QL please for 7-08

rmarshall

Handloader
Mar 10, 2010
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I have 3 7-08's. Actually there my kids guns! Awesome cartridge!! I have a bunch of 139 sst and some 139 interlock, I also have a couple pounds of Hunter powder, anybody tried it in a 7-08? Just wondering what or if it would work well. Cannot find any data for it. All guns sport a 22" tube. Thanks in advance
 
with a 139 SP , a max load is about 108% case fill . the 139 SST max load is about 109% case fill . this is a little more case fill than I care to work with , if I can avoid it . I usually try to be 105% case fill max . I use the 139BTSP bullet for deer hunting in my 7-08 , it seems to work well .

Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 139, Hornady SP 2820
Useable Case Capaci: 48.723 grain H2O = 3.164 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 87 40.16 2297 1628 30055 8125 86.2 1.432
-18.0 89 41.16 2358 1715 32154 8412 87.7 1.392
-16.0 91 42.17 2419 1805 34404 8692 89.1 1.353
-14.0 93 43.17 2480 1898 36823 8964 90.4 1.315
-12.0 95 44.18 2541 1994 39424 9226 91.7 1.274
-10.0 97 45.18 2603 2092 42221 9478 92.9 1.234
-08.0 100 46.18 2666 2193 45244 9718 94.0 1.194
-06.0 102 47.19 2728 2297 48500 9945 95.0 1.157
-04.0 104 48.19 2790 2403 52020 10158 96.0 1.120 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 106 49.20 2853 2513 55828 10355 96.8 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 108 50.20 2916 2624 59954 10535 97.6 1.051 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 110 51.20 2979 2739 64433 10697 98.2 1.018 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 52.21 3042 2855 69305 10840 98.8 0.987 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 115 53.21 3105 2975 74613 10962 99.2 0.956 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 117 54.22 3167 3096 80413 11062 99.6 0.926 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 119 55.22 3230 3220 86761 11140 99.8 0.897 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 108 50.20 3064 2898 72957 10369 100.0 0.971 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 108 50.20 2718 2279 48579 10106 90.6 1.154


Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 139, Hornady SST InterLock 28202
Useable Case Capaci: 47.897 grain H2O = 3.110 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 87 39.76 2292 1622 30101 8003 86.0 1.432
-18.0 89 40.75 2353 1709 32209 8286 87.5 1.392
-16.0 92 41.75 2414 1798 34474 8563 88.9 1.353
-14.0 94 42.74 2475 1891 36910 8831 90.3 1.315
-12.0 96 43.74 2537 1987 39532 9091 91.6 1.274
-10.0 98 44.73 2599 2085 42356 9340 92.8 1.233
-08.0 100 45.72 2661 2186 45401 9577 93.9 1.194
-06.0 102 46.72 2724 2290 48692 9801 94.9 1.156
-04.0 105 47.71 2787 2397 52249 10011 95.9 1.119 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 107 48.71 2850 2506 56103 10205 96.7 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 109 49.70 2913 2618 60283 10383 97.5 1.050 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 111 50.69 2976 2733 64825 10543 98.1 1.017 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 113 51.69 3039 2850 69769 10683 98.7 0.985 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 52.68 3102 2970 75165 10803 99.2 0.954 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 53.68 3165 3092 81031 10902 99.5 0.924 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 54.67 3228 3217 87540 10977 99.8 0.895 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 49.70 3061 2893 73383 10225 100.0 0.970 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 49.70 2714 2273 48850 9954 90.4 1.153



a powder chart for the SST bullet

Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 139, Hornady SST InterLock 28202
Useable Case Capaci: 47.897 grain H2O = 3.110 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60191 psi, or 415 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

2 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60 104.9 48.6 3.15 2980 100.0 60191 10491 1.036 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 104.1 48.2 3.12 2961 99.9 60191 10424 1.041 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Elcho 17 104.1 48.2 3.12 2961 99.9 60191 10424 1.041 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 103.0 48.1 3.12 2904 96.6 60191 10322 1.054 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 103.0 48.1 3.12 2904 96.6 60191 10322 1.054 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 105.0 49.4 3.20 2898 97.3 59206 10357 1.058 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 105.0 47.4 3.07 2890 98.7 59365 10187 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 100.6 44.9 2.91 2861 99.9 60191 9481 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 100.6 44.9 2.91 2861 99.9 60191 9481 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 102.9 44.9 2.91 2854 99.9 60191 9398 1.079 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 99.7 45.0 2.91 2849 98.5 60191 9662 1.073 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 102.7 44.4 2.87 2845 99.8 60191 9377 1.076 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 105.0 48.6 3.15 2838 97.8 53766 10189 1.108 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 100.5 43.4 2.81 2835 100.0 60191 8886 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6 95.4 43.4 2.81 2835 100.0 60191 8885 1.083 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 93.3 43.4 2.81 2835 100.0 60191 8885 1.083 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 7 94.0 44.5 2.89 2819 98.4 60191 9305 1.077 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495 94.6 40.9 2.65 2814 100.0 60191 8528 1.106 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 105.0 46.4 3.00 2811 98.1 53819 9914 1.124 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 104.4 45.2 2.93 2808 95.8 60191 9468 1.074 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 104.4 45.2 2.93 2808 95.8 60191 9468 1.074 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 101.1 45.3 2.93 2808 95.8 60191 9461 1.074 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 105.0 45.9 2.97 2803 97.9 53428 9856 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 105.0 45.9 2.97 2802 97.9 53375 9851 1.114 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 105.0 47.9 3.10 2797 96.0 52853 10043 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 105.0 45.4 2.94 2796 97.5 58399 9400 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 105.0 47.9 3.10 2795 93.0 55724 9837 1.089 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 94.2 39.5 2.56 2786 100.0 60191 8485 1.094 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 105.0 45.9 2.97 2773 95.9 55698 9558 1.113 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 105.0 47.1 3.05 2757 94.8 53690 9585 1.118 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 105.0 46.1 2.99 2755 99.5 47630 9720 1.162
ReloadSwiss RS 70 105.0 49.4 3.20 2749 93.4 49174 10351 1.142
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 105.0 44.8 2.91 2702 98.7 48725 9078 1.157
Raufoss RA4 105.0 46.4 3.00 2696 91.3 49843 9485 1.145
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.0 46.4 3.00 2696 91.3 49843 9485 1.145
Alliant Reloder-26 105.0 49.8 3.23 2673 93.8 41727 10662 1.229
ADI AR 2209 105.0 46.1 2.99 2667 90.3 47730 9498 1.163
Alliant Reloder-19 105.0 46.4 3.00 2653 90.3 46241 9523 1.183
Rottweil R904 105.0 45.7 2.96 2648 89.6 49144 9065 1.159
IMR 4831 105.0 44.4 2.88 2647 96.3 45190 9278 1.210
Somchem S361 105.0 49.4 3.20 2644 88.9 50909 8924 1.152
Winchester Supreme 780 105.0 48.9 3.17 2641 90.5 48134 9153 1.165
Norma MRP 105.0 48.4 3.13 2637 90.3 41981 10159 1.230
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 105.0 46.4 3.00 2625 89.8 45188 9365 1.197
Somchem S385 105.0 46.9 3.04 2610 91.5 44500 9226 1.218
IMR 7828 SSC 105.0 47.6 3.09 2597 85.6 43485 9539 1.213
Hodgdon H4831 SC 105.0 46.9 3.04 2576 86.1 44820 8968 1.203
Vihtavuori N560 105.0 47.4 3.07 2569 84.2 40659 9648 1.252
ADI AR 2213 105.0 46.9 3.04 2568 85.1 42796 9319 1.223
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 105.0 46.9 3.04 2560 87.4 39961 9541 1.263
Raufoss RA15 105.0 46.9 3.04 2560 87.4 39961 9541 1.263
Alliant Reloder-22 105.0 46.9 3.04 2560 87.4 39961 9541 1.263
Accurate MAGPRO 105.0 49.3 3.19 2524 81.1 39204 9434 1.278
Alliant Reloder-23 105.0 45.4 2.94 2499 93.9 36065 9277 1.320
Ramshot Magnum 105.0 50.5 3.27 2498 86.4 39678 9121 1.269
Rottweil R905 105.0 46.0 2.98 2490 83.7 38775 8904 1.285
Accurate 3100 105.0 46.4 3.00 2487 91.1 37758 8852 1.320
Bofors RP15 105.0 45.9 2.97 2479 85.3 36701 9172 1.315
Winchester WXR 105.0 45.9 2.97 2479 85.3 36701 9172 1.315
Hodgdon H4831 105.0 45.1 2.92 2460 83.4 39289 8478 1.280
Vihtavuori N160 105.0 44.4 2.88 2445 85.4 39619 8162 1.282
Vihtavuori N165 105.0 45.9 2.97 2440 87.3 37793 8360 1.306
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 105.0 47.3 3.06 2438 79.7 38775 8495 1.289
IMR 7828 105.0 45.1 2.92 2426 81.3 36130 8750 1.323
SNPE Vectan SP 12 105.0 49.5 3.21 2420 80.8 36262 8981 1.323
PB Clermont PCL 517 105.0 49.5 3.21 2414 80.4 36074 8950 1.326
Alliant Reloder-25 105.0 46.1 2.99 2402 87.0 33346 9093 1.365
ADI AP 2214 105.0 48.1 3.12 2395 80.0 36969 8500 1.316
Lovex S071 105.0 43.8 2.84 2325 87.4 31104 8221 1.426
Bofors RP30 105.0 46.4 3.00 2285 77.5 29502 8482 1.437
Norma MRP 2 105.0 46.4 3.00 2285 77.5 29502 8482 1.437
ADI AR 2217 105.0 45.9 2.97 2242 75.5 31177 7717 1.413
Hodgdon H1000 105.0 45.9 2.97 2242 75.5 31177 7717 1.413
Vihtavuori N570 105.0 48.9 3.17 2215 66.4 28825 8115 1.470
Hodgdon Retumbo 105.0 46.6 3.02 2159 74.1 26894 7791 1.500
ADI AR 2225 105.0 46.6 3.02 2159 74.1 26894 7791 1.500
Lovex D100 105.0 49.9 3.23 2149 64.5 30391 6831 1.456
Vihtavuori N170 105.0 45.9 2.97 2128 68.4 27206 7037 1.505
Alliant Reloder-33 105.0 50.3 3.26 2128 63.7 26825 7598 1.522
Vihtavuori 24N41 105.0 49.4 3.20 2103 59.5 28702 6722 1.490
ReloadSwiss RS 80 105.0 50.3 3.26 2069 61.6 25612 7225 1.555
ADI AR 2218 105.0 49.4 3.20 2057 56.1 26865 6634 1.530
Norma 217 105.0 45.7 2.96 2041 69.1 22721 7400 1.632
Hodgdon H870 105.0 47.9 3.10 2016 62.0 23337 6954 1.618
Hodgdon 50BMG 105.0 47.1 3.05 1948 52.1 23492 5992 1.623
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 105.0 49.0 3.18 1939 53.7 21037 6487 1.687
Hodgdon US 869 105.0 49.4 3.20 1934 54.5 23140 5983 1.637
Alliant Reloder-50 105.0 50.1 3.25 1914 55.6 20542 6624 1.701
SNPE Vectan SP 13 105.0 47.4 3.07 1887 57.7 20873 5955 1.707
Accurate 8700 105.0 48.4 3.13 1841 53.3 20881 5461 1.714
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 105.0 47.4 3.07 1833 54.3 19853 5600 1.747
Vihtavuori 20N29 105.0 49.9 3.23 1801 50.5 19570 5442 1.757
NC A3502 ,test only 105.0 45.4 2.94 1740 37.8 20335 4092 1.749
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 105.0 45.4 2.94 1713 40.0 18772 4250 1.803
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 105.0 45.4 2.94 1252 18.8 11271 2000 2.37
 
I've never had any great success with trying to take X powder and trying to make it work with a Y cartridge. Yeah, I usually got something that was Ok, but the effort was never really worth it. I'd just spring for a can of Varget &/or RL-15. You have three 7-08's, might as well put your money where it will pay the biggest dividends for the cartridge.

SST's....never was a fan. Too many bullet test here that resulted in slipped cores. The 139 gr Hornady has shown to work very well in a 7-08 though.

An extremely popular load is the 140gr BT/AB with Varget. Buy seconds from SPS and save a few $$. They're about the same price as Hornady's that way.

Good luck with whatever you choose.
 
Thanks jimbires, Gunner I agree there are better bullets than the SST, but I got 250 of them for 20 bucks, I might as well use them, I have had great luck with deer and the 6.5 version of them , never lost a deer very few have even taken a step. I have R17 and 414 that will probably be much better just wanted to see if Hunter could even work. Thanks all
 
I have used Hunter with 150 Nosler BTs with very good results. 2760 fps and 1.5" 220 yard group. My 140 gr. loads are with H4350.
 
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