.76 2588 100.0 63840 9554 1.367 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 103.7 75.2 4.87 2584 100.0 63840 9035 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 82.1 5.32 2582 96.7 52312 11516 1.466
Hodgdon H4831 SC 99.6 74.7 4.84 2580 99.8 63840 9650 1.363 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 103.6 74.7 4.84 2580 99.8 63840 9650 1.363 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 90.8 71.8 4.65 2578 100.0 63840 9207 1.375 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 93.8 71.9 4.66 2577 100.0 63840 9195 1.375 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 96.3 71.5 4.63 2572 100.0 63840 9376 1.368 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 96.3 71.5 4.63 2572 100.0 63840 9376 1.368 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 93.3 71.5 4.63 2572 100.0 63840 9376 1.368 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 92.3 71.7 4.65 2569 100.0 63840 8977 1.389 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP30 105.0 77.9 5.05 2561 99.8 54777 10394 1.457 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 105.0 77.9 5.05 2561 99.8 54777 10394 1.457 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385 98.5 73.8 4.78 2557 100.0 63840 9110 1.388 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 97.1 75.9 4.92 2554 100.0 63840 9173 1.373 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 90.7 68.8 4.46 2550 100.0 63840 8912 1.388 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 97.3 71.1 4.61 2549 99.9 63840 9220 1.371 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 93.3 68.5 4.44 2547 100.0 63840 8775 1.385 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 93.4 68.5 4.44 2547 100.0 63840 8773 1.385 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 103.7 76.1 4.93 2546 100.0 63840 8928 1.379 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 94.0 70.8 4.59 2544 100.0 63840 8936 1.383 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 95.1 70.1 4.55 2543 100.0 63840 8502 1.392 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 92.4 68.6 4.44 2542 100.0 63840 8702 1.403 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 101.4 75.2 4.88 2540 100.0 63840 8804 1.404 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 103.9 73.9 4.79 2537 99.9 63840 9071 1.374 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 97.9 69.6 4.51 2531 100.0 63840 8574 1.395 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S361 96.4 76.2 4.93 2529 99.7 63840 9139 1.381 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 93.3 68.5 4.44 2527 100.0 63840 8755 1.392 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 84.5 5.48 2516 96.1 48659 11251 1.515
Bofors RP7 91.3 66.5 4.31 2512 100.0 63840 8658 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 91.3 66.5 4.31 2512 100.0 63840 8658 1.386 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2217 105.0 77.0 4.99 2505 99.6 53343 9778 1.453
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 77.0 4.99 2505 99.6 53343 9778 1.453
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 95.8 68.7 4.45 2501 100.0 63840 8073 1.391 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 92.3 67.0 4.34 2500 100.0 63840 8417 1.394 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S071 105.0 73.7 4.77 2492 100.0 59420 8723 1.449 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 84.5 5.48 2477 96.1 46236 11120 1.547
ADI AR 2225 105.0 78.3 5.07 2474 100.0 46966 10062 1.536
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 78.3 5.07 2474 100.0 46966 10062 1.536
ADI AR 2218 105.0 83.0 5.38 2464 94.4 46196 11354 1.539
Lovex D100 105.0 83.8 5.43 2426 91.6 53269 9597 1.482
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 83.0 5.38 2413 89.3 48840 10090 1.520
Norma 217 105.0 76.7 4.97 2407 99.6 41863 10247 1.633
Hodgdon H870 105.0 80.4 5.21 2389 95.5 41778 10599 1.629
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 77.0 4.99 2379 94.1 48929 9512 1.556
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 84.2 5.46 2361 92.5 39315 10927 1.690
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 82.4 5.34 2306 84.4 41621 10144 1.693
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 83.0 5.38 2259 85.6 39867 9495 1.677
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 79.1 5.12 2257 81.5 40209 9478 1.671
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 79.6 5.16 2218 90.1 36727 9307 1.745
Accurate 8700 105.0 81.3 5.27 2197 89.2 35901 9293 1.748
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 83.8 5.43 2179 85.8 34567 9393 1.786
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 79.6 5.16 2165 87.2 34514 9088 1.787
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 76.2 4.94 1988 63.0 32143 7203 1.859
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 76.2 4.94 1970 67.5 30218 7548 1.907
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 76.2 4.94 1412 31.2 16764 3553 2.497

 

[SJB358]

Jim, how would Retumbo look if you set it for 3.7" COAL and 112% fill or maybe 115% just for grins?

 

[jimbires]

Jim, how would Retumbo look if you set it for 3.7" COAL and 112% fill or maybe 115% just for grins?

looks to be about 2700FPS at 114% case fill


Cartridge : .340 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .338, 300, Nosler CC HPBT 53515
Useable Case Capaci: 81.035 grain H2O = 5.262 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.700 inch = 93.98 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Hodgdon Retumbo

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 91 68.56 2140 3050 30809 9148 97.1 1.856
-18.0 94 70.27 2198 3217 33053 9382 98.0 1.802
-16.0 96 71.99 2255 3388 35475 9589 98.8 1.750
-14.0 98 73.70 2313 3562 38094 9768 99.4 1.697
-12.0 100 75.42 2370 3740 40926 9917 99.8 1.638
-10.0 103 77.13 2426 3922 43995 10035 100.0 1.583
-08.0 105 78.84 2483 4105 47324 10123 100.0 1.530
-06.0 107 80.56 2538 4292 50942 10205 100.0 1.479
-04.0 110 82.27 2593 4480 54880 10282 100.0 1.430 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 112 83.99 2648 4671 59172 10354 100.0 1.383 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 114 85.70 2702 4865 63861 10422 100.0 1.337 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 116 87.41 2757 5062 68998 10485 100.0 1.293 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 119 89.13 2811 5262 74635 10543 100.0 1.251 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 121 90.84 2865 5466 80838 10595 100.0 1.210 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 123 92.56 2918 5674 87684 10641 100.0 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 126 94.27 2972 5886 95264 10681 100.0 1.132 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 114 85.70 2805 5240 79876 9959 100.0 1.233 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 114 85.70 2541 4300 50654 11025 99.4 1.477

 

[JD338]

What about RL33?

JD338

 

[jimbires]

What about RL33?

JD338

looks about 2740FPS


Cartridge : .340 Weath. Mag.
Bullet : .338, 300, Nosler CC HPBT 53515
Useable Case Capaci: 81.044 grain H2O = 5.262 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.700 inch = 93.98 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-33

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 90 72.72 2089 2908 29115 9269 86.5 1.903
-18.0 92 74.54 2152 3084 31354 9621 88.3 1.846
-16.0 94 76.36 2215 3268 33798 9960 89.9 1.790
-14.0 96 78.17 2279 3459 36461 10285 91.5 1.736
-12.0 99 79.99 2343 3657 39369 10594 92.9 1.675
-10.0 101 81.81 2408 3863 42554 10883 94.2 1.614
-08.0 103 83.63 2474 4076 46049 11151 95.4 1.555
-06.0 105 85.45 2539 4296 49892 11394 96.5 1.498
-04.0 108 87.26 2606 4523 54126 11612 97.4 1.443
-02.0 110 89.08 2672 4757 58806 11801 98.2 1.389 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 112 90.90 2739 4998 63993 11959 98.9 1.338 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 114 92.72 2806 5245 69763 12084 99.4 1.288 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 117 94.54 2873 5499 76201 12173 99.8 1.239 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 119 96.35 2941 5760 83421 12225 100.0 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 121 98.17 3008 6027 91543 12238 100.0 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 123 99.99 3075 6301 100739 12232 100.0 1.103 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 112 90.90 2891 5569 81652 11447 100.0 1.219 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 112 90.90 2521 4235 49727 11626 91.9 1.493

 

[jimbires]

he might be better off using something a little lighter , maybe a bullet in the 250 - 280 gr range

 

[SJB358]

Maybe a 250 Scenar.... Those suckers seem to work really well for the Brits, Canadians and Aussies.

 

[kraky1]

Was the gun built with any free bore? if it wasn't the quick load predictions are probably going to be pretty close..... if it's got free bore or the ability to hang bullets out you might be able to go considerably more than the prediction show.

 

[kraky1]

I just checked my records cause I knew I had played with some 300 in my Mark V. They were Sierra match Kings.
My gun has the normal weatherby free bore but I was using Remington brass... 300 Weatherby necked up to 340 which reduces case capacity some.... still my results are quite a bit slower than the above predictions. Quickload and Weatherby Factory rifles don't match up very well. All of my loads shot like crap apparently the twist was not enough... here were results for what it's worth.
78 grains i7828 2620 fps
77.5 re22 2560
82.5 magpro 2620

If I reset the quick load parameters to what actually happened on the chronograph and do a step up chart it says I would hit 2700 FPS with the above powders but I'd be right at 65 k.
Fwiw... My gun seems to be a pretty normal Weatherby 340 it's favorite bullet as the 250 Partition and I can push it up to 2930 maybe 2950 and that's it.... pressure signs start popping up.

 

[Ridgegoat90]

The problem with the 250s is that by the time you get out that far, the 300 is beating them.

 

[Ridgegoat90]

And I did build it with a little bit of freebore, not nearly as much as the factory weatherby. Custom ordered a reamer from ptg. Still enough to shoot the factory weatherby stuff safely. But i can seat the bullets a helluva lot closer to the landa for accuracy.

 

[kraky1]

There are a lot of crazy improved versions of the 338 Lapua out there. I'm not up to speed on what it would take to convert but "maybe" as simple as getting a chamber reamer job? (if the gun has been accurate) There's always a keyboard idiot like me telling people how they can spend their money....Lol.

 

[Ridgegoat90]

There are a lot of crazy improved versions of the 338 Lapua out there. I'm not up to speed on what it would take to convert but "maybe" as simple as getting a chamber reamer job? (if the gun has been accurate) There's always a keyboard idiot like me telling people how they can spend their money....Lol.

If I was so inclined i think I would just convert it to a 338 allen. That is IF I had money falling out of my ears lol. I already have a lot of brass and whatnot for this rifle. I designed it to be my 800 yard elk gun... the 2000 yard match is just me pushing its limits and having fun with it.

 

[kraky1]

A buddy of mine has one of his Wildcats based off the 338 Lapua. I think he's got a couple of different wild cats and I think my buddy got the milder version...... it's a tack driver. 340 wby brass is ez to sell.....lol!