RL-17 in th 30.06.

[tjRoberts]

Anybody tried this combo ?
I did ,
used the data from the aliant web page but my velocity was quite a bit faster than they show.
Some posters on 24 HR campfire are a little concered about preasure.
I did 56 grains over a 165 grain balistic tip and got 2982.
The aliant sight shows a max of 56.5. That load gave me 3012.
22 inch barrel.
Input please...tj3006

 

[remingtonman_25_06]

Well from the QL numbers I ran, it says with 56.5g RL-17 165g NBT, 22", you'll be getting 2892fps and its at 59757 psi, so its right at the upper end. If you enter 56.6, your over 60K psi and in the red zone.

Lots of factors can be said for 100fps. Just be thankful its a positive in your case!!

 

[30-338]

Anybody tried this combo ?
I did ,
used the data from the aliant web page but my velocity was quite a bit faster than they show.
Some posters on 24 HR campfire are a little concered about preasure.
I did 56 grains over a 165 grain balistic tip and got 2982.
The aliant sight shows a max of 56.5. That load gave me 3012.
22 inch barrel.
Input please...tj3006

You got better than I did.

 

[tjRoberts]

I think I will stick with the 56 grains.
I am about 100 FPS faster than remington man's data sugjests and the same is true with the data from the aliant web page. But There are no
preasure signs I can see.
I will bring my Ruger #1 along and compare velocity...tj3006

 

[DrMike]

tj,

You should be fine. The powder and bullet manufactures that provide the reloading data are careful to avoid excessive pressure. There could be any of a number of reason for the higher velocity you observe. The first and obvious point I would caution about is that the data provided by Alliant uses Speer BTSP bullets. The Nosler BT may have a different bearing surface which would generate different pressure, and the gilding metal may have significant influence on the pressure required to move the bullet along the lands. The old rule about working up a load carefully whenever you change any component still applies.

I wonder whether your velocities reflect a tight standard deviation? The SD can vary quite a bit for small sample sizes, so even that is not a hard and fast rule. I assume you did work up from a reduced amount to obtain the numbers you now have. Are there any pressure signs other than the increased velocity?

 

[bullet]

If you are not showing flat primers, over expanded bases or sticky bolts you are fine. Your velocities are not really out of the ordinary if one loads the 06 to 25-06 or 270Win pressures. I was getting 3060fps using IMR4350 in my Mark V with the 165gr Sierra HPBT and 3007fps with the 168gr TSX.

I got in my Ruger Hawkeye 06, with IMR4350, AA2495BR and H4350, over 2950fps and no excessive pressure signs and very good accuracy to say the least. RL-17 is suppose to give even faster velocities than the above powders I used, so if you are not showing signs of over max loads I am not surprised at your velocities.

 

[3006savage]

I have been loading RL17 in my 22" barreled 06 savage. I am loading the 168 grain Ballistic tip for deer and the 200 grain AccuBond for elk. The 168s shoot 1/2" to 1" groups at 3010 FPS and the 200s get 2700 FPS with 5/8" to 1 1/16"groups. The Accubonds seem to be a little more perticular about their seating depth but the Ballistic tips did not seem to react much when changing the seating depth.

I am running 3.41 oal with the 168s and 3.93 with the 200s. According to quick load both are just under 65KPSI.

I see no reason to load down 06 loads in a rifle also chambered for 270 winchester so the fact that you are 100 fps over the manuals velocity would not concern me as long as the bolt lift seems normal and no primers are showing pressure.

 

[DrMike]

tj,

I recently worked up a load in my 30-06 using a maximum of 56 grains of RL17 and 165 ABs. Velocity was 2840 in my rifle, but the accuracy was not as good as other loads. You can work up the load as provided by Alliant Powders without being overly concerned. Follow normal safety procedures.