QL Update

DrMike

DrMike

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I just loaded the QL Update (dated 12 Jan 2014). I don't note a lot of newer powders, though Hodgdon CFE and Ramshot Wild Boar is on the disc. However, the 150 grain .277 Nosler ABLR, the 150 grain and the 168 grain .284 Nosler ABLR, the 190 grain and the 210 grain .308 Nosler ABLR and the .300 grain 338 Nosler AB are all in the data set. So, this should make for some interesting data generation.
 
No Powder Pro. However, I do note a number of new Swiss powders. Knowing that the Powder Pro series are manufactured in Switzerland, I suspect that one or more of these are repackaged in North America as the Powder Pro series. For instance, Elcho 17 is marketed here in North America as ReLoder 17. I must wonder if some of the Reload Swiss powders or Nitrochemie powders are marketed here under another name.
 
Nice! What are the chances you'd see what it predicts for the 190 and 210 lrab's in a 30-06 at 3.34" and at least 60k psi?
 
jason miller":2val1luc said:
Nice! What are the chances you'd see what it predicts for the 190 and 210 lrab's in a 30-06 at 3.34" and at least 60k psi?
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Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 190, Nosler AccuBond LR 58456 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 57.533 grain H2O = 3.736 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

7 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP                          109.8     60.8     3.94    2762    98.3    59000   11483   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   99.4     55.3     3.58    2748   100.0    59000   10318   1.118  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  102.2     57.7     3.74    2735    99.6    59000   10796   1.119  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  98.5     54.8     3.55    2728   100.0    59000   10258   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            98.5     54.8     3.55    2728   100.0    59000   10258   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       109.2     59.5     3.86    2708    95.0    59000   11028   1.120  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       105.8     55.8     3.62    2707   100.0    59000    9799   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    110.0     59.6     3.86    2700    94.2    56542   11317   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.8     56.0     3.63    2695    99.9    59000   10204   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        109.9     58.9     3.82    2692    94.8    59000   10892   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 99.9     56.4     3.66    2691    99.0    59000   10440   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     103.2     56.5     3.66    2690    98.9    59000   10425   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      97.4     54.6     3.54    2681    98.3    59000   10383   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        97.4     54.6     3.54    2681    98.3    59000   10383   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 107.7     57.1     3.70    2681    96.8    59000   10570   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     59.0     3.82    2680    96.3    55759   11012   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       110.0     59.0     3.82    2680    96.3    55759   11012   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     59.0     3.82    2680    96.3    55759   11012   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          102.7     53.9     3.49    2675    99.8    59000   10053   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        106.8     56.3     3.65    2674    96.5    59000   10463   1.125  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         108.4     57.5     3.73    2674    96.7    59000   10488   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     62.0     4.02    2674    92.0    55531   11235   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         102.7     53.9     3.49    2674    99.8    59000   10050   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      102.2     54.2     3.51    2673    99.8    59000   10047   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     99.7     54.0     3.50    2673    99.7    59000   10169   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     110.0     63.5     4.12    2667    96.8    57457   10593   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           107.8     54.8     3.55    2659    99.8    59000    9848   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          102.0     55.8     3.62    2656    96.5    59000   10253   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        105.3     55.8     3.62    2656    96.5    59000   10253   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          105.3     55.8     3.62    2656    96.5    59000   10253   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   94.7     51.9     3.36    2654   100.0    59000    9597   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       108.1     57.9     3.75    2652    97.7    59000   10171   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                105.5     54.1     3.51    2644   100.0    59000    9269   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            92.2     48.9     3.17    2643   100.0    59000    9557   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   108.5     58.2     3.77    2642    94.2    59000   10233   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       102.8     55.4     3.59    2640    98.0    59000    9982   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          93.0     49.3     3.20    2635   100.0    59000    9525   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  93.0     49.3     3.20    2635   100.0    59000    9525   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        93.0     49.3     3.20    2635   100.0    59000    9525   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             106.0     59.3     3.84    2634    96.4    59000    9995   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          93.5     49.6     3.21    2633   100.0    59000    9452   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       95.0     50.9     3.30    2628   100.0    59000    9320   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          95.0     50.9     3.30    2628   100.0    59000    9320   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        94.4     51.2     3.32    2627    99.6    59000    9637   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         101.9     53.4     3.46    2625    98.4    59000    9825   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       97.2     51.0     3.30    2623   100.0    59000    9244   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      104.5     54.2     3.51    2621    97.6    59000    9736   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      105.8     55.3     3.59    2620    95.3    59000    9905   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           102.6     54.1     3.51    2620    97.7    59000    9722   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        97.1     50.4     3.26    2616   100.0    59000    9239   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   92.7     51.2     3.32    2616    99.6    59000    9429   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      93.9     51.4     3.33    2612    99.6    59000    9383   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     57.9     3.75    2611    93.5    53973   10443   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         100.5     52.1     3.38    2605    99.1    59000    9495   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      110.0     58.3     3.78    2603    98.4    55354    9908   1.191  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     62.3     4.04    2602    93.4    51817   10865   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     57.7     3.74    2599    94.9    50736   10726   1.206
Winchester WXR                     110.0     57.7     3.74    2599    94.9    50736   10726   1.206
Rottweil R907                       99.1     51.6     3.34    2599    97.7    59000    9579   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          99.1     51.6     3.34    2599    97.7    59000    9579   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        96.0     51.6     3.35    2598    97.7    59000    9572   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        90.0     49.2     3.19    2598   100.0    59000    8725   1.170  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     62.3     4.04    2596    93.1    51529   10854   1.190  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       94.6     49.1     3.18    2594   100.0    59000    8715   1.188  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                       104.6     59.1     3.83    2589    94.2    59000    9665   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                           91.1     47.3     3.06    2582   100.0    59000    8800   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                       92.8     47.5     3.08    2575   100.0    59000    8693   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     56.7     3.67    2566    92.8    53710    9953   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     56.7     3.67    2557    92.2    49465   10465   1.214
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     59.5     3.85    2555    90.2    52704   10186   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       96.0     53.1     3.44    2553    97.4    59000    9015   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     60.6     3.92    2553    92.4    51580   10318   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     57.7     3.74    2543    95.9    52426    9614   1.199  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     58.0     3.76    2540    97.2    45793   10646   1.256
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     55.9     3.62    2532    93.9    53770    9460   1.189  ! Near Maximum !

Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 190, Nosler AccuBond LR 58456 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 57.533 grain H2O = 3.736 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   79    43.84   2193    2029   30564   8637     95.2    1.505
-18.0   81    44.94   2247    2131   32621   8880     96.2    1.466
-16.0   83    46.03   2302    2236   34818   9107     97.1    1.428
-14.0   85    47.13   2356    2343   37167   9318     97.9    1.391
-12.0   87    48.22   2411    2452   39681   9511     98.6    1.348
-10.0   89    49.32   2465    2563   42370   9686     99.1    1.307
-08.0   91    50.42   2518    2676   45252   9840     99.6    1.268
-06.0   93    51.51   2572    2790   48341   9973     99.8    1.230
-04.0   95    52.61   2625    2906   51656  10085    100.0    1.193  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   97    53.70   2677    3023   55216  10175    100.0    1.158  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    54.80   2729    3142   59043  10259    100.0    1.124  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  100    55.90   2780    3261   63164  10339    100.0    1.091  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    56.99   2831    3382   67607  10416    100.0    1.060  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  104    58.09   2882    3504   72400  10489    100.0    1.029  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  106    59.18   2932    3627   77582  10559    100.0    1.000  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  108    60.28   2982    3752   83190  10624    100.0    0.971  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    54.80   2832    3385   72167   9835    100.0    1.042  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    54.80   2570    2786   47713  10537     97.8    1.232

Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 210, Nosler AccuBond LR 58317 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 55.836 grain H2O = 3.625 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder             : Accurate MAGPRO

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   88    48.16   1998    1861   28192   8256     79.8    1.634
-18.0   90    49.36   2055    1969   30248   8587     81.6    1.589
-16.0   92    50.57   2113    2081   32471   8914     83.2    1.544
-14.0   95    51.77   2171    2198   34879   9236     84.8    1.500
-12.0   97    52.98   2231    2320   37490   9550     86.4    1.455
-10.0   99    54.18   2290    2446   40326   9854     87.9    1.406
-08.0  101    55.38   2351    2577   43410  10149     89.3    1.357
-06.0  103    56.59   2412    2713   46771  10431     90.7    1.311
-04.0  106    57.79   2474    2853   50438  10699     92.0    1.266
-02.0  108    59.00   2536    2999   54453  10951     93.2    1.222  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  110    60.20   2599    3149   58852  11186     94.3    1.180  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  112    61.40   2662    3304   63689  11402     95.3    1.139  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  114    62.61   2725    3464   69014  11597     96.3    1.099  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  117    63.81   2789    3628   74914  11768     97.1    1.061  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  119    65.02   2854    3798   81449  11915     97.9    1.024  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  121    66.22   2919    3973   88727  12035     98.5    0.987  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    110    60.20   2761    3556   73281  11293     99.1    1.079  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    110    60.20   2390    2664   46787  10424     85.1    1.309

Code: 
Cartridge          : .30-06 Spring.  (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .308, 210, Nosler AccuBond LR 58317 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 55.836 grain H2O = 3.625 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 59000 psi, or 406 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

9 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma MRP                          108.1     58.1     3.76    2630    99.0    59000   11133   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                    109.6     57.7     3.74    2609    96.0    59000   11180   1.175  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   97.8     52.8     3.42    2606   100.0    59000    9888   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                  100.6     55.2     3.58    2601    99.9    59000   10394   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                    110.0     60.2     3.90    2598    94.3    58807   11184   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation       110.0     57.2     3.71    2597    97.9    58977   10856   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                 110.0     57.2     3.71    2597    97.9    58977   10856   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                       110.0     57.2     3.71    2597    97.9    58977   10856   1.179  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  96.9     52.3     3.39    2587   100.0    59000    9825   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            96.9     52.3     3.39    2587   100.0    59000    9825   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                       107.7     56.9     3.69    2583    96.3    59000   10769   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                        108.5     56.4     3.66    2568    96.1    59000   10649   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                     109.2     61.2     3.97    2566    98.2    59000   10375   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       103.9     53.2     3.45    2563   100.0    59000    9382   1.192  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   99.1     53.4     3.46    2556   100.0    59000    9780   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 98.3     53.9     3.49    2556    99.5    59000   10079   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     101.6     54.0     3.50    2555    99.5    59000   10065   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                 106.1     54.6     3.54    2551    97.7    59000   10275   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        95.8     52.2     3.38    2547    99.0    59000   10032   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      95.8     52.2     3.38    2547    99.0    59000   10032   1.193  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                        105.3     53.9     3.49    2546    97.5    59000   10181   1.178  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation         106.8     55.0     3.56    2545    97.7    59000   10197   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          101.0     51.4     3.33    2537   100.0    59000    9651   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         101.0     51.4     3.33    2537   100.0    59000    9649   1.198  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     98.0     51.6     3.34    2537    99.9    59000    9774   1.203  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      100.4     51.7     3.35    2536   100.0    59000    9634   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  110.0     60.4     3.92    2533    95.7    54795   10809   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      110.0     56.2     3.64    2531    95.5    57048   10355   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                110.0     60.4     3.92    2528    95.5    54485   10805   1.212  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          100.4     53.4     3.46    2526    97.4    59000    9966   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          103.7     53.4     3.46    2526    97.4    59000    9966   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        103.7     53.4     3.46    2526    97.4    59000    9966   1.187  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                           106.1     52.3     3.39    2523   100.0    59000    9448   1.206  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                       106.4     55.4     3.59    2522    98.5    59000    9860   1.204  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        110.0     56.0     3.63    2521    96.7    53641   10617   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     110.0     56.0     3.63    2521    96.7    53641   10617   1.231  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                      110.0     56.6     3.67    2518    99.4    58915    9671   1.214  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                   107.0     55.7     3.61    2518    95.4    59000   10003   1.184  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52                   93.1     49.5     3.21    2515   100.0    59000    9184   1.202  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       101.2     52.9     3.43    2509    98.7    59000    9666   1.201  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780             104.5     56.7     3.67    2507    97.4    59000    9737   1.189  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                103.8     51.7     3.35    2505   100.0    59000    8871   1.196  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            90.7     46.7     3.02    2503   100.0    59000    9136   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                        91.5     47.1     3.05    2497   100.0    59000    9113   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                  91.5     47.1     3.05    2497   100.0    59000    9113   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation          91.5     47.1     3.05    2497   100.0    59000    9113   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                          92.0     47.3     3.07    2495   100.0    59000    9040   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         100.3     51.1     3.31    2494    99.0    59000    9495   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                      104.3     52.9     3.43    2493    96.4    59000    9646   1.194  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        92.9     48.9     3.17    2492    99.9    59000    9263   1.213  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4350                      103.0     51.8     3.36    2491    98.4    59000    9434   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           101.0     51.7     3.35    2490    98.5    59000    9418   1.197  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          93.4     48.6     3.15    2489   100.0    59000    8918   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       93.4     48.6     3.15    2489   100.0    59000    8918   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      110.0     55.0     3.57    2484    94.9    56500    9884   1.207  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       95.5     48.6     3.15    2484   100.0    59000    8841   1.222  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           110.0     55.0     3.57    2483    94.6    52100   10415   1.240  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        110.0     58.8     3.81    2482    94.8    54287   10285   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50                   91.3     48.9     3.17    2481    99.9    59000    9058   1.208  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       110.0     57.7     3.74    2479    92.6    55278   10180   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        95.5     48.1     3.12    2478   100.0    59000    8843   1.217  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data      92.5     49.1     3.18    2478    99.9    59000    9016   1.209  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          98.9     49.8     3.23    2474    99.6    59000    9154   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          97.7     49.3     3.20    2470    98.5    59000    9277   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       97.7     49.3     3.20    2470    98.5    59000    9277   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.6     49.4     3.20    2469    98.5    59000    9271   1.210  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 110.0     56.3     3.65    2467    98.8    48324   10473   1.281
Somchem S361                       103.2     56.6     3.67    2465    95.4    59000    9442   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    110.0     56.0     3.63    2461    97.5    55399    9477   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       92.9     46.8     3.03    2452   100.0    59000    8328   1.246  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                    110.0     54.3     3.52    2448    95.7    56554    9365   1.218  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                       91.4     45.3     2.94    2438   100.0    59000    8316   1.226  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                       94.6     50.8     3.29    2427    98.2    59000    8740   1.215  ! Near Maximum !
 
You are most welcome, Jason. Drop through Dawson Creek, and I'll spring for coffee. :grin:
 
The 190g ABLR could end up being the ultimate all round big game combo in concert with the 30-06. With a nice rifle and a rangefinder you've got just about anything short of dangerous game covered out to 600 yards if you're good enough.

Thanks for posting that data Mike.
 
muleman":3q3ltszg said:
I think it is time for me to invest in Q/L!

Scott
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It is well worth the money Scott. I really enjoy the program. I rate it higher than my Chronograph nowadays with the correct inputs.
 
boomer68":d98na9d4 said:
Could someone please run the 190 and 210 ABLR in the 300 RUM?

Thanks!
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Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet             : .308, 190, Nosler AccuBond LR 58456 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 99.982 grain H2O = 6.492 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.598 inch = 91.39 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N570

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   80    77.60   2458    2548   30852  11357     88.3    1.775
-18.0   82    79.54   2525    2691   33161  11756     90.0    1.730
-16.0   84    81.48   2594    2838   35657  12139     91.5    1.686
-14.0   86    83.42   2662    2990   38350  12504     93.0    1.635
-12.0   88    85.36   2731    3147   41275  12847     94.3    1.580
-10.0   90    87.30   2800    3307   44435  13166     95.5    1.527
-08.0   92    89.24   2869    3471   47816  13460     96.6    1.476
-06.0   94    91.18   2937    3639   51432  13726     97.5    1.427
-04.0   96    93.12   3005    3810   55321  13962     98.3    1.380  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    95.06   3073    3985   59505  14166     98.9    1.335  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    97.00   3141    4162   64010  14336     99.4    1.291  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  102    98.94   3208    4341   68864  14471     99.8    1.250  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104   100.88   3274    4522   74101  14568    100.0    1.209  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  106   102.82   3340    4706   79756  14629    100.0    1.170  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  108   104.76   3405    4890   85871  14677    100.0    1.133  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  110   106.70   3469    5077   92493  14719    100.0    1.097  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    97.00   3299    4593   78944  13786    100.0    1.180  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    97.00   2914    3581   49711  14046     93.7    1.440

Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet             : .308, 190, Nosler AccuBond LR 58456 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 99.982 grain H2O = 6.492 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.598 inch = 91.39 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

56 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        104.1    102.2     6.62    3181    99.8    64000   14617   1.263  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                     99.8     97.0     6.29    3141    99.4    64000   14335   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  102.7    102.7     6.65    3124    99.9    64000   13978   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 100.1    101.4     6.57    3121    99.6    64000   14089   1.297  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 105.7    105.4     6.83    3113    99.4    64000   14354   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       105.8    100.7     6.53    3108   100.0    64000   13665   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          105.6     95.8     6.21    3087   100.0    64000   12692   1.310  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        103.4     95.9     6.21    3086   100.0    64000   12360   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    103.4     95.9     6.21    3086   100.0    64000   12360   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     92.0     86.6     5.61    3081   100.0    64000   12852   1.282  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     92.2     90.3     5.85    3075    99.9    64000   13052   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                         99.2     91.4     5.93    3070   100.0    64000   12674   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                         99.2     91.4     5.93    3070   100.0    64000   12674   1.300  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            96.2     86.2     5.58    3070   100.0    64000   12416   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        91.0     86.2     5.58    3070   100.0    64000   12416   1.273  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 94.4     92.9     6.02    3066   100.0    64000   12454   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   94.3     92.7     6.01    3065   100.0    64000   12425   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         92.2     85.9     5.57    3061   100.0    64000   12360   1.269  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           90.1     86.6     5.61    3059   100.0    64000   12273   1.293  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 106.4    103.7     6.72    3055    94.1    64000   14138   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         95.8     91.7     5.94    3055   100.0    64000   12095   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      108.4    101.4     6.57    3053    92.7    64000   13763   1.287  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                      100.8     91.9     5.95    3053   100.0    64000   12060   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        100.8     91.9     5.95    3053   100.0    64000   12060   1.272  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   103.0    101.1     6.55    3052    95.9    64000   13388   1.279  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  92.4     86.0     5.58    3048   100.0    64000   12212   1.288  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        92.4     86.0     5.58    3048   100.0    64000   12212   1.288  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        92.4     86.0     5.58    3048   100.0    64000   12212   1.288  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      94.8     86.5     5.60    3047   100.0    64000   12233   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         94.8     86.5     5.60    3047   100.0    64000   12233   1.289  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  97.1     89.0     5.76    3043   100.0    64000   11792   1.290  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      110.0    105.8     6.86    3041    99.2    62980   12969   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   110.0    109.1     7.07    3039    97.9    63273   13414   1.314  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        95.9     90.1     5.84    3039    99.9    64000   12431   1.271  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     107.9    106.0     6.87    3037    96.0    64000   13376   1.295  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  110.0    103.6     6.71    3033    99.1    64000   12940   1.305  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       93.8     85.8     5.56    3033   100.0    64000   12136   1.284  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  90.1     83.1     5.38    3018   100.0    64000   11753   1.277  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      92.0     92.4     5.98    3013   100.0    64000   11576   1.296  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          90.8     83.7     5.42    3011   100.0    64000   11669   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       95.2     85.3     5.52    3008   100.0    64000   11810   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    91.5     85.3     5.52    3008   100.0    64000   11810   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    103.8     94.6     6.13    3001    98.6    64000   12467   1.301  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         100.8    100.0     6.48    2980    96.4    64000   12373   1.294  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0    103.6     6.71    2978    97.8    60027   12940   1.341  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        90.2     84.0     5.45    2974   100.0    64000   11159   1.298  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     95.7     84.5     5.48    2965   100.0    64000   11145   1.278  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     95.1     86.7     5.62    2958   100.0    64000   10914   1.292  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                          98.0     85.4     5.54    2944   100.0    64000   10768   1.319  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       92.7     85.4     5.54    2944   100.0    64000   10768   1.319  ! Near Maximum !

Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet             : .308, 210, Nosler AccuBond LR 58317 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 98.285 grain H2O = 6.381 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.598 inch = 91.39 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder             : Vihtavuori N570

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   78    74.96   2375    2630   31320  11445     90.3    1.838
-18.0   80    76.83   2439    2774   33638  11825     91.8    1.791
-16.0   82    78.71   2503    2922   36138  12188     93.2    1.746
-14.0   84    80.58   2568    3075   38840  12531     94.5    1.691
-12.0   86    82.46   2632    3231   41745  12853     95.7    1.636
-10.0   88    84.33   2697    3391   44833  13151     96.7    1.582
-08.0   90    86.20   2761    3554   48132  13422     97.6    1.530
-06.0   92    88.08   2825    3721   51668  13666     98.3    1.481
-04.0   94    89.95   2888    3890   55460  13881     99.0    1.433  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   96    91.83   2951    4062   59528  14064     99.4    1.387  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   98    93.70   3014    4236   63896  14214     99.8    1.343  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  100    95.57   3076    4412   68588  14330    100.0    1.301  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  102    97.45   3138    4590   73633  14411    100.0    1.260  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0  104    99.32   3198    4770   79064  14479    100.0    1.220  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  106   101.20   3258    4950   84916  14542    100.0    1.183  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  108   103.07   3318    5133   91231  14599    100.0    1.146  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     98    93.70   3157    4647   78474  13628    100.0    1.230  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     98    93.70   2806    3670   49779  14091     95.0    1.495

Code: 
Cartridge          : .300 Rem Ultra Mag
Bullet             : .308, 210, Nosler AccuBond LR 58317 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 98.285 grain H2O = 6.381 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.598 inch = 91.39 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

61 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218                        102.5     98.9     6.41    3060   100.0    64000   14489   1.312  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                     98.1     93.7     6.07    3016    99.8    64000   14217   1.342  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80                  101.0     99.3     6.43    3000   100.0    64000   13856   1.346  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                  98.5     98.1     6.36    2998    99.9    64000   13987   1.348  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50                 104.0    101.9     6.60    2992    99.8    64000   14276   1.376  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       104.1     97.4     6.31    2984   100.0    64000   13520   1.351  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217                          103.7     92.5     6.00    2956   100.0    64000   12532   1.362  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        101.6     92.6     6.00    2953   100.0    64000   12217   1.338  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    101.6     92.6     6.00    2953   100.0    64000   12217   1.338  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     90.5     83.7     5.43    2951   100.0    64000   12662   1.333  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     90.7     87.3     5.66    2948   100.0    64000   12886   1.343  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 104.8    100.4     6.51    2943    95.2    64000   14214   1.377  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      106.8     98.3     6.37    2941    93.9    64000   13863   1.335  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                         97.5     88.4     5.73    2941   100.0    64000   12503   1.352  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                         97.5     88.4     5.73    2941   100.0    64000   12503   1.352  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                            94.6     83.3     5.40    2939   100.0    64000   12229   1.325  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 92.9     89.8     5.82    2937   100.0    64000   12296   1.341  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41                   101.5     97.9     6.35    2937    96.9    64000   13429   1.328  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      108.8    102.8     6.66    2937    99.7    64000   12942   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   92.7     89.7     5.81    2936   100.0    64000   12267   1.341  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 20N29                   108.7    106.0     6.87    2935    98.7    64000   13457   1.357  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         90.7     83.1     5.39    2931   100.0    64000   12185   1.320  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                         94.2     88.6     5.74    2926   100.0    64000   11938   1.324  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     106.4    102.7     6.65    2925    96.9    64000   13433   1.345  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000                       99.1     88.8     5.76    2923   100.0    64000   11904   1.324  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                         99.1     88.8     5.76    2923   100.0    64000   11904   1.324  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  90.8     83.2     5.39    2917   100.0    64000   12040   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        90.8     83.2     5.39    2917   100.0    64000   12040   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        90.8     83.2     5.39    2917   100.0    64000   12040   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      93.3     83.6     5.42    2917   100.0    64000   12063   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         93.3     83.6     5.42    2917   100.0    64000   12063   1.340  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  108.4    100.3     6.50    2916    99.5    64000   12899   1.355  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520       110.0    101.8     6.60    2915    99.0    63679   13068   1.356  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation        94.4     87.2     5.65    2915   100.0    64000   12298   1.321  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                  95.4     85.9     5.57    2910   100.0    64000   11637   1.343  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       92.3     83.0     5.38    2905   100.0    64000   11957   1.336  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      90.5     89.3     5.79    2885   100.0    64000   11434   1.349  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170                    102.2     91.6     5.94    2883    99.1    64000   12418   1.351  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                       93.7     82.5     5.35    2881   100.0    64000   11646   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    90.1     82.5     5.35    2881   100.0    64000   11646   1.326  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                          99.4     97.0     6.28    2868    97.2    64000   12404   1.343  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160                     94.2     81.8     5.30    2839   100.0    64000   10991   1.330  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                     93.6     83.9     5.43    2832   100.0    64000   10770   1.344  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       91.2     82.6     5.35    2816   100.0    64000   10621   1.372  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                          96.4     82.6     5.35    2816   100.0    64000   10621   1.372  ! Near Maximum !
 
I downloaded the QL demo copy and am trying to figure out what it is actually doing for me? I am looking at the print outs and if I understand the data, this is simulating the chrony performance of a particular load, bullet powder brass etc. Is it an algorithm that is predicting performance or are the numbers actual measurements of loads against a chrony?
 
boomer68":19cfieu8 said:
Many thanks DrMike. Looks like RL33 is a good powder for the RUM..
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You are welcome. And if you find any RL33 here in Canada, let me know. I'll snag at least three pounds immediately.
 
C Broad Arrow":3bz6gc7a said:
I downloaded the QL demo copy and am trying to figure out what it is actually doing for me? I am looking at the print outs and if I understand the data, this is simulating the chrony performance of a particular load, bullet powder brass etc. Is it an algorithm that is predicting performance or are the numbers actual measurements of loads against a chrony?
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The projections are a mathematical calculation of ballistic performance. Knowing the burn rate, the bearing surface, the SAAMI (or CIP) standards, etc., the numbers are plugged into appropriate formulas to generate a profile. Many of the parameters are variable, so as you make your own measurements, you are able to tweak the calculations to generate more accurate projections. It is simply the application of mathematics and the standard laws of physics in a specific application.
 
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