Sako L691 Safari Deluxe 416 Rem Mag

SJB358":k623ydh3 said:
Those old Sakos don't need parts! They just just shoot Lou!

Well Scotty, I just called the gun shop, and this rifle is on consignment, I made an offer of $1500 firm, they well contact the seller and get back to me on Monday or Tuesday.
2..I also asked to find out where and whom magna-ported the barrel.
3..I also asked to take it to the range (behind the shop) and take it for a test run if the deal goes through. I'll just pop on my Zeiss Conquest 2-10x42 just to see how the 400gr A-frames group (I well pay for the ammo)
4..I'm keeping the .375 H&H, and just buy the rifle out right.
5..I'll keep ya posted bro! :mrgreen:

Lou
 
Good luck Lou. That is very smart buying if you can shoot it first. That makes it a whole lot easier to swallow.

Now, what happens when it plunks those big 400's down nicely.. How are you going to NOT take it home... :lol:
 
SJB358":p86xmiq9 said:
Good luck Lou. That is very smart buying if you can shoot it first. That makes it a whole lot easier to swallow.

Now, what happens when it plunks those big 400's down nicely.. How are you going to NOT take it home... :lol:
Yea Scotty, I made those conditions with my offer pal. If he needs to sell it, then he well take my offer. 20 or so shots at 100 yds should do the trick!

Lou
 
Seems like a good plan Lou.

One thing has always bugged me about buying guns. I can test drive a car, I can't normally test fire a gun. Unless purchasing from a private party. Often they'll allow some range time.

That .416 is even more-better than the .375 as a big game cartridge. I remember Remington introducing it as a standard length magnum, but duplicating the wonderful .416 Rigby ballistics, about 2400 fps with a 400 gr bullet.

Guy
 
Guy Miner":vjbmgmyn said:
Seems like a good plan Lou.

One thing has always bugged me about buying guns. I can test drive a car, I can't normally test fire a gun. Unless purchasing from a private party. Often they'll allow some range time.

That .416 is even more-better than the .375 as a big game cartridge. I remember Remington introducing it as a standard length magnum, but duplicating the wonderful .416 Rigby ballistics, about 2400 fps with a 400 gr bullet.

Guy
Thanks Guy :) ..I guess it`s sorta like a private deal in a way, they at the gun shop all know me, and the gun club is just behind it. I would feel better about the deal firing about a box of ammo first, not for the recoil, but mainly for the accuracy and cycling etc.
Now I just gottta wait a few days to find out :roll:

Lou
 
Sako 85":3fwztoex said:
SJB358":3fwztoex said:
Good luck Lou. That is very smart buying if you can shoot it first. That makes it a whole lot easier to swallow.

Now, what happens when it plunks those big 400's down nicely.. How are you going to NOT take it home... :lol:
Yea Scotty, I made those conditions with my offer pal. If he needs to sell it, then he well take my offer. 20 or so shots at 100 yds should do the trick!

Lou

Jeeze, yeah, I would think so Lou.. You might need a vacation after 20 rounds with that boomer..
 
DrMike":12501k6t said:
Wise move on your part, Lou.

Thanks Doc!

I think it's a fair offer, if it was me, I'd surely let a potential buyer test it on the range if I wanted to make a sale. If he belongs to the gun club, I might just even know him?
Lou
 
Without a doubt Lou. No harm in letting someone shoot it and make sure it's worth the hassle.
 
Not many places still allow or even have a gun range in their business besides a test fire barrel! Back when I was a teenager I knew a store in Magnolia, Arkansas that all ya had to do was ask and he would take ya down in his basement which was set up as a range! Owned by Bob Olive which was a popular guy back in the day and his gunshop was an old huge house! Unusual back in the 70's in rural Arkansas to find an indoor range to say the least! I understand rifles had to be re blued after the process unless Sako did them prior bluing ? My FFL dealer is big into doing this to all his nicer rifles as well! Lou I hope it turns out a big thumbs up and hope the deal works out for ya as I understand the 416 is stiff but more manageable than a few others. Nice furniture and hope the groups do the outside justice! it would be hard for me to walk away but as you mentioned group size and operation is foremost!
 
HOGWILD338-378":5hxrddvt said:
Not many places still allow or even have a gun range in their business besides a test fire barrel! Back when I was a teenager I knew a store in Magnolia, Arkansas that all ya had to do was ask and he would take ya down in his basement which was set up as a range! Owned by Bob Olive which was a popular guy back in the day and his gunshop was an old huge house! Unusual back in the 70's in rural Arkansas to find an indoor range to say the least! I understand rifles had to be re blued after the process unless Sako did them prior bluing ? My FFL dealer is big into doing this to all his nicer rifles as well! Lou I hope it turns out a big thumbs up and hope the deal works out for ya as I understand the 416 is stiff but more manageable than a few others. Nice furniture and hope the groups do the outside justice! it would be hard for me to walk away but as you mentioned group size and operation is foremost!

Thanks Terry, the shop always uses the range for customers, so really my situation is no different, after all, they want to make a sale, and the consignee wants to get his rifle sold, I'll buy it only under my conditions, even for a few bucks more, no test drive, no buy. If the guy is desperate to sell this Sako, then I'm sure he'll come to terms with me.

Lou
 
Sako 85":nlxr466u said:
SJB358":nlxr466u said:
Those old Sakos don't need parts! They just just shoot Lou!

Well Scotty, I just called the gun shop, and this rifle is on consignment, I made an offer of $1500 firm, they well contact the seller and get back to me on Monday or Tuesday.
2..I also asked to find out where and whom magna-ported the barrel.
3..I also asked to take it to the range (behind the shop) and take it for a test run if the deal goes through. I'll just pop on my Zeiss Conquest 2-10x42 just to see how the 400gr A-frames group (I well pay for the ammo)
4..I'm keeping the .375 H&H, and just buy the rifle out right.
5..I'll keep ya posted bro! :mrgreen:

Lou

Nice!


BTW This load for everything!


Cartridge : .416 Rem. Mag.
Bullet : .416, 300, Barnes 'TSX' FB 41683
Useable Case Capaci: 88.400 grain H2O = 5.740 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.600 inch = 91.44 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 64000 psi, or 441 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

100 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
Elcho 17 110.0 94.0 6.09 2942 99.7 63022 8995 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 110.0 94.0 6.09 2942 99.7 63022 8995 1.052 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60 110.0 94.0 6.09 2936 99.9 61360 9058 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 109.4 94.3 6.11 2896 95.9 64000 8857 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760 109.4 94.3 6.11 2896 95.9 64000 8857 1.059 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 52 106.8 89.9 5.83 2890 99.5 64000 8418 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11 108.0 90.9 5.89 2890 99.4 64000 8468 1.061 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 98.8 89.7 5.81 2887 99.6 64000 8380 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game 104.6 90.8 5.88 2882 99.3 64000 8368 1.062 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 104.1 84.9 5.50 2875 99.5 64000 8388 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2 99.2 88.3 5.72 2866 99.9 64000 8216 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B 105.5 85.9 5.57 2863 99.4 64000 8283 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 107.1 88.2 5.72 2863 99.8 64000 8195 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 107.1 88.2 5.72 2863 99.8 64000 8195 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748 96.7 84.8 5.50 2862 100.0 64000 7911 1.069 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 104.9 85.5 5.54 2862 99.1 64000 8316 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11 104.9 85.5 5.54 2862 99.1 64000 8316 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 104.9 85.5 5.54 2862 99.1 64000 8316 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903 109.5 88.3 5.72 2854 99.7 64000 8109 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031 105.1 80.0 5.19 2853 100.0 64000 7477 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511 110.0 95.5 6.19 2849 96.1 60054 8807 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 101.1 82.4 5.34 2847 99.7 64000 8091 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar 99.4 86.6 5.61 2845 99.4 64000 8138 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 109.3 87.2 5.65 2845 99.6 64000 8105 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550 110.0 91.6 5.93 2843 97.8 59538 8700 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380 106.0 88.2 5.72 2843 98.1 64000 8318 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064 107.4 85.6 5.55 2842 100.0 64000 7672 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320 106.7 85.6 5.54 2842 99.3 64000 7999 1.063 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 101.4 82.7 5.36 2841 99.4 64000 8110 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520 99.5 85.5 5.54 2838 100.0 64000 7672 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6 101.8 85.5 5.54 2838 100.0 64000 7672 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9 102.1 85.9 5.56 2835 99.4 64000 8049 1.075 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516 102.0 88.6 5.74 2833 98.0 64000 8207 1.074 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 50 104.1 88.3 5.72 2831 98.2 64000 8140 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 98.4 83.7 5.42 2829 99.9 64000 7856 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321 96.5 84.6 5.48 2827 99.9 64000 7880 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62 110.0 93.9 6.09 2826 97.8 56412 8685 1.115 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 105.4 88.7 5.75 2825 98.2 64000 8094 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062 105.9 84.0 5.44 2821 99.9 64000 7784 1.087 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495 101.1 80.6 5.22 2821 100.0 64000 7345 1.109 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70 110.0 95.5 6.19 2819 96.1 56532 8998 1.107 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 100.1 87.8 5.69 2817 99.3 64000 7824 1.076 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 97.4 79.8 5.17 2816 99.9 64000 7739 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 104.3 85.9 5.57 2816 100.0 64000 7631 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET 107.2 84.5 5.47 2815 98.9 64000 7962 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208 106.8 84.5 5.47 2815 98.9 64000 7962 1.073 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335 92.0 81.8 5.30 2814 100.0 64000 7491 1.079 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 102.0 81.8 5.30 2812 100.0 64000 7473 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10 91.7 79.8 5.17 2810 100.0 64000 7452 1.082 ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7 99.9 87.3 5.66 2810 98.0 64000 7990 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 91.6 79.9 5.18 2809 100.0 64000 7441 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR 99.6 81.2 5.26 2808 99.9 64000 7662 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 108.0 83.1 5.39 2808 99.1 64000 7812 1.078 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 102.5 81.7 5.29 2807 99.9 64000 7733 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC 98.8 86.9 5.63 2807 97.5 64000 8066 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 107.1 88.0 5.70 2806 96.1 64000 8040 1.065 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp 99.9 78.7 5.10 2804 100.0 64000 6901 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 TZ ~approximation 99.3 78.8 5.10 2804 100.0 64000 6902 1.080 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219 91.7 77.1 5.00 2803 100.0 64000 7235 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322 97.5 77.1 5.00 2803 100.0 64000 7235 1.077 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 109.3 88.5 5.73 2799 97.1 64000 7934 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902 104.4 82.0 5.32 2798 99.9 64000 7630 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460 94.9 83.2 5.39 2796 100.0 64000 7473 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5 95.2 83.2 5.39 2796 100.0 64000 7473 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 40 93.8 77.9 5.05 2794 100.0 64000 7284 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC 107.1 88.5 5.74 2792 95.0 64000 8097 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator 96.5 83.9 5.44 2790 99.3 64000 7706 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230 94.4 83.3 5.40 2787 99.7 64000 7527 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 104.2 83.2 5.39 2785 100.0 64000 7171 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 100.4 77.8 5.04 2785 100.0 64000 7325 1.104 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4 93.5 81.6 5.29 2783 100.0 64000 7350 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 110.0 88.0 5.70 2777 94.8 62788 8062 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 110.0 88.0 5.70 2777 94.8 62788 8062 1.094 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 100.6 81.4 5.27 2777 99.6 64000 7501 1.081 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12 97.2 80.8 5.23 2772 100.0 64000 7065 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210 92.5 77.9 5.05 2772 100.0 64000 7318 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060 101.3 80.3 5.20 2765 99.4 64000 7460 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark 98.5 79.0 5.12 2764 100.0 64000 7279 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2 90.6 78.6 5.10 2764 100.0 64000 7261 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350 110.0 89.6 5.81 2760 97.0 53562 8431 1.154
Vihtavuori N135 110.0 81.3 5.27 2759 100.0 61505 6947 1.106 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206 100.5 81.0 5.25 2756 99.6 64000 7355 1.084 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x 94.9 73.0 4.73 2755 100.0 64000 6789 1.097 ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP 110.0 88.7 5.75 2754 96.9 53551 8393 1.144
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 110.0 88.7 5.75 2753 96.9 53500 8388 1.145
SF033 fl, russ. 5,45x39 91.6 76.3 4.94 2753 100.0 64000 6618 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 110.0 87.7 5.68 2749 96.5 59237 7990 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 110.0 92.6 6.00 2747 94.6 53453 8526 1.143
Accurate 2015 97.6 76.1 4.93 2745 100.0 64000 6719 1.102 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 110.0 92.6 6.00 2744 91.4 57078 8300 1.116 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335 101.7 81.1 5.25 2740 100.0 64000 6878 1.098 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700 106.7 90.8 5.88 2735 94.6 64000 7566 1.093 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 91.0 72.5 4.70 2731 100.0 64000 6602 1.112 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 110.0 88.7 5.75 2724 94.6 56311 8102 1.144
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 90.8 71.7 4.65 2722 100.0 64000 6657 1.083 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 103.7 77.3 5.01 2720 100.0 64000 6508 1.091 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198 91.4 69.9 4.53 2709 100.0 64000 6510 1.085 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 110.0 91.0 5.90 2707 93.3 54218 8111 1.147
IMR 4198 94.4 69.0 4.47 2707 100.0 64000 6305 1.086 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365 110.0 89.2 5.78 2706 98.8 47695 8329 1.193
Vihtavuori N130 97.7 74.5 4.82 2704 100.0 64000 6421 1.099 ! Near Maximum !
Kazan Sunar 308W 93.2 74.3 4.81 2698 100.0 64000 6402 1.100 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350 110.0 89.2 5.78 2698 93.2 55409 7901 1.138
Vihtavuori N150 110.0 84.6 5.48 2695 99.6 55350 7456 1.149
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 86.7 5.62 2653 97.7 49094 7731 1.188
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 110.0 89.6 5.81 2645 89.6 50861 7996 1.175
Raufoss RA4 110.0 89.6 5.81 2645 89.6 50861 7996 1.175
Hodgdon H4350 110.0 87.7 5.68 2645 92.1 52082 7750 1.170
Vihtavuori N120 92.2 68.6 4.44 2640 100.0 64000 5826 1.111 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209 110.0 89.2 5.78 2616 88.5 48891 7998 1.193
Alliant Reloder-19 110.0 89.6 5.81 2602 88.5 46990 8031 1.215
IMR 4831 110.0 85.8 5.56 2597 95.0 44893 7878 1.245
Rottweil R904 110.0 88.4 5.73 2597 87.9 50132 7624 1.190
Somchem S361 110.0 95.5 6.19 2594 87.0 51916 7502 1.182
Winchester Supreme 780 110.0 94.5 6.12 2593 88.6 49689 7709 1.191
Norma MRP 110.0 93.5 6.06 2582 88.1 42628 8564 1.256
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 110.0 89.6 5.81 2574 88.0 45945 7894 1.228
Somchem S385 110.0 90.6 5.87 2558 89.7 44602 7784 1.251
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 92.1 5.97 2540 83.2 44667 7970 1.242
Hodgdon H4831 SC 110.0 90.6 5.87 2525 84.1 46061 7523 1.233
ADI AR 2213 110.0 90.6 5.87 2515 82.9 44032 7804 1.251
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 91.6 5.93 2514 81.9 41335 8081 1.279
Raufoss RA15 110.0 90.6 5.87 2507 85.2 40537 8026 1.288
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 90.6 5.87 2507 85.2 40537 8026 1.288
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 90.6 5.87 2507 85.2 40537 8026 1.288
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 95.3 6.17 2467 78.6 39948 7876 1.300
Ramshot Magnum 110.0 97.6 6.33 2444 83.8 41239 7623 1.289
Accurate 3100 110.0 89.6 5.81 2437 89.2 37566 7468 1.338
Rottweil R905 110.0 89.0 5.76 2436 81.5 39464 7454 1.309
Winchester WXR 110.0 88.7 5.75 2427 83.1 37179 7707 1.336
Bofors RP15 110.0 88.7 5.75 2427 83.1 37179 7707 1.336
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 87.1 5.64 2410 81.4 40225 7107 1.306
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 85.9 5.57 2395 83.5 40337 6849 1.311
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 88.7 5.75 2390 85.3 38439 7021 1.329
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 110.0 91.4 5.92 2389 77.5 39864 7104 1.313
IMR 7828 110.0 87.1 5.64 2371 78.9 36931 7296 1.344
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 95.7 6.20 2364 78.0 37604 7468 1.348
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 95.7 6.20 2358 77.6 37418 7440 1.352
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 89.2 5.78 2350 84.5 33934 7626 1.386
ADI AP 2214 110.0 93.1 6.03 2341 77.3 38359 7054 1.335
Lovex S071 110.0 84.8 5.49 2276 85.4 30991 6922 1.447
Bofors RP30 110.0 89.6 5.81 2232 74.9 29999 7071 1.459
Norma MRP 2 110.0 89.6 5.81 2232 74.9 29999 7071 1.459
ADI AR 2217 110.0 88.7 5.75 2192 72.8 32185 6389 1.436
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 88.7 5.75 2192 72.8 32185 6389 1.436
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 94.5 6.12 2160 63.5 29586 6680 1.499
Alliant Reloder-33 110.0 98.5 6.38 2113 62.0 28987 6435 1.519
ADI AR 2225 110.0 90.1 5.84 2111 71.0 27577 6420 1.524
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 90.1 5.84 2111 71.0 27577 6420 1.524
Lovex D100 110.0 96.5 6.25 2102 62.2 31621 5654 1.485
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 88.7 5.75 2081 66.2 27733 5865 1.530
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 95.5 6.19 2057 57.2 29891 5535 1.519
ReloadSwiss RS 80 110.0 97.2 6.30 2019 58.5 26564 5905 1.582
ADI AR 2218 110.0 95.5 6.19 2009 53.3 28013 5401 1.559
Norma 217 110.0 88.3 5.72 1992 66.1 23231 6090 1.665
Hodgdon H870 110.0 92.6 6.00 1969 59.2 24027 5715 1.648
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 103.0 41.9 2.71 1967 100.0 64000 2828 1.275 ! Near Maximum !
 
Oldtrader3":ymcpq1p4 said:
Good luck, Lou! Hell of deal!

Well I went to the gun shop this morning, and checked this baby out in person :) ..man, this rifle is just absolutely gorgeous!..It's in about 99.5% as in new condition, looks to be hardly fired, and not a mark on it, from lock,stock and barrel. They have contacted the consignee (seller) with my offer, but he hasn't responded yet. I was tempted to pull out my credit card and pay full price, but I just couldn't do it :oops:

They left a memo to contact the seller again, apparently he's from Montreal Quebec.

Lou
 
Hope it works out. It's a beautiful rifle in a truly awesome cartridge too.
 
Mine shoots 300gr Barnes X's at 2960fps using H-4895 but I also have a 26" barrel. I use the same powder for 350gr Speers at 2650fps. I've shot a few elk and deer with the 350's and a moose with the 300's. One deer was at 430yds and the furthest elk was 350yds.
 
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