Shooting Tmes E-tip article

[Val]

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition ... index.html

I would like to have Nosler's comments on the Shooting Tmes article on the E-tips.

 

[Bob in TX]

The E-Tip, on the other hand, slugs up and really grabs the rifling like a conventional bullet. According to Nosler's Mike Lake, its unique construction also decreases pressure, which means you can use the same reloading data you would for, say, an AccuBond of the same weight.

..........say what?!? This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Bob

 

[Richracer1]

The E-Tip, on the other hand, slugs up and really grabs the rifling like a conventional bullet. According to Nosler's Mike Lake, its unique construction also decreases pressure, which means you can use the same reloading data you would for, say, an AccuBond of the same weight.

..........say what?!? This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

Bob

Well we seem to have miscommunication here as Nosler has stated several times on this forum to NOT exceed the middle load data from the #5 or 6 book.

Nosler(any) care to respond??????

 

[Nosler4]

Hmmmmm, I'll get back to you on this one...

 

[Nosler4]

I just talked to Mr. Mike Lake and he said it was 100% misquoted. I hope that clears things up a bit.

Start all E-Tip loads very light and work your way up because you WILL reach your maximum pressure sooner with E-Tips than with our other bullets. There's no way to get around more bearing surface. :grin:

 

[Richracer1]

I just talked to Mr. Mike Lake and he said it was 100% misquoted. I hope that clears things up a bit.

Start all E-Tip loads very light and work your way up because you WILL reach your maximum pressure sooner with E-Tips than with our other bullets. There's no way to get around more bearing surface. :grin:

Wow, the media misquoted someone/something..... nah, that never happens, it must be somebody else's fault. The media is never wrong. :shock:

Sorry guys, I know, a feable attempt at sarcasm.

 

[JD338]

Val,

Thank you for bringing this to everyones attention. Someone is libel to get hurt.
I sent the following to the Editor of Shooting Times-

Dear Editor,

The article on the Nosler E-Tip written by Mr.Greg Rodriguez needs to be brought to your attention. Greg Rodriguez has indicated that the E-Tip can be loaded the same as an AccuBond which is incorrect. These E-Tip bullets will generate much higher pressures and following Greg Rodriguez's advise will result in a very dangerous over pressure condition, one that could result in serious injury or death.
I trust that you will address this serious issue with Greg Rodriguez and your readers immediately.

Sincerely,


JD338

 

[Guest]

Hmm interesting article, misleading yes. But very informative too! Maybe someone could put in a good word to nosler to produce a 100 grain .243 version. :grin:

 

[Antelope_Sniper]

The other "interesting part of the article was their comments about the AccuBond. Insufficent weight retention and penetration???? Obviously these guy's haven't ever shot anyting with one.

 

[Guest]

Remember they get paid to wright. Even if they have no idea what they are talking about. I know for a fact that accubonds are excellent bullets, my neighbor shot clear through a quartering moose with one in a 270 wsm.

 

[JD338]

Remember they get paid to wright. Even if they have no idea what they are talking about.

Exactly. That is why it needs to be correct information given. I would hate to see someone get hurt.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

I just talked to Mr. Mike Lake and he said it was 100% misquoted. I hope that clears things up a bit.

Start all E-Tip loads very light and work your way up because you WILL reach your maximum pressure sooner with E-Tips than with our other bullets. There's no way to get around more bearing surface. :grin:

Wow, the media misquoted someone/something..... nah, that never happens, it must be somebody else's fault. The media is never wrong. :shock:

Sorry guys, I know, a feable attempt at sarcasm.

Ha Ha!

 

[JD338]

I received an email from Greg Rodriguez, Shooting Times Editor and wanted to post his reply for everyone-

Greg Rodriguez wrote:

Dear Jim,

The information I reported was provided to me by representatives of Nosler and Winchester. When I wrote the story, the bullets were not in production, and the theory was that the gilding metal construction was soft enough that it wouldn't cause pressure issues with recommended AccuBond loads. However, the longer bearing surface of the E-Tip increases pressure enough that Nosler recommends backing off 2 grains from the AccuBond loads in the Nosler manual. A maximum E-Tip load would use a medium-weight charge from the listed AccuBond loads.

Thanks for pointing out this very important discrepancy.

Best regards,

Greg Rodriguez
Shooting Editor, Shooting Times Magazine

I have invited Greg to join us here and hope he decides to. He has a lot of knowledge that he could share with us.

JD338

 

[FOTIS]

I hope so!!!!!

 

[YoteSmoker]

"When I wrote the story, the bullets were not in production"

I think this about sums up 99% of the breaking edge articles I read in a lot of the magazines. I now spend less time buying magazines filled with advertisements and articles written by guys with lined pockets, and more time on this site hearing from you all on your real life experiences. Thanks Nosler for this great forum and for allowing us to provide each other with real feedback from the woods and the range!

 

[Richracer1]

"When I wrote the story, the bullets were not in production"

I think this about sums up 99% of the breaking edge articles I read in a lot of the magazines. I now spend less time buying magazines filled with advertisements and articles written by guys with lined pockets, and more time on this site hearing from you all on your real life experiences. Thanks Nosler for this great forum and for allowing us to provide each other with real feedback from the woods and the range!

+1 :grin: