Remington Sportsman 78

HAWKEYESATX

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DrMike":23bny64n said:
You'll be fine with a 22 inch barrel. It'll definitely be more convenient than a longer barrel when toting the rifle through bush.
I fully agree with you there DrMike!

With the new powders, 22 inches is plenty long enough.

Does Varget work well in the .35 Whelen?


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SJB358

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HAWKEYESATX":1fami8h9 said:
SJB358":1fami8h9 said:
Today, with the powders used I wouldn’t want a Whelen with much longer than a 22” barrel myself. The powders used are relatively fast and with be larger bore, work great from the shorter barrels. I’d bet you’ll get more speed than your body wants to absorb for too much shooting.
With your testing in other calibers Scotty, I believe you’re right.
Did you do any StaBall 6.5 testing in your Whelen?


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No, I sure haven’t. I think it’s a little too slow for the Whelen but I could be wrong. I have a lot of PP2000 I plan to try eventually. Right now I’m stuck on 200 TTSXs and 8208 at 2900.





 

SJB358

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Oh and Varget is real good as well. Whichever you have the most of from 4064 up through RL17 works well depending on bullet weight.
 

PJGunner

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"I was wondering what you all think about just using the 225 gr AccuBond or TSX as the only bullet?"

I've gone to the 225 gr. TSX as my go to bullet in my .35 Whelen. I get 2710 FPS using Remington brass, Winchester primer and 60.4 gr. RL17. Caution: Absolute maximum in my rifle. Load is too hot for a Remington 700 Classic and Ruger M77 that I have. My barrel is 24". I believe 2600 is possible with 22" barrel. I have taken elk out to 350 yards with that load/rifle combo.
Paul B.
 

HAWKEYESATX

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SJB358":11dscvxp said:
HAWKEYESATX":11dscvxp said:
SJB358":11dscvxp said:
Today, with the powders used I wouldn’t want a Whelen with much longer than a 22” barrel myself. The powders used are relatively fast and with be larger bore, work great from the shorter barrels. I’d bet you’ll get more speed than your body wants to absorb for too much shooting.
With your testing in other calibers Scotty, I believe you’re right.
Did you do any StaBall 6.5 testing in your Whelen?


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No, I sure haven’t. I think it’s a little too slow for the Whelen but I could be wrong. I have a lot of PP2000 I plan to try eventually. Right now I’m stuck on 200 TTSXs and 8208 at 2900.





Holy Cow! Scottie!
That’s smoking for a 35 Whelen!
The 200 gr TTSX is more than capable of taking any game on this Continent.
What rate of twist do you have in your Ruger?
Holy Smoke! 2900 fps! Whew!!
I have 4064, H4350, IMR 7828, H335, RL 22, and RL26 on hand, oh and H4189.


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PJGunner":3maljkkx said:
"I was wondering what you all think about just using the 225 gr AccuBond or TSX as the only bullet?"

I've gone to the 225 gr. TSX as my go to bullet in my .35 Whelen. I get 2710 FPS using Remington brass, Winchester primer and 60.4 gr. RL17. Caution: Absolute maximum in my rifle. Load is too hot for a Remington 700 Classic and Ruger M77 that I have. My barrel is 24". I believe 2600 is possible with 22" barrel. I have taken elk out to 350 yards with that load/rifle combo.
Paul B.
Now that’s what I like to see right there Paul!
I can certainly get within 350 yds of a game animal!

Thank you for sharing.


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SJB358

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I think this Ruger is a 1-12 or 14.. If I had to pick it would be a 1-10. Just no reason not to do it.
 

HAWKEYESATX

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SJB358":3ovxqbnw said:
I think this Ruger is a 1-12 or 14.. If I had to pick it would be a 1-10. Just no reason not to do it.
A 1-10 twist will stabilize the heaviest projectiles. How well does it stabilize the lighter projectiles?
What’s the heaviest .35 cal bullet that I would be able to shoot?


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SJB358

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If it stabilizes the heaviest it’ll stabilize the shortest just fine as well Hawk. Worrying about over spinning today’s Bullets is a hold over from years ago when Bullets weren’t well balanced.

Spin them and let them impress you.
 

JD338

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Hawk,
Just for the record, I've got a 700 Classic 35 Whelen with a 22" 1:16" twist barrel. I'm getting 2580 fps and sub MOA accuracy with the 250 gr PT. The 1:16 twist has by fine for bullets weighing 200-250 grs. but I would go with a quicker twist if I had the option to ensure stabilization of 300 gr bullets should you choose to go with the heavyweights. The Speer 250 gr Hot Core is very close to the 250 gr PT which offers an economical option for target shooting or hunting.

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HAWKEYESATX

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SJB358":37lf7cm8 said:
If it stabilizes the heaviest it’ll stabilize the shortest just fine as well Hawk. Worrying about over spinning today’s Bullets is a hold over from years ago when Bullets weren’t well balanced.

Spin them and let them impress you.
Thank you for your advice.
I am definitely going to get the 1-10 twist!
I forget sometimes that bullets are much better made nowadays, than of yesteryear.
I really like the Barnes 200 gr TTSX, and the Nosler 225 gr AccuBond, and they are outstanding bullets.
But, with a faster twist, I am looking forward to shooting them as well.


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JD338":2eyazfeu said:
Hawk,
Just for the record, I've got a 700 Classic 35 Whelen with a 22" 1:16" twist barrel. I'm getting 2580 fps and sub MOA accuracy with the 250 gr PT. The 1:16 twist has by fine for bullets weighing 200-250 grs. but I would go with a quicker twist if I had the option to ensure stabilization of 300 gr bullets should you choose to go with the heavyweights. The Speer 250 gr Hot Core is very close to the 250 gr PT which offers an economical option for target shooting or hunting.

JD338
Thank you for your advice, too!
You and Scottie have been fountains of knowledge about the 35 Whelen, and many other rifles and calibers.
I will certainly be going with the 1-10 twist, so I can lob those 300 grainers in on unsuspecting prey!
What kinda velocity do they get?
I know that the 200 - 225 grs can get to 2800 - 2900 fps.
Please impart your knowledge about velocities with the heavy bullets.


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HAWKEYESATX":w758pidh said:
JD338":w758pidh said:
Hawk,
Just for the record, I've got a 700 Classic 35 Whelen with a 22" 1:16" twist barrel. I'm getting 2580 fps and sub MOA accuracy with the 250 gr PT. The 1:16 twist has by fine for bullets weighing 200-250 grs. but I would go with a quicker twist if I had the option to ensure stabilization of 300 gr bullets should you choose to go with the heavyweights. The Speer 250 gr Hot Core is very close to the 250 gr PT which offers an economical option for target shooting or hunting.

JD338
Thank you for your advice, too!
You and Scottie have been fountains of knowledge about the 35 Whelen, and many other rifles and calibers.
I will certainly be going with the 1-10 twist, so I can lob those 300 grainers in on unsuspecting prey!
What kinda velocity do they get?
I know that the 200 - 225 grs can get to 2800 - 2900 fps.
Please impart your knowledge about velocities with the heavy bullets.


Hawk


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Hawk,
I've had my Whelen since 1988 when Remington introduced in in the Classic series. I've never shot heavier than 250 grs. IMHO, the 250 gr PT at 2500-2600 fps will handle everything from mice to moose. They open up nicely on WT deer and offer very deep penetration on elk and moose. Here is last year's buck taken with the 35 Whelen and a 250 gr PT. DRT

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HAWKEYESATX

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JD338":1nl6i0ag said:
HAWKEYESATX":1nl6i0ag said:
JD338":1nl6i0ag said:
Hawk,
Just for the record, I've got a 700 Classic 35 Whelen with a 22" 1:16" twist barrel. I'm getting 2580 fps and sub MOA accuracy with the 250 gr PT. The 1:16 twist has by fine for bullets weighing 200-250 grs. but I would go with a quicker twist if I had the option to ensure stabilization of 300 gr bullets should you choose to go with the heavyweights. The Speer 250 gr Hot Core is very close to the 250 gr PT which offers an economical option for target shooting or hunting.

JD338
Thank you for your advice, too!
You and Scottie have been fountains of knowledge about the 35 Whelen, and many other rifles and calibers.
I will certainly be going with the 1-10 twist, so I can lob those 300 grainers in on unsuspecting prey!
What kinda velocity do they get?
I know that the 200 - 225 grs can get to 2800 - 2900 fps.
Please impart your knowledge about velocities with the heavy bullets.


Hawk


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Hawk,
I've had my Whelen since 1988 when Remington introduced in in the Classic series. I've never shot heavier than 250 grs. IMHO, the 250 gr PT at 2500-2600 fps will handle everything from mice to moose. They open up nicely on WT deer and offer very deep penetration on elk and moose. Here is last year's buck taken with the 35 Whelen and a 250 gr PT. DRT

JD338
That’s a great pic!
I certainly can’t argue with success.

Hawk
 
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