Savage action

[wisconsinteacher]

Would the 6mmBR work in a long action with a 270/30-06 bolt face. I think that would be an accurate round to use at the range. Also, could a standard Savage wood stock be opened up to take a heavier barrel?

 

[WYcoyote]

Would the 6mmBR work in a long action with a 270/30-06 bolt face. I think that would be an accurate round to use at the range. Also, could a standard Savage wood stock be opened up to take a heavier barrel?

The bolt face will work but with a brass length of 1.5598" it is a very short round to use in a LA. Everyone's attempt to keep things linear will be upset and the resulting chaos in the universe will be your fault. (But if it feeds OK it would work).
Yes the barrel channel can be opened to recieve a heavy barrel.

 

[wisconsinteacher]

What are the odds it feeds well?

 

[wisconsinteacher]

Holy scat!!! My wife just said to find an action and start the build. It is on now. Tell me about ER Shaw barrels? I know they are not the best of the best but I am not looking for a rifle to shoot matches with. I just want a rifle that will shoot 1 moa out to 500 yards.

 

[Guy Miner]

Great!

I'd highly recommend Shilen barrels for a high quality barrel already setup for installation on a Savage:

http://www.shilen.com/savageBarrels.html

Guy

 

[jmad_81]

I don't know anything about ER shaw, but I have heard some good thing about them. Congrats on the start of a fun build. I would suspect that you'll end up with a better shooter than 1 MOA. the 280 AI is really a fun round. Depending on what your wanting to shoot out of it, stock up on 7828ssc or RL-22. Mine shoots the 140 AB, and 160 AB both under .5 MOA with rl-22. For the 120 BT I use IMR 4350, great practice/yote load.

 

[Guest]

Here's a good starting point that appears to include an upgraded synthetic stock. Might make the build cheaper on the front end (either by avoiding a stock purchase or by reaping more return on the stock sale):

http://www.marksgunsearch.com/details/12650/savage-110/

I've deal with these folks for over two decades and they're great people. Ask for Shelley when you call in, she's the owner's daughter. I'd make them an offer of $250 shipped and see what they say, but that's just me.

 

[bullet]

Great!

I'd highly recommend Shilen barrels for a high quality barrel already setup for installation on a Savage:

http://www.shilen.com/savageBarrels.html

Guy

Yes, Shilen makes it easy and the savage action a very good action.

 

[wisconsinteacher]

I just got off the phone with Jim at Northland. We talked for 40 minutes and he was great to talk to. After talking to him, I am thinking more 6mmBR than 280AI for now. I want a range rifle. I have 3 great deer hunting rilfes that I get to use during our 9 day season.

He provided me with a lot of info and prices for the products.

My next question, has anyone ever put a bull barrel in a standard barrel stock after opening the barrel chamber? I just don't care for the blocky stocks on bench rifles.

 

[bullet]

I just got off the phone with Jim at Northland. We talked for 40 minutes and he was great to talk to. After talking to him, I am thinking more 6mmBR than 280AI for now. I want a range rifle. I have 3 great deer hunting rilfes that I get to use during our 9 day season.

He provided me with a lot of info and prices for the products.

My next question, has anyone ever put a bull barrel in a standard barrel stock after opening the barrel chamber? I just don't care for the blocky stocks on bench rifles.

If this is going to be a range gun, you might ought to consider another stock besides the standard stock. Those bulkier stocks are for a reason when it comes to just a shooting rifle for the range.

 

[nvbroncrider]

I just got off the phone with Jim at Northland. We talked for 40 minutes and he was great to talk to. After talking to him, I am thinking more 6mmBR than 280AI for now. I want a range rifle. I have 3 great deer hunting rilfes that I get to use during our 9 day season.

He provided me with a lot of info and prices for the products.

My next question, has anyone ever put a bull barrel in a standard barrel stock after opening the barrel chamber? I just don't care for the blocky stocks on bench rifles.

If this is going to be a range gun, you might ought to consider another stock besides the standard stock. Those bulkier stocks are for a reason when it comes to just a shooting rifle for the range.

Yes very true. You can just open the channel up with sandpaper and a dowel. But your much better off going with a true varmint or tactical stock. It will make the rifle balance much better. And the extra weight will help the accuracy of the rifle.

 

[wisconsinteacher]

I will keep that in mind guys. I never thought of the ballance and weight. I guess I need to rethink the stock. That is later down the road as far as something to think of. Right now the first thing is to find an action or donor rifle.

 

[Guy Miner]

"I want a range rifle."

Remember those words - and what they mean. You already have some great hunting rifles, with overlapping capabilities. This one could well be quite different. Perhaps useful as a varmint rifle too, and the 6mmBR is certainly powerful enough for deer, but the rifle may be too bulky and cumbersome to be a general purpose hunting rifle.

The finest range rifle I ever owned was a wonderful custom built Model 70 match rifle. The stock was huge, really big in my hands, but wonderfully comfortable in shooting positions. It was made from a fairly light chunk of walnut by master rifle builder Jim Cloward. The 30" Palma taper Krieger barrel was very accurate, and again, way too long for general purpose hunting. I could have used it for varmint shooting, or even long-range hunting, but it was really intended for the rifle range and even international Palma competition. What a pleasure it was to use!

For various reasons, I ended up selling that wonderful rifle to a fellow who wanted to get his son into competitive shooting. I'm happy with that decision, though it was a terrific rifle. These days when I want to shoot a real accurate rifle I rely on my Rem 700, also a Cloward built rifle, but not nearly as "cool" as the match rifle. This one is more businesslike. I have two different stocks for it; the HS Precision "varmint" stock it was originally built with, and a heavier McMillan stock I had built for it several years ago. Yes, McMillan lays up each stock by hand, and a customer can order them with many different custom touches. I got a winner with this stock, though it makes the rifle a little heavy for general purpose hunting, it's better for range use. No, it's not small & easy to handle.

Remington in the McMillan stock:

Remington in the smaller-dimensioned HS Precision stock:

I think about the smallest dimensioned stock I've seen work really well with a heavy varmint/target barrel is the McMillan stock for the M40A1 USMC sniper rifle. It's also referred to as a "general purpose" hunting stock, though the dimensions are a little fuller than most standard hunting stocks. It is however, an excellent compromise.

Benchrest stocks are a whole different animal, using a large, flat base, sometimes even offset, to ensure the rifle tracks well, recoiling on the bags. Very specialized.

Don't know if this helps, but perhaps shares some of my experiences with trying to get a target rifle in a hunting rifle type stock. About the best I've been able to do is to use one of the various "varmint" type stocks.

I'm hoping though that JD338 shows a photo or two of his Remington in the gray-laminated stock... Pretty big contour barrel, in a standard stock. Might be just what you're seeking.

The "range rifle" though - can be a very different piece of gear than a general purpose hunting rifle.

Regards, Guy

 

[bullet]

Awesome pictures, great write up, thanks Guy :mrgreen:

 

[Guy Miner]

Thanks! :grin:

BTW - the BEST way I know to get a good range rifle for the least expense is to buy a good used one from a competitor who is either moving up to a better rifle, or getting out of the sport.

You'll get something that already has a proper range stock, a match grade barrel, a trued action, and either a tuned factory trigger or a good aftermarket trigger.

Used match rifles are usually pretty good deals. I've seen rifles that cost a couple of grand to build, be sold for under a thousand bucks.

FWIW, Guy

 

[wisconsinteacher]

Thank you very much for the help. I need to get away from the "hunting rifle" mind set and think range. I will be honest, the hardest part of this fun game is trying to get all the info in order so that the out come is a great experience and a rifle that hammers out small groups.