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[Sas874runner]

I am considering working a new load for the 3006. And there has been shot of talk about powders lately. And shoot of info shows that rl22 and 7828ssc could be close to if not the same powder. Could someone run a quick load for me. Running a 165 part and 7828ssc. Curious to see if this could be done with good results. Thanks

 

[DrMike]

It would be a compressed load.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler PART SP 16330
Useable Case Capaci: 62.001 grain H2O = 4.026 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : IMR 7828 SSC

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   88    51.76   2226    1815   28518   8459     77.5    1.453
-18.0   90    53.05   2290    1921   30585   8823     79.3    1.413
-16.0   93    54.35   2354    2031   32821   9182     81.2    1.373
-14.0   95    55.64   2420    2146   35239   9537     82.9    1.335
-12.0   97    56.94   2487    2266   37858   9884     84.7    1.293
-10.0   99    58.23   2555    2391   40700  10222     86.3    1.249
-08.0  101    59.52   2623    2521   43787  10549     87.9    1.207
-06.0  104    60.82   2693    2656   47148  10863     89.4    1.165
-04.0  106    62.11   2763    2797   50811  11162     90.9    1.125
-02.0  108    63.41   2834    2942   54817  11443     92.3    1.086  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  110    64.70   2905    3093   59206  11705     93.5    1.048  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  112    65.99   2978    3249   64025  11944     94.7    1.012  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  115    67.29   3051    3410   69332  12160     95.8    0.976  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  117    68.58   3124    3576   75199  12350     96.7    0.942  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  119    69.88   3198    3748   81700  12510     97.6    0.908  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  121    71.17   3273    3925   88937  12640     98.3    0.876  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    110    64.70   3093    3506   71839  11917     98.9    0.962  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    110    64.70   2669    2611   48168  10770     83.7    1.158

There are other powders that would give you better results from a variety of parameters.

Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 165, Nosler PART SP 16330
Useable Case Capaci: 62.001 grain H2O = 4.026 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 107 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

6 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Elcho 17                            99.5     59.7     3.87    2940   100.0    59000   11141   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  99.5     59.7     3.87    2940   100.0    59000   11141   1.052  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       106.9     60.8     3.94    2920   100.0    59000   10647   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                100.9     61.4     3.98    2895    98.2    59000   11199   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     104.2     61.5     3.99    2893    98.2    59000   11182   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        98.4     59.5     3.85    2885    97.4    59000   11140   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      98.4     59.5     3.85    2885    97.4    59000   11140   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          103.8     58.7     3.80    2882    99.3    59000   10855   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         103.8     58.7     3.80    2881    99.3    59000   10852   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      103.3     59.0     3.82    2880    99.4    59000   10866   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    100.7     58.8     3.81    2879    99.2    59000   10963   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          106.3     60.7     3.94    2854    95.2    59000   10926   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        106.3     60.7     3.94    2854    95.2    59000   10926   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          102.9     60.7     3.94    2854    95.2    59000   10926   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                106.7     59.0     3.82    2854   100.0    59000   10081   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            93.3     53.3     3.45    2854    99.9    59000   10396   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        107.0     60.8     3.94    2851    95.0    57602   11067   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        94.1     53.8     3.48    2844    99.7    59000   10340   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  94.1     53.8     3.48    2844    99.7    59000   10340   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          94.1     53.8     3.48    2844    99.7    59000   10340   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          94.5     54.0     3.50    2843    99.9    59000   10275   1.079  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                          107.0     63.8     4.14    2842    95.6    51756   11860   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       103.8     60.2     3.90    2840    97.0    59000   10685   1.072  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       96.1     55.5     3.60    2838   100.0    59000   10143   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          96.1     55.5     3.60    2838   100.0    59000   10143   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 107.0     61.2     3.96    2832    94.9    55904   11087   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        95.4     55.7     3.61    2832    99.0    59000   10403   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       98.2     55.5     3.60    2832   100.0    59000   10067   1.090  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             106.8     64.4     4.17    2828    95.2    59000   10624   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         102.9     58.2     3.77    2826    97.5    59000   10543   1.083  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        98.1     54.9     3.56    2824   100.0    59000   10048   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      105.5     59.0     3.82    2820    96.6    59000   10420   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           103.6     58.9     3.81    2820    96.7    59000   10408   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      106.8     60.2     3.90    2818    94.0    59000   10547   1.065  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      94.9     56.0     3.63    2816    99.1    59000   10135   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           107.0     58.6     3.79    2813    99.1    55480   10522   1.107  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        91.0     53.6     3.47    2810   100.0    59000    9514   1.093  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         101.5     56.8     3.68    2808    98.4    59000   10220   1.084  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       95.8     53.5     3.47    2807   100.0    59000    9506   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         107.0     61.2     3.96    2803    94.5    54604   10921   1.097  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       107.0     62.8     4.07    2801    91.7    52953   11317   1.104  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                         100.1     56.2     3.64    2799    96.7    59000   10265   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      100.1     56.2     3.64    2799    96.7    59000   10265   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        97.0     56.2     3.64    2798    96.7    59000   10257   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       107.0     61.8     4.01    2791    95.9    55029   10684   1.111  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       90.1     50.4     3.26    2785   100.0    59000    9136   1.117  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                       93.8     51.7     3.35    2784   100.0    59000    9477   1.092  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       105.5     64.2     4.16    2779    92.9    59000   10252   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    107.0     62.5     4.05    2769    90.3    49552   11468   1.141
Rottweil R901                       90.0     48.9     3.17    2766   100.0    59000    9105   1.101  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        107.0     61.8     4.01    2765    91.1    51787   11067   1.116  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   107.0     61.8     4.01    2762    91.4    54308   10575   1.099  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 107.0     61.8     4.01    2753    92.9    48815   11240   1.151

 

[Sas874runner]

Thanks drMike. It sure would be compressed. I do have a couple pounds of 760. I may give that a try.

 

[DrMike]

Yeah, it would be compressed, but not beyond what I consider acceptable. I'm more focused on the fact that a number of other powders give you load ratios that I consider to be closer to optimal with corresponding velocity increases.

 

[Sas874runner]

7828ssc was more of a curiosity add to how efficient it would be in the 3006. I have have been putting off developing a load for my 3006 with the Partition due to the long throat of the rem 700. But with hunting season over it time to start working some new loads. Luckily the mag well is also very long. My starting col is gonna be 3.482" .010" off the lands