Range results from this morning...

remingtonman_25_06

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I got up at the buttcrack of dawn, 4:45 so I could beat the heat and wind this morning to get off a few loads for my 7 RM and 7 WSM..

I also needed to zero my 25-06 and .222 because of different scope/mounts..

First was the 7 WSM. I bought this rifle used about a week ago from a friend for $150, Winchester model 70 shadow, completely stock, trigger still sucks at 10 lbs.. Preliminary testing was RL-19/140g AB, I used 2.9" OAL. They showed promise, but RL-19 was used mainly to use up the last of the bottle. It gave 1" at 100 yards and 3300-3375fps. Not to bad given the rifle and throwing some loads together, IMO. Well I had Rl-22 on hand and a few 140g NBT's left so I worked up 4 loads, 3 shots each, starting at 67.5g, 68, 68.5, and 69g. I changed the OAL to 3" as this is where the bullet was close to the lands, and still functioned in my magazine..69g showed to be the clear winner in group size giving a .175" group at 100 yards, perfect little clover leaf. It was moving right along at 3300fps as well..I also changed scopes on this rifle. I had a Leupold vari x 2, 3-9 on it, but took the vx3, 2.5-8 w/rangefinding duplex reticle (old style bracket system) off of my .222 and put it on the 7 WSM. I then put the vari x 2, 3-9 on my .222. Gives it a little more compactness, lightness, and gives me the advantage to rangefind deer out to 600 yards if my POS nikon laser 800 dont pick them up...Heres a pic of the $150 rifle that will shoot 1" or better with a 10 lb triger!! Cant beat it for a cheap truck gun for coyotes/deer!!

67.5g= .959" @ 32225fps,
68g= 2.031" @ 3250fps, 2" flyer
68.5g= .991" @ 3300fps, first 2 touching, 3rd 3/4" flyer
69g= .175" @ 3325fps, clover leaf!!

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heres also a 120g NBT load with 71g RL-19, 4 shots were 1.8", not very good, just used up the remaining RL-19/120g

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Next up was my Rem 700 7 RM, w/6.5-20x50 Leupld VX3 LR/T w/fine duplex, SF, 30 mm tube, factory trigger worked down to 2#, Holland QD brake. This rifle continues to amaze me with its accuracy. I am using up some 160g Speer BTSP and wanted to try it with of course, RL-22. I had 2 loads to try out that I didn't get to about 1 week ago. 64.5g and 65g of RL-22. I already tried 63, 63.5, 64 and they shot OK, but not up to par of this rifles capability..These are particularly warm loads, so start low and work up..Heres the results of the 2 loads testing with 160g BTSP/RL-22.

64.5g= .836" @ 3000fps
65g= .316" @ 3025fps

The rifle...

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Results from the above loads...

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Not to shabby with the ol reliable... Like I said, this rifle is ridiculously accurate for a factory sporter, this is the 6th bullet I've tried, and its the 6th bullet thats shot well under .75" at 100 yards...

I also needed to zero the 25-06. I had a few rounds loaded with 75g vmax?IMR-4064 @ 3400fps that I needed to get rid of, so I started there. After a quick bore sight, I was on paper at 100 yards. 2 shots later I was sighted in 1.5" high @ 100 yards.

The rifle, a Winchester model 70 classic sporter. Its also ridiculously accurate for a factory sporter..It will shoot its preferred loads (about 4-5 different bullets) into .5" MOA all day long...

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All in all, I think I had a pretty good day at the range. I am very satisfied with the way my "box stock" 7 WSM is doing both in accuracy/velocity department. I think with the trigger lightened to around 2.5#, this rifle will be hard to beat shooting a 140g NBT @3300fps for a truck gun for coyotes/deer...

The really good thing is this, my 7 RM also shoots the 140g NBT beautifully w/Rl-22 @ 68.5g, under .5" MOA as well, so I think I need to stock up on a keg of RL-22 and 140g NBT's...Its weird how both of the 7's shoot the same bullet so well with almost the same charge and powder...
 
Remman,

Good shooting. The 7mmWSM is a shooter for sure. You just gotta love that RL22. Best powder for me in my 280AI and 338 RUM w/ 200, 210, and 225gr bullets.
Are you going to try the 160 gr PT in the WSM?

JD338
 
NOT ALL DAYS YOU CAN BUY A $150 RIFLE AND GET THAT GROUPS, YOUR FRIEND SHOULD BE WEIRED, TELL ME IS THE RIFLE BEDDED AND FREEFLOATED
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR 7WSM.
 
You got any kind of a Winchester Model 70 for $150????

That oughta be illegal.

I'll give you $175 + shipping RIGHT NOW! :grin:
 
JD- No, I dont even think I'm gonan try anythign else out of this 7 WSM. Its not going to be used for elk or bears, unless something happens to my 7 RM, so the 140g NBT is perfect for what I want it for, which is coyotes/deer up to 600 yards..I love RL-22 for its accuracy, it just seems that I've shot some great groups w/ it, but I really hate the temp sensitiveity about it..

WIN70- No you cant..I'm glad I picked it up..I couldn't pass it up at the price either, even if it shot 1" at 100 yards. I prefer .75" or better though for longer range shooting..My friend is what?? The rifle is COMPLETELY BOX STOCK. No trigger work, no bedding, and not free floated..I just mounted a scope and worked up some loads and took her to the range. Usually I get a trigger job before I work up loads, but I haven't got around to it yet..My gunsmith is particularly hard to get a hold of..

Guy- Yah thats what I was thinking!! When he offered to sell it to me for $150, I asked if he was serious, he said yes, so I was like, hell yah!! Ha ha, he actually is buildign a 7 STW, so he has no use for a POS winchester shadow 7 WSM :lol: I dont think he knew it shot this good though. Hes not much of a reloader or shooter, so..I figure when I want to get rid of it, I'll make a little of my money back :grin: He also threw in a RCBS neck sizer die, RCBS Full length die set, A box of 160 and 175g partitions, a few 120g NBT's, a few 150g Scirocco's, and a MTM 50 round case for $50. So I'm only in the rifle/accesories $200. I dont think it can be beat for its intended purpose..it seems to shoot 1" or a little better to if I do my part with its better loads. I sure dont count on it doing 1/4" all the time, but it should hold 3/4" with that load..
 
Let me know if you get tired of it and want to sell it for some quick cash...

By the way - Model 70 triggers are ridiculously simple... You've got quite the shooter there, and at a bargain! :grin:
 
For sure you got a bargain, pse dont show the results to ur friend, he should get a lil upset,hihi. For sure you should try other loads in your 7mm wsm, been looking very close on those WSM, i have a 270wsm and a 300wsm and they both like imr4350 with 140gr and 150,165. I consider using bullets in the 270 (130,140)gr range and in the 300WSM in the (150,165) range, longer bullets ocuppy case capacity and in my thinking should be used on larger cases (like 160AB in my 7mm Rem Mag).
Those WSM are easy to load and group for sure, saw a kimber mod 84 in
300WSM and a Shadow 270 with group as small as my target 308.
Have fun with your 7mm and in the future Ill get one of those.
 
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