Sighting in. What range & why?

Guy Miner

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So, after laughing at our "Strelok App. for Android" discussion down in product review (no, not laughing at you wvchevy3, laughing mostly at us "old guys" trying hard to keep up) I thought it might be interesting to see who sights in their rifles/scopes/sights at what ranges, and how that works afield.

I like to keep it simple. That may reflect something of my simple mind, but it works for me. I do however engage in a couple of different methods:

A couple of my rifles have scopes with target turrets. Mostly I use the .308 Win with that setup. I keep that rifle sighted-in at 100 yards, and I know my "come ups" out to 600 yards. That's as far as I can regularly, easily practice, and hence my outside limit for field shots too.

I made a ballistic chart for it at one point. It's likely still around here somewhere, but I've gone through a couple of barrels on that rifle now, worn out enough brass to carpet the house in brass, and somewhere in there the "come ups" were pretty well memorized.

With that rifle, or the others with target turrets, I simply: Range It, Dial It, and Send It. One, two three. Bullet gone. Next? Very simple and pretty quick.

MOST of my rifles though have either a simple scope or a few have sights. Mostly I hunt with a simple fixed power, 6x scope, on my .25-06, and currently am using a 115 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip at 3120 fps. It's an accurate, reliable load.

I've quickly made kills with that rifle out to 400 yards, and a little farther, holding on hair. Love it. The flat trajectory and a good scope makes it so simple.

The rifle is sighted-in at 300 yards. That puts it a few inches high at shorter ranges. Zero at 300. About 10" low at 400 yards. Hold the horizontal crosshair right on the back of a mulie at that range and the bullet goes through the heart. Works for me. Worked on a coyote at 420 yards last fall. Worked on a pronghorn at 160 yards. It's incredibly simple and works great for me.

With a rifle that's not quite so flat shooting, like my .30-06 (and interestingly the .375 H&H shares a similar trajectory) I keep the rifle sighted in at 200 yards. Same principle applies as with the .25-06, but at only 2700ish fps, the bullet describes a more looping arc.

Zero at 200 yards. Down about 8"-10" at 300 yards and about two feet at 400 yards. It's not tough.

Made the bear at 306 yards a pretty easy shot with the .375 Number One. :grin:

I don't shoot standard "open" sights all that well, so if my rifle has them, like my .30-30 Glenfield, or the Ruger sights on the .375, they're sighted in no farther than 100 yards. Fifty makes sense too. At farther ranges, I simply pass on taking the shot.

That's not the case with good "peep" sights... I'll adjust as necessary and shoot them pretty well, though my eyes are not young anymore.

How 'bout you? What range and why?

Guy
 
everything I own is sighted in at 200 yards. Now, pending on the setup I use your 25-06 method or your 308 dial method.
Levers are sighted in at 150 yards.
 
I practice the Kiss method and use a 200yd zero. I find a refrigerator box and and set it out at what I think will be the max range I'll shoot and measure the accual bullet drop of my loads so I know what my hold will be past 200yds. I shoot all my rifles this way and use them for varmits as well as big game, that way I get use to them in field situations. When I get out to shoot my 300Wby which is still new to me I'll do this also. 300wby for ground hogs got to love it.
wvchevy3 I wasn't making fun of you or the new phone apps. I have 3 GPS, one for my big truck, one built into my wifes car which we haven't figured out how to use yet and a magellen which has taken me places I'd rather not have gone. :roll: And I have a smart phone that I have to go to a verizon kiosk to get a refresher course on how to use.
 
FOTIS":3fd8huey said:
everything I own is sighted in at 200 yards.
Levers are sighted in at 150 yards.

+1 Fotis,

Works for me also for over 60 years :lol:
 
My deer rifles, 300 savage and 06 are sighted in with a 200 yard zero. All the black tailed deer I've shot were all under 150 yards, most are under 100 yards.

340 weatherby uses a Zeiss rapid Z 800 so it to is sighted in at 200 per the instructions at the calculated scope power setting.

300 rum is sighted in at 300 yards, hold top of back on an elk out to 500. I like this method because it's simple and it works very well.
 
Virtually all my rifles are sighted in at 200 yards. Those few scopes that have turrets or ballistic aiming devices are verified at appropriate ranges, though I seldom if ever have found it necessary to go much beyond 250 yards for shooting game. Most of my lever guns are sighted in at 150 yards, much as Fotis has stated, save for the 375 Win, which is sighted at 100 yards.
 
It's funny about the lever guns. I know I could stretch the range of my .30-30, but I'm comfortable with the 2.5x zeroed at 100 yards. I don't use it for longish range shooting anyway, value it mostly for short - mid range shooting. Say 25 - 150 yards.

Guy
 
Up until now, I've always sighted my rifles at 300 yds and like Guy "hold for hair" to whatever yardage was possible with the given cartridge. I now have a couple of Leupold scopes with the custom turrets and I'm not sure how I'm gonna use them.
 
Guy,

My other lever guns are two chambered in .307 Win and two chambered in .356 Win. I am comfortable shooting either to 250 yards, but I sight them in at 150 yards and have never shot anything beyond 140 yards with any of thee rifles.
 
I usually end up somewhere between 200 and 275 yards. I try to get as much reach as possible while keeping the bullet within 3" of the line of sight. Apps like Strelok and programs like the one that comes with Bryan Litz's book are very helpful when deciding what the zero range should be. This may be over thinking things a little, but I can't help myself. That's the engineer in me.

JohnB
 
With my Redfield on my 7Mag I sight it in at 200 yards. But it has the ballistic reticle with 300, 400, and 500 yard marks on it. I have shot it out to 400 yards and it works very well. On my 300 WM I'm not sure what I'm going to do, probably 200 yards I'm guessing. I have not really made up my mind on what bullet I'm going to use.

Corey
 
On a side note my first bolt action was a .270 and I had sighted it in 3.5 inches high at 100 yards and not shot it past that. Shot a deer that year with the 140 grain ballistic tip and lost most of the backstrap. I did have a dead deer, but man it was a monster hole it left out the back side.

Corey
 
I go 100 yards and know my dope. The reason I do this is that way at 100 yards I'm dead on and everything closer and farther I just have to hold over. It makes corrections very easy for me I've taken coyotes with my 280AI out to 350 yards easily doing this so I don't think I should have any issues on deer out to 400 or elk out to 500. Not even a thought process to me.
 
I also use the 200yd zero for my rifles, even on the 270WSM, with that being said, I have the boone & crockett reticle on the 270WSM and good out to 600yds, although I've never shot beyond 300yds where I hunt, atleast not yet :wink:
 
For whitetails in PA woods, I've always sighted my rifles in to be 1" high at 100yds. I learned that as a kid from my father. Anything with a red dot or open sights, gets sighted in at 50yds cause my eyes suck! 22's are at 50 yds, and the 17HMR at 100yds. My 22-250 is sighted in at 300yds.
Steve
 
Pretty much all of my hunting rifles are sighted in at 3" high at 100 yards. That's the 35 Whelen to the 264 Win Mag. I use my ballistic ap in order to verify the zero range but with the Whelen and a 250 it's about 230 and the 264 is about 300 yards. With the 264, 270 and 7mms it allows no brain work out to 400. With the slower rifles, it's about 350. After that, I dial or use the ballistic reticle. Since most all of my shooting has been within 400, it works for me and maximizes the trajectory for deer/elk sized game and since I've been using it so long, I just naturally hold low unless it feels long. I have been doing this since I learned to shoot and started reading Bob Hagels books back as a younger lad.
 
I have everything zeroed at 200 yds except the 45-70 which is 100 yd zero.

JD338
 
All of my rifles other than my 336 in 35Rem are sighted in for 200 yards. I use the 35Rem for a back-up deer rifle in Maine and have it dead on for 100 yards. Out of all the deer I have taken in Maine I don't remember any shots over 60-70 yards.
 
...back in the "bad old days" before affordable LRF's, I used to use "Maximum Point Blank Range. Now I have a 200yd. range out the backdoor & experience has shown me I've shot a lot more game @ 50-300yds. than I have @ 300-600yds., so I'm cautious about pushing my "high point" above 3", seems most of my shots are right @ 175yds., or the high point of my trajectory. Most of my rifles are ballistically similar enough that a 200yd. "zero" puts them @ 6", 18", 39" drops @ 300/400/500yds. Lots easier to figger the drops in hundred yard intervals, weighting the last fifty, than to adjust from 245 to 310, etc.
 
I use the 2 inch cone for the .257 R-110 gr, .270 W-130 gr, 7mm RM-160 gr, .30-06-165 gr. Then I use the 3 inch cone for my .338 Federal-210 gr and 9.3x74R-250 gr. These all get me to about 300 yards without much brain power. For further targets then 300 some yards the .257, .270, 7mm mag and .30-06 all have drops within an inch or so to 400 yards and I have placed a limit in most shots to 400 yrds, except for the 7mm Rem Mag which I have memorized to 500 yrds.
 
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