QuickLoad questions thread...

[Levy257]

I have another one for quickload if you would be so kind.

264 win mag
26” barrel
Sierra 107 grain tipped match king

Run as the list of all the powders.

Thanks so much for your help

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .264 Win. Mag.
Bullet             : .264, 107, Sierra TMK MatchK 7407
Useable Case Capaci: 77.988 grain H2O = 5.064 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61600 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

38 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C               101.9     78.8     5.11    3630   100.0    61600   14828   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2218                        108.9     83.4     5.41    3624    96.8    61600   16189   1.124  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570 *C                 105.2     79.7     5.17    3612    96.5    61600   15901   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33 *C              106.9     83.3     5.40    3591    96.9    61600   15650   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Retumbo                    109.0     78.8     5.10    3588   100.0    61600   14182   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2225                        109.0     78.8     5.10    3588   100.0    61600   14182   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 217 *C                       111.6     79.0     5.12    3588   100.0    61600   14631   1.158  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H870                       111.5     82.8     5.36    3585    98.1    61600   15358   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C               104.2     81.3     5.27    3582    98.7    61600   15257   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-50 *C              111.5     86.7     5.62    3578    96.4    61600   15906   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8133 Enduron *C*T              112.0     78.7     5.10    3570    99.5    61600   14799   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-26 *C               93.5     72.3     4.68    3561   100.0    61600   13848   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560 *C                  96.5     70.9     4.60    3556    98.9    61600   14526   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        104.4     75.0     4.86    3551    99.5    61600   14474   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2 *C                     104.4     75.0     4.86    3551    99.5    61600   14474   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                 99.3     76.2     4.94    3551    99.6    61600   14229   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP *C                        94.7     71.0     4.60    3551   100.0    61600   14053   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                   99.1     76.1     4.93    3550    99.6    61600   14202   1.141  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           101.0     70.5     4.57    3550    99.2    61600   14116   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        95.5     70.5     4.57    3550    99.2    61600   14116   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25 *C              102.2     73.1     4.74    3549   100.0    61600   13494   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     96.8     74.0     4.79    3541    97.9    61600   14607   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate LRT                       109.3     83.5     5.41    3539    91.1    61600   15158   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         96.6     70.2     4.55    3537    99.2    61600   13991   1.126  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        100.4     75.0     4.86    3532    99.5    61600   13788   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 *T                   105.6     75.1     4.87    3529    99.5    61600   13747   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2217                        105.6     75.1     4.87    3529    99.5    61600   13747   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 *C               96.8     70.4     4.56    3527    99.7    61600   13926   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 *C                     96.8     70.4     4.56    3527    99.7    61600   13926   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        96.8     70.4     4.56    3527    99.7    61600   13926   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                         99.4     70.7     4.58    3525    99.7    61600   13941   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                      99.4     70.7     4.58    3525    99.7    61600   13941   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N565 *C                 100.9     74.5     4.83    3524    99.1    61600   14310   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                       98.2     70.1     4.54    3499    98.8    61600   13692   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation    100.2     73.5     4.76    3499    97.8    61600   13810   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      96.6     75.7     4.90    3498   100.0    61600   13272   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         93.7     67.0     4.34    3496    99.7    61600   13303   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19 *C               94.2     67.7     4.39    3490    99.7    61600   13344   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C                107.6     82.4     5.34    3485    90.9    61600   14307   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 111.5     84.8     5.50    3483    88.7    61600   15053   1.185  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          94.9     68.2     4.42    3482    99.7    61600   13247   1.138  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                 90.5     67.2     4.36    3481   100.0    61600   12944   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N555 *C*T                95.3     67.2     4.35    3473   100.0    61600   12648   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP36 ZT *C *T                98.3     69.1     4.48    3472   100.0    61600   12419   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23 *C *T            98.3     69.1     4.48    3472   100.0    61600   12419   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         92.4     66.5     4.31    3470    99.6    61600   13059   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           92.4     66.5     4.31    3470    99.6    61600   13059   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T                 95.5     69.4     4.50    3467    98.7    61600   13239   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 *T                    99.3     69.4     4.50    3467    98.7    61600   13239   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                        90.9     65.0     4.21    3446   100.0    61600   11961   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        94.3     68.5     4.44    3444    99.9    61600   12729   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       93.4     66.2     4.29    3444    99.1    61600   12808   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation     90.2     65.8     4.27    3440   100.0    61600   12540   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N170 *C                 108.4     77.1     4.99    3439    95.0    61600   13594   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              93.0     70.5     4.57    3436    99.7    61600   12685   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T               96.9     67.8     4.39    3434    98.8    61600   12844   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            93.8     64.6     4.19    3432   100.0    61600   12081   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon US 869                     112.0     85.8     5.56    3431    90.4    59399   14162   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165 *C                  99.3     70.6     4.58    3427    99.9    61600   12445   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon 50BMG                      112.0     81.7     5.30    3425    86.0    58790   14284   1.169  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                  99.6     68.7     4.45    3421    99.1    61600   12552   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 3100                       97.1     69.8     4.52    3420   100.0    61600   12303   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S071                         102.6     69.8     4.52    3420   100.0    61600   12303   1.176  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D100                         105.2     81.4     5.27    3405    91.6    61600   13259   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World BMG                 105.2     81.4     5.27    3405    91.6    61600   13259   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                 91.8     63.9     4.14    3404   100.0    61600   11436   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361                        92.4     70.7     4.58    3402    98.7    61600   12520   1.148  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T              101.4     72.1     4.67    3371    93.0    61600   12510   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem 12.7-0                     112.0     83.1     5.39    3359    85.7    58775   13251   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 13                  112.0     82.3     5.33    3352    93.9    54512   13775   1.224  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 8700                      112.0     84.0     5.44    3349    93.8    53392   13823   1.218  ! Near Maximum !

 

[bob_dobalina]

If anyone had time to give me data for the following I would greatly appreciate it!

25-06
22.4" Barrel
110 NAB and/or 110 ELD-X
Norma MRP

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet             : .257, 110, Nosler AccuBond 53742
Useable Case Capaci: 60.236 grain H2O = 3.911 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder             : Norma MRP *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   91    52.83   2902    2057   44712  13577     96.5    1.244
-09.0   92    53.42   2937    2107   46343  13729     97.0    1.223
-08.0   93    54.00   2972    2158   48040  13875     97.5    1.202
-07.0   94    54.59   3007    2209   49791  14013     97.9    1.183
-06.0   95    55.18   3042    2261   51636  14144     98.3    1.163
-05.0   96    55.77   3077    2313   53545  14268     98.6    1.144
-04.0   97    56.35   3112    2366   55524  14383     98.9    1.125  ! Near Maximum !
-03.0   98    56.94   3147    2420   57569  14491     99.2    1.106  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   99    57.53   3182    2473   59686  14590     99.4    1.088  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0  100    58.11   3217    2528   61883  14681     99.6    1.070  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  101    58.70   3252    2582   64164  14763     99.7    1.053  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  102    59.29   3286    2638   66531  14836     99.9    1.036  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  103    59.87   3320    2693   68991  14900     99.9    1.019  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  104    60.46   3355    2749   71546  14954    100.0    1.002  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  105    61.05   3389    2805   74201  15000    100.0    0.986  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  106    61.64   3423    2862   76961  15042    100.0    0.970  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    101    58.70   3405    2832   78665  14213    100.0    0.966  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    101    58.70   3029    2241   50510  14565     94.9    1.168

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet             : .257, 110, Hornady ELD-X 25418
Useable Case Capaci: 61.800 grain H2O = 4.013 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.250 inch = 82.55 mm
Barrel Length      : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder             : Norma MRP *C

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10.0   90    53.37   2889    2038   44050  13761     96.5    1.255
-09.0   91    53.96   2924    2088   45639  13918     97.0    1.234
-08.0   92    54.56   2959    2138   47291  14068     97.4    1.214
-07.0   93    55.15   2993    2188   49005  14211     97.8    1.194
-06.0   94    55.74   3028    2240   50789  14346     98.2    1.174
-05.0   95    56.34   3063    2291   52635  14474     98.5    1.155
-04.0   96    56.93   3097    2343   54541  14594     98.9    1.136
-03.0   97    57.52   3132    2396   56510  14707     99.1    1.118  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   98    58.11   3166    2449   58551  14811     99.4    1.100  ! Near Maximum !
-01.0   99    58.71   3201    2502   60667  14907     99.6    1.082  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  100    59.30   3235    2556   62862  14993     99.7    1.065  ! Near Maximum !
+01.0  101    59.89   3269    2610   65138  15071     99.8    1.047  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0  102    60.49   3303    2665   67499  15140     99.9    1.031  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.0  103    61.08   3337    2720   69949  15200    100.0    1.014  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  104    61.67   3371    2775   72492  15251    100.0    0.998  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+05.0  105    62.27   3404    2831   75132  15297    100.0    0.982  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    100    59.30   3389    2805   76914  14451    100.0    0.977  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    100    59.30   3013    2217   49522  14764     94.8    1.181

 

[2ATexan]

I'm fairly new to using QL. Still learning. My question may be less about the software itself, but I'm confused about some of the results I'm getting.

The cartridge I'm running is a 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum with 142 grain Nosler AccuBond Long-Range.

I confirmed with Hodgdon that Hodgdon H50BMG is ADI AR 2218. ADI in Australia manufactures it and Hodgdon distributes it as H50BMG, BUT...

When I run the Propellant Table in QL, the results are different. I've noticed with propellants that are the same product, but under different names, such as Reloder 17 and Elcho 17, the figures are identical in the Propellant Table, but with ADI AR 2218 and H50BMG, they're different. With a maximum pressure of 65,000 psi, QL shows the max charge of AR 2218 as 86.2 grains and a case fill percentage as 99.0% and a predicted muzzle velocity of 3,364 FPS with a 26" barrel. Then down the list it shows H50BMG a max charge of 85.9, a fill percentage of 103.5 and a predicted MV of 3,247 FPS. What has me perplexed is, not the velocity difference so much. The rep at Hodgon explained that as variances between lots, but the charge weight differences versus the case fill percentages. It shows a higher weight charge for the AR 2218, but a lower fill percentage. Chemical composition variances between lots is a possible explanation of the difference in predicted velocities, but doesn't explain how a heavier charge occupies a lower amount of volume (86.2 grains/99% vs. 85.9 grains/103.5%). Chemical variations between lots isn't going to change space and volume with all else being equal if they're the same product under different labels. If they're the same powder, how is a 86.2 grain charge going to occupy less space than a, 85.9 grain charge? If someone could help me understand this, I'd greatly appreciate it.

 

[DrMike]

Excellent question. I've never actually run into this observation to this point. I can only assume that the test materials supplied to Mr. Bromel were different--the one shipped directly from Australia and the other shipped from the USA.

From the ADI website:

ADI export a range of propellant to the US market where they are rebranded by Hodgdon Powder Company. We share reloading data and technical information with Hodgdon, which helps keep our products at the cutting edge of performance and quality, also the sizeable volumes of Aussie-made powder we export to the US help keep local manufacture economically viable.
ADI / Hodgdon Propellants Equivilents

ADI Powder Hodgdon / IMR naming
Trail Boss Trail Boss
AR2207 H4198
AR2219 H322
BM2 Benchmark
Bench Mark 8208 8208 XBR
AR2206H H4895
AR2208 Varget
AR2209 H4350
AR2213H / AR2213SC H4831 / H4831SC
AR2217 H1000
AR2225 Retumbo
AR2218 H50BMG

While the propellant shipped to the US is equivalent, there is no official recognition that it is identical. However, I do note and in QL that AR 2225 and Retumbo align, as do AR 2217 and H1000. So, it is somewhat mystifying, and I would only be guessing as to the reason for this particular disparity.

 

[2ATexan]

I appreciate any help you can offer, even if it doesn't solve the problem.

The information I'm finding is quite bothersome. Looking at Hodgdon's and ADI's reloading data for this load, there are large variations in what I'm getting from QL.

As I stated previously, it's not only the velocity variation, but more worrisome is the disparity between the volume and pressure predictions. Hodgdon's and ADI's load data show a maximum charge of 90.0 grains of both propellants and a pressure of 62,400 psi, and a MV of 3,193. Let me state, I understand perfectly well about variables and variations from one rifle to another, that none of the information provided is absolute, that much of this is theoretical, that one needs to work up loads in their rifle, I get all of that, but I would expect the load data from the manufacturer would be based on actual testing and there would not be such a huge disparity between what QL predicts and what the reloading manuals are saying. Look at what QL shows if you loaded 90.0 grains of AR 2218 or H50BMG. QL predicts a peak pressure of 77,100 psi (versus 62,400 psi by the manufacturer data, a huge difference) with a 90.0 grain charge of AR 2218 and a peak pressure of 77,202 psi with a 90.0 charge of H50BMG. QL shows a predicted MV of 3,455 FPS with AR 2218 and 3,352 (a difference of 103 FPS) with H50BMG. Again, what is most concerning is the difference in what QL shows for the fill percentage with the 2. QL says a 90.0 grain charge of AR 2218 will occupy 103.4% of the available case capacity and 108.5% with a 90.0 grain charge of H50BMG. All of this with equal parameters between all 3 sources. Same, C.O.A.L., barrel length, et cetera.

Note the starting loads shown in the ADI and Hodgdon data. Their starting load is 84.5 grains, which would yield a MV of 3,013 FPS and a peak pressure of 53,200. QL predicts a peak pressure of 60,418 psi with a 84.5 grain charge and a MV of 3,208 FPS. With a 84.5 grain charge of H50BMG, QL predicts a peak pressure of 61,332 (8,132 psi difference from manufacturer data) and a MV of 3,106 FPS. That's already near PMax of 65,000 psi for that cartridge.

Throw in the published velocity ratings of Weatherby Select Plus Ammunition (they don't offer anything with this bullet, but do with a 140 grain AccuBond and a 140 grain A-Frame) of 3,300-3,395 FPS, I'm thinking that QL is closer to reality. The predicted velocities out of QL are pretty close to the factory ammunition velocity ratings (although Weatherby uses a 26" barrel) whereas Hodgdon's and ADI's listed velocities are a couple of hundred FPS different.

Something is terribly wrong here and this is becoming my White Whale.

 

[BruceP]

I have two wildcat cartridges that are just necked down versions of cartridges in the QuickLoad list. After I change the bore diameter and set the other case dominations how do I save it as it's own separate cartridge?

Bruce

 

[Levy257]

Would anyone be able to run this one that show the list of powders, I want to see which ones give the most velocity?

280 Remington
120 nosler bt
24” barrel

Thanks for your help,
Levi

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .280 Rem.
Bullet             : .284, 120, Nosler BalTip 28120
Useable Case Capaci: 62.675 grain H2O = 4.069 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 58000 psi, or 399 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

8 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T                98.2     59.5     3.85    3335   100.0    58000   11482   1.044  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            97.2     58.9     3.82    3311   100.0    58000   11420   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T               97.2     58.9     3.82    3311   100.0    58000   11420   1.050  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C               100.0     61.5     3.99    3281    98.9    56311   11828   1.060  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 98.6     60.7     3.93    3259    98.2    58000   11474   1.059  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                        96.1     58.8     3.81    3251    97.5    58000   11433   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      96.1     58.8     3.81    3251    97.5    58000   11433   1.062  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                  100.0     60.5     3.92    3245    99.1    56458   11389   1.082  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T                98.4     58.1     3.76    3243    99.2    58000   11238   1.071  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon LVR                         98.7     57.0     3.70    3238    99.0    58000   11070   1.061  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T           100.0     56.3     3.65    3229    99.3    54293   11253   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RL16 TZ *C *T               100.0     56.3     3.65    3229    99.3    54293   11253   1.077  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      100.0     57.8     3.74    3215    99.2    56247   11100   1.096  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP *C                       100.0     57.1     3.70    3202    99.1    55418   11036   1.087  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         100.0     57.1     3.70    3201    99.1    55364   11030   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N160 *C                  98.3     58.0     3.76    3200    99.3    58000   10551   1.067  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                       93.9     54.8     3.55    3199   100.0    58000   10426   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3                          93.9     54.8     3.55    3199   100.0    58000   10426   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     100.0     59.7     3.87    3197    97.6    54526   11289   1.089  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 *C                       100.0     59.7     3.87    3195    95.1    56630   11146   1.068  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                        93.3     55.1     3.57    3195    99.1    58000   10696   1.076  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                       96.0     54.9     3.56    3193   100.0    58000   10352   1.085  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                        95.9     54.2     3.51    3186   100.0    58000   10331   1.080  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 518                100.0     59.7     3.87    3172    97.0    53079   11262   1.102  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         100.0     57.1     3.70    3168    97.4    56883   10776   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World SW4350              100.0     57.1     3.70    3168    97.4    56883   10776   1.088  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                          99.3     56.1     3.64    3167    98.5    58000   10505   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Long Rifle           99.3     56.1     3.64    3167    98.5    58000   10505   1.078  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                       93.5     52.9     3.42    3165   100.0    58000    9786   1.106  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7                          98.0     55.6     3.60    3160    96.8    58000   10565   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                       98.0     55.6     3.60    3160    96.8    58000   10565   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                        94.9     55.6     3.60    3159    96.8    58000   10557   1.074  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       100.0     57.5     3.72    3151   100.0    49970   10760   1.133  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT *C ~approximation    100.0     58.7     3.80    3151    96.6    55072   10824   1.094  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V                100.0     55.9     3.62    3089    99.6    50502   10152   1.129  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        100.0     57.8     3.74    3086    93.5    50837   10778   1.121  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          100.0     57.8     3.74    3086    93.5    50837   10778   1.121  ! Near Maximum !

 

[Johnly]

I'm in need of some 224 Valkyre QL data using I8208 in a 20" 1/6.5 twist launching 80 Berger bullets.
Much appreciated.
John

 

[Johnly]

I'm in need of some 224 Valkyre QL data using IMR 8208 in a 20" 1/6.5 twist launching 80 gr. Berger VLD bullets at magazine length.
Much appreciated.
John

 

[DrMike]

Cartridge          : .224 Valkyrie
Bullet             : .224, 80, Berger VLD G7 #22422
Useable Case Capaci: 28.812 grain H2O = 1.871 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder             : IMR 8208 XBR

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   74    19.60   2234     887   29748   7393     91.0    1.350
-18.0   76    20.09   2286     928   31549   7617     92.1    1.319
-16.0   77    20.58   2337     970   33453   7835     93.1    1.288
-14.0   79    21.07   2389    1014   35464   8048     94.0    1.259
-12.0   81    21.56   2440    1057   37589   8253     94.9    1.229
-10.0   83    22.05   2491    1102   39833   8451     95.7    1.195
-08.0   85    22.54   2542    1147   42203   8640     96.4    1.162
-06.0   87    23.03   2592    1194   44707   8821     97.1    1.131
-04.0   89    23.52   2643    1241   47353   8992     97.7    1.102  ! Near Maximum !
-02.0   90    24.01   2693    1288   50149   9154     98.2    1.073  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0   92    24.50   2743    1336   53105   9305     98.7    1.045  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0   94    24.99   2792    1385   56231   9446     99.1    1.018  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0   96    25.48   2842    1435   59538   9575     99.4    0.992  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0   98    25.97   2891    1484   63040   9691     99.7    0.967  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0  100    26.46   2940    1535   66749   9796     99.8    0.943  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0  101    26.95   2988    1586   70680   9888    100.0    0.920  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba     92    24.50   2854    1447   62203   9095    100.0    0.976  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba     92    24.50   2591    1193   44190   9096     93.6    1.135

 

[Johnly]

Thanks Mike. I have the final piece of information to compare QL and GRT to the actual data from my rifle.

 

[TexasLife]

Not just for @Ridgerunner665, but for others that have good working knowledge of QL? If Nosler and a few others use this for data why doesn't it align with inputs from their data to my QL? Some are WAY OP! Some show different fill % by 5% or more difference? I understand you can change case volume in the program and I've never checked what any of my cases were? Even though I've had this program for maybe 5 years it's still new to me! Starting pressure which might be ignition (primer) start? I can check powder density and adjust for that, but that only changes volume, not burn in which affects pressure. I've watched some videos about making adjustments on QL to meet known data, but different primers make different results if that's starting pressure? WELL, that's way too much typing for me and now feel like I'm on a dating app............................................

 

[Levy257]

Would anyone be able to help me with this one for Quickload? The format where it lists the top powders.

Thank you very much!

7mm STW
140 Barnes ttsx
28” barrel

 

[jimbires]

Cartridge : 7 mm STW
Bullet : .284, 140, Barnes 'TTSX'BT 30300
Useable Case Capaci: 88.244 grain H2O = 5.730 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.650 inch = 92.71 mm
Barrel Length : 28.0 inch = 711.2 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 66717 psi, or 459 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 115 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218 108.2 93.7 6.07 3544 99.6 66717 14306 1.199 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N570 *C 104.2 89.4 5.79 3510 99.2 66717 14068 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C 100.8 88.3 5.72 3497 100.0 66717 12690 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 105.8 93.3 6.05 3488 99.4 66717 13812 1.229 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-50 *C 110.2 97.0 6.28 3478 99.1 66717 14051 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H870 110.3 92.7 6.01 3475 99.9 66717 13421 1.231 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 103.1 91.0 5.90 3470 100.0 66717 13261 1.237 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate LRT 108.6 93.9 6.09 3460 95.6 66717 13784 1.210 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 217 *C 110.3 88.4 5.73 3457 100.0 66717 12496 1.241 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Retumbo 108.0 88.4 5.73 3456 100.0 66717 12162 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2225 108.0 88.4 5.73 3456 100.0 66717 12162 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 8133 Enduron *C*T 110.9 88.3 5.72 3452 100.0 66717 12754 1.234 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C 96.1 79.9 5.18 3447 100.0 66717 12690 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 96.2 83.2 5.39 3437 99.8 66717 12849 1.228 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 2 *C 103.6 84.3 5.46 3435 100.0 66717 12496 1.234 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP30 103.6 84.3 5.46 3435 100.0 66717 12496 1.234 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 95.0 79.4 5.15 3434 100.0 66717 12247 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 100.4 79.4 5.15 3434 100.0 66717 12247 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 98.5 85.5 5.54 3430 100.0 66717 12254 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 98.3 85.4 5.53 3429 100.0 66717 12227 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 94.2 79.9 5.18 3427 100.0 66717 12117 1.228 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 92.7 81.1 5.25 3424 100.0 66717 11921 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 96.2 79.1 5.13 3424 100.0 66717 12191 1.205 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 99.9 84.3 5.46 3416 100.0 66717 11896 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N565 *C 100.3 83.8 5.43 3414 100.0 66717 12441 1.242 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2217 105.0 84.5 5.47 3413 100.0 66717 11860 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H1000 *T 105.0 84.5 5.47 3413 100.0 66717 11860 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 101.5 82.1 5.32 3411 100.0 66717 11629 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 *C 96.5 79.3 5.14 3410 100.0 66717 12054 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 96.5 79.3 5.14 3410 100.0 66717 12054 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 96.5 79.3 5.14 3410 100.0 66717 12054 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 99.0 79.7 5.16 3409 100.0 66717 12074 1.225 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 99.0 79.7 5.16 3409 100.0 66717 12074 1.225 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 8700 114.7 97.4 6.31 3407 99.0 66717 12665 1.221 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 110.7 95.2 6.17 3405 93.4 66717 13739 1.262 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C 107.0 92.7 6.01 3401 95.2 66717 13009 1.215 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 20N29 *C 114.5 100.3 6.50 3399 97.4 66717 13067 1.239 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon 50BMG 112.6 92.9 6.02 3398 91.8 66717 13335 1.223 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 99.9 82.9 5.37 3394 99.7 66717 12220 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 88.4 76.6 4.96 3391 100.0 66717 11365 1.216 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 97.9 79.0 5.12 3390 100.0 66717 11967 1.221 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 13 114.4 95.1 6.16 3383 98.7 66717 12632 1.238 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon US 869 112.1 97.1 6.29 3383 95.3 66717 12987 1.230 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 93.6 75.7 4.91 3381 100.0 66717 11562 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 94.1 76.5 4.96 3376 100.0 66717 11604 1.214 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 95.9 85.0 5.51 3371 100.0 66717 11382 1.230 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 94.8 77.1 5.00 3368 100.0 66717 11518 1.216 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 60 *T 85.5 72.9 4.73 3367 100.0 66717 10926 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

 

[Levy257]

Thanks again, could you do one more for me?

7mm STW
28” barrel
Hornady 150 eldx

Thank you!

 

[jimbires]

Cartridge : 7 mm STW
Bullet : .284, 150, Hornady ELD-X 2826
Useable Case Capaci: 88.271 grain H2O = 5.731 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.650 inch = 92.71 mm
Barrel Length : 28.0 inch = 711.2 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 66717 psi, or 459 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 115 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
ADI AR 2218 106.7 92.5 5.99 3459 99.8 66717 14397 1.230 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N570 *C 102.6 88.0 5.70 3419 99.5 66717 14152 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-33 *C 104.2 92.0 5.96 3397 99.7 66717 13903 1.263 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 76 *C 99.2 86.8 5.63 3396 100.0 66717 12714 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-50 *C 108.5 95.5 6.19 3390 99.5 66717 14162 1.289 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H870 108.7 91.3 5.92 3383 100.0 66717 13476 1.265 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate LRT 107.1 92.7 6.00 3378 96.4 66717 13984 1.242 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 80 *C 101.5 89.6 5.81 3376 100.0 66717 13292 1.271 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 217 *C 108.5 87.0 5.64 3359 100.0 66717 12517 1.276 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Retumbo 106.3 87.0 5.64 3358 100.0 66717 12192 1.252 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2225 106.3 87.0 5.64 3358 100.0 66717 12192 1.252 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 8133 Enduron *C*T 109.2 86.9 5.63 3358 100.0 66717 12778 1.268 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 *C 94.6 78.7 5.10 3351 100.0 66717 12690 1.252 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 94.8 82.0 5.31 3345 99.9 66717 12885 1.261 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 2 *C 102.0 83.0 5.38 3340 100.0 66717 12507 1.268 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP30 102.0 83.0 5.38 3340 100.0 66717 12507 1.268 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 93.6 78.2 5.07 3338 100.0 66717 12246 1.243 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 98.9 78.2 5.07 3338 100.0 66717 12246 1.243 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 517 97.0 84.2 5.46 3335 100.0 66717 12274 1.256 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 12 96.8 84.1 5.45 3334 100.0 66717 12246 1.256 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 94.8 78.0 5.05 3328 100.0 66717 12197 1.238 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP *C 92.7 78.7 5.10 3328 100.0 66717 12123 1.262 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 109.1 93.9 6.09 3324 94.3 66717 13961 1.294 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 *C 91.2 79.8 5.17 3323 100.0 66717 11928 1.275 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 8700 113.1 96.1 6.22 3323 99.4 66717 12789 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AP 2214 98.4 83.1 5.39 3322 100.0 66717 11915 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N565 *C 98.8 82.6 5.35 3320 100.0 66717 12452 1.275 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H1000 *T 103.5 83.3 5.40 3319 100.0 66717 11880 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2217 103.5 83.3 5.40 3319 100.0 66717 11880 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon 50BMG 111.1 91.8 5.95 3319 92.8 66717 13575 1.255 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 24N41 *C 105.6 91.5 5.93 3318 96.0 66717 13202 1.247 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 20N29 *C 113.0 98.9 6.41 3317 98.0 66717 13240 1.272 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 *C 95.0 78.1 5.06 3314 100.0 66717 12061 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA15 *C 95.0 78.1 5.06 3314 100.0 66717 12061 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 95.0 78.1 5.06 3314 100.0 66717 12061 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 97.5 78.5 5.09 3314 100.0 66717 12082 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP15 97.5 78.5 5.09 3314 100.0 66717 12082 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 *C 99.9 80.8 5.24 3311 100.0 66717 11644 1.258 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP5 NT *C ~approximation 98.5 81.7 5.30 3304 99.9 66717 12273 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon US 869 110.6 95.9 6.21 3302 96.1 66717 13189 1.263 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 114.6 95.3 6.17 3301 98.5 66717 12901 1.269 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 13 112.8 93.8 6.08 3298 99.1 66717 12757 1.271 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 96.4 77.9 5.05 3297 100.0 66717 11972 1.254 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 *C 87.0 75.4 4.88 3291 100.0 66717 11369 1.251 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 92.2 74.6 4.84 3285 100.0 66717 11565 1.240 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 92.7 75.4 4.89 3281 100.0 66717 11610 1.247 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 94.5 83.7 5.43 3276 100.0 66717 11405 1.264 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 93.4 76.0 4.93 3274 100.0 66717 11526 1.248 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 94.0 77.3 5.01 3269 100.0 66717 11651 1.245 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 *T 97.8 77.3 5.01 3269 100.0 66717 11651 1.245 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 83.6 72.0 4.66 3265 100.0 66717 11224 1.253 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 83.6 72.0 4.66 3265 100.0 66717 11224 1.253 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!