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laylandad

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Can someone with QL tell if there is data for a .223/5.56 with a 62 gr Federal Fusion bullet, or can I use any 62 gr data?
 
The smallest Federal bullet listed is the .257 115 grain TBBC. I would be inclined to use the 62 grain data, working up with caution, watching for pressure signs.
 
Thanks, Dr. Mike.

I have found that the fusion is about the same as a Gold-Dot in terms of being electrically plated. Some on an AR15 forum suggest that they are essentially the same with the GD being 2 grains heavier. My Speer #14 shows neither bullet as a component but it does show a 62 gr FMJ. I will start low with that data and work my way up.
 
Not the federal fusion but Nosler 62 gr HP


Code:
Cartridge          : .223 Rem.
Bullet             : .224, 62, Nosler HP 35631
Useable Case Capaci: 26.120 grain H2O = 1.696 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

87 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Winchester 748                     102.8     26.6     1.73    3217    98.6    62000    8324   0.921  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223                     104.4     28.0     1.82    3216    96.9    62000    8570   0.920  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      108.5     25.5     1.66    3213   100.0    62000    7961   0.952  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp                    107.0     24.9     1.61    3211   100.0    62000    7439   0.920  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation      106.4     24.9     1.61    3211   100.0    62000    7439   0.920  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                      105.2     27.7     1.79    3208    97.8    62000    8488   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                           110.0     26.5     1.72    3203    96.5    60972    8600   0.935  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                       108.3     26.9     1.74    3196    99.1    62000    8143   0.936  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                      105.9     26.9     1.74    3196    99.1    62000    8143   0.936  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                      107.2     25.8     1.67    3192    97.1    62000    8376   0.932  ! Near Maximum !
Nitrochemie A/S 0300                94.9     23.5     1.52    3191   100.0    62000    7554   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                   110.0     28.2     1.83    3189    95.9    61066    8471   0.927  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                           110.0     24.8     1.60    3182    99.9    57599    8037   0.947  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                       107.4     25.9     1.68    3181    96.5    62000    8343   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                       103.7     24.2     1.57    3179    99.9    62000    7788   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         97.4     24.2     1.57    3179    99.9    62000    7788   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                  105.2     27.1     1.75    3178    96.4    62000    8315   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        97.6     25.7     1.66    3176    99.5    62000    7963   0.929  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202                          108.3     25.7     1.66    3175    99.5    62000    7959   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10                   97.3     25.0     1.62    3174    99.4    62000    7950   0.932  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507                104.2     26.2     1.70    3173    97.8    62000    8161   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223)        97.2     25.1     1.62    3173    99.4    62000    7938   0.932  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321                       102.2     26.5     1.72    3171    98.0    62000    8188   0.935  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9                   107.9     26.8     1.74    3167    96.4    62000    8228   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                    103.1     25.0     1.62    3166    97.9    62000    8077   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 40                   99.5     24.4     1.58    3161    99.6    62000    7797   0.931  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation         110.0     26.5     1.72    3161    95.4    59629    8423   0.946  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                       110.0     26.5     1.72    3161    95.4    59629    8423   0.946  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                 110.0     26.5     1.72    3161    95.4    59629    8423   0.946  ! Near Maximum !
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39             98.2     24.2     1.57    3159   100.0    62000    7154   0.941  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                    110.0     26.8     1.73    3155    99.4    61148    8011   0.938  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                       105.4     25.4     1.64    3153    97.8    62000    7978   0.931  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                          108.6     25.6     1.66    3152    97.8    62000    8059   0.944  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901                      106.8     24.4     1.58    3150    99.4    62000    7852   0.952  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516                107.7     27.6     1.79    3149    94.0    62000    8223   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                  110.0     27.6     1.79    3149    94.3    61959    8187   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                101.2     23.0     1.49    3149   100.0    62000    7343   0.939  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                         110.0     26.5     1.72    3147    95.9    58408    8390   0.954  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                      100.7     26.1     1.69    3146    98.5    62000    7872   0.947  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                       101.0     26.1     1.69    3146    98.5    62000    7872   0.947  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341                       105.9     27.4     1.78    3145    96.2    62000    7984   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                 103.0     25.3     1.64    3135    99.8    62000    7540   0.932  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        99.1     25.6     1.66    3131    98.5    62000    7738   0.944  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                    110.0     26.0     1.68    3131    99.6    61098    7618   0.938  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                      103.9     23.9     1.55    3129   100.0    62000    7256   0.945  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                           97.2     22.9     1.48    3127   100.0    62000    7162   0.953  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                   105.5     27.3     1.77    3126    93.9    62000    8031   0.940  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       99.9     26.0     1.69    3123    97.1    62000    7786   0.942  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                  110.0     27.4     1.77    3123    95.4    55823    8410   0.962  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                      110.0     25.5     1.65    3123    97.6    60723    7918   0.954  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         97.8     24.3     1.58    3121    98.4    62000    7685   0.935  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                        104.1     27.0     1.75    3118    93.2    62000    8048   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator               101.7     26.2     1.69    3117    96.2    62000    7867   0.938  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       95.0     23.2     1.51    3115    99.0    62000    7520   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation       106.1     25.4     1.64    3110    96.9    62000    7716   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2                             95.6     24.5     1.59    3110    98.4    62000    7610   0.936  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                  103.9     24.6     1.60    3108    98.3    62000    7613   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                           100.3     21.7     1.40    3105   100.0    62000    6821   0.925  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data     110.0     27.4     1.77    3101    93.6    59202    8044   0.952  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                         110.0     25.8     1.67    3099    97.2    57585    7988   0.969  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207                         95.6     21.5     1.39    3099   100.0    62000    6766   0.940  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       110.0     27.1     1.75    3098    93.1    57720    8212   0.964  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335                       107.7     25.4     1.64    3097    99.8    62000    7332   0.946  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                         106.7     25.0     1.62    3096    96.4    62000    7650   0.936  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133                    109.9     24.2     1.57    3093   100.0    62000    6988   0.935  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           110.0     26.1     1.69    3090    95.0    57133    7990   0.954  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-7                   94.7     22.1     1.43    3088   100.0    62000    6877   0.943  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation        95.8     22.4     1.45    3087    99.6    62000    7152   0.929  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                         110.0     26.8     1.73    3086    96.1    54178    8261   0.989
Norma 203 old                      110.0     26.8     1.73    3086    96.1    54178    8261   0.989
ADI AR 2206                        105.8     25.2     1.63    3085    96.9    62000    7555   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                  110.0     27.4     1.77    3084    94.4    54104    8324   0.976
Vihtavuori N130                    103.6     23.3     1.51    3084   100.0    62000    6901   0.941  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       96.5     21.8     1.41    3078    99.7    62000    7027   0.930  ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W                    98.7     23.2     1.51    3074   100.0    62000    6879   0.943  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      110.0     25.9     1.68    3074    98.9    52749    8086   1.019
ADI AR 2208                        110.0     25.7     1.67    3064    94.4    56978    7896   0.962  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                     110.0     25.6     1.66    3053    94.3    56323    7871   0.967  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4227                       90.9     20.0     1.30    3048   100.0    62000    6384   0.933  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N120                     98.2     21.6     1.40    3043   100.0    62000    6297   0.944  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                 110.0     27.8     1.80    3043    93.3    50093    8668   1.004
Elcho 17                           110.0     27.8     1.80    3043    93.3    50093    8668   1.004
Vihtavuori N125                     92.8     20.8     1.35    3042   100.0    62000    6314   0.944  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4227                            90.3     19.9     1.29    3036   100.0    62000    6351   0.932  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation       110.0     26.7     1.73    3026    89.6    57606    7708   0.957  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                  110.0     27.8     1.80    3024    93.7    48966    8786   1.014
IMR 4064                           110.0     25.0     1.62    3022    94.2    54576    7722   0.984
Hodgdon H414                       110.0     28.0     1.82    3014    87.5    51691    8222   0.999
Winchester 760                     110.0     28.0     1.82    3014    87.5    51691    8222   0.999
Somchem S355                       110.0     25.9     1.68    3008    94.8    51178    7975   1.016
IMR 4007 SSC                       110.0     26.9     1.74    3005    88.3    56536    7729   0.981  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S053                          91.8     19.8     1.28    3002   100.0    62000    6082   0.946  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                      110.0     26.2     1.70    2999    94.7    49764    8000   1.027
Accurate 2700                      110.0     27.6     1.79    2958    88.1    57810    7238   0.979  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation       110.0     26.3     1.71    2953    90.0    52665    7504   0.997
Vihtavuori N550                    110.0     27.1     1.75    2946    89.9    46317    8148   1.048
Vihtavuori N135                    110.0     24.0     1.56    2945    99.3    47444    7297   1.044
PB Clermont PCL 511                110.0     28.2     1.83    2936    87.0    47850    8066   1.034
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  110.0     27.8     1.80    2900    89.1    43664    8106   1.074
Rottweil R907                      110.0     26.0     1.68    2898    86.3    50244    7448   1.033
Bofors RP7                         110.0     26.0     1.68    2898    86.3    50244    7448   1.033
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  110.0     28.2     1.83    2872    85.4    45260    8090   1.060
Lovex S065                         110.0     25.9     1.68    2867    88.5    46895    7462   1.064
Norma URP                          110.0     26.2     1.70    2841    87.9    41954    7772   1.093
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         110.0     26.2     1.70    2840    87.8    41914    7766   1.094
Vihtavuori N150                    110.0     25.0     1.62    2825    94.0    42953    7261   1.090
Norma 204                          110.0     27.4     1.77    2823    80.9    45786    7396   1.061
Lovex S070                         110.0     26.2     1.70    2821    85.4    44052    7432   1.091
Ramshot Hunter                     110.0     27.4     1.77    2820    84.5    42526    7700   1.091
Accurate 4350                      110.0     26.5     1.72    2820    87.4    39800    7819   1.121
IMR 4350                           110.0     26.3     1.71    2799    83.7    44488    7176   1.076
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       110.0     26.9     1.74    2786    83.2    42558    7320   1.095
Somchem S365                       110.0     26.3     1.71    2758    89.8    37144    7811   1.152
Hodgdon H4350                      110.0     25.9     1.68    2740    82.2    41778    6991   1.107
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                110.0     25.6     1.66    2733    88.7    38645    7222   1.136
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          110.0     26.5     1.72    2714    78.4    40725    7047   1.118
Raufoss RA4                        110.0     26.5     1.72    2714    78.4    40725    7047   1.118
ADI AR 2209                        110.0     26.3     1.71    2673    76.6    39332    6952   1.136
Rottweil R904                      110.0     26.1     1.69    2673    76.9    40226    6717   1.128
Somchem S361                       110.0     28.2     1.83    2663    76.3    41409    6579   1.125
Alliant Reloder-19                 110.0     26.5     1.72    2658    76.8    37633    6999   1.159
IMR 4831                           110.0     25.4     1.64    2657    84.5    34590    7157   1.193
Winchester Supreme 780             110.0     27.9     1.81    2636    76.7    39583    6688   1.140
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         110.0     26.5     1.72    2629    76.2    36805    6859   1.171
Somchem S385                       110.0     26.8     1.73    2600    77.9    34623    6825   1.200
Norma MRP                          110.0     27.6     1.79    2578    73.8    33644    7177   1.217
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   110.0     26.8     1.73    2571    71.9    36983    6431   1.176
IMR 7828 SSC                       110.0     27.2     1.76    2552    69.1    35738    6597   1.193
ADI AR 2213                        110.0     26.8     1.73    2539    69.2    35378    6485   1.196
Vihtavuori N560                    110.0     27.1     1.75    2522    68.1    32861    6695   1.234
Raufoss RA15                       110.0     26.8     1.73    2518    71.5    32081    6735   1.237
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     26.8     1.73    2518    71.5    32081    6735   1.237
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     26.8     1.73    2518    71.5    32081    6735   1.237
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     28.2     1.82    2457    64.4    31589    6415   1.261
Rottweil R905                      110.0     26.3     1.70    2452    68.0    31252    6232   1.264
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     25.4     1.65    2450    71.6    32315    5901   1.243
NitroKemia REX 1/Red/28             90.4     11.6     0.75    2450   100.0    62000    3606   1.012  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     25.7     1.67    2448    68.7    32230    6000   1.243
Accurate 3100                      110.0     26.5     1.72    2435    75.7    28274    6420   1.313
Winchester WXR                     110.0     26.2     1.70    2434    69.0    29416    6398   1.282
Bofors RP15                        110.0     26.2     1.70    2434    69.0    29416    6398   1.282
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     27.0     1.75    2421    64.5    32246    5847   1.249
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     26.2     1.70    2417    72.3    30454    5980   1.271
 
I took the spec's from one of the bullets last weekend. See how it compares with the above (slight difference in case capacity):

Code:
Cartridge          : .223 Rem. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .224, 62, Federal Fusion SP.
Useable Case Capaci: 25.871 grain H2O = 1.680 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Winchester 748                     103.1     26.5     1.71    3212    98.5    62000    8258   0.921 
Hodgdon CFE223                     104.8     27.8     1.80    3210    96.8    62000    8498   0.921  
Hodgdon BL-C2                      105.0     27.3     1.77    3184    97.5    60705    8388   0.937 
Hodgdon H335                        97.9     25.5     1.65    3171    99.4    62000    7902   0.929  
Vihtavuori N530                    103.5     24.8     1.61    3160    97.8    62000    8010   0.930  
Ramshot TAC                        102.9     26.5     1.72    3160    96.5    62000    8139   0.932 
Accurate 2520                      105.0     26.4     1.71    3153    98.8    59262    8033   0.954  
Alliant AR-Comp                    105.0     24.2     1.57    3147   100.0    57350    7339   0.950
Accurate 2460                      101.1     25.9     1.68    3141    98.5    62000    7809   0.947  
IMR 8208 XBR                       105.0     25.0     1.62    3126    97.5    60544    7871   0.941 
Accurate 2230                       98.5     25.4     1.65    3126    98.4    62000    7675   0.944  
Accurate 2015                      104.3     23.8     1.54    3125   100.0    62000    7203   0.945  
Norma 200                           97.5     22.8     1.47    3124   100.0    62000    7110   0.953 
Hodgdon H4895                      105.0     25.0     1.62    3110    96.2    57045    8146   0.966  
Accurate 2495                      105.0     24.5     1.59    3096    99.9    54021    7848   1.011  
Norma 202                          105.0     24.6     1.60    3067    98.8    55079    7743   0.982  
IMR 4895                           105.0     25.0     1.62    3034    94.1    51165    8157   1.009

Bullet length: .8
Rear: .198
Taper: .046
BC (guess): .240
 
Thank you for the replies. I'm doing ladder loads with CFE223 and H335. Will post results when complete.
 
If you are using an AR, you can expect 50-100 fps less than forecasted due to the gas system. Also, a shorter barrel than modeled would make a big difference. Good luck!
 
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