t/c contender 14" 30-30
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Thebear_78
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- Sep 30, 2004
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My dad had a 10" contender and found the 125gr ballistic tip pretty effective on whitetails
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Best advice I can offer is to go to the Hodgdon website, data.hodgdon.com, and check out their pistol load section for 30-30 data for 130gr bullets. It'll at least give you a starting place for both powders.
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For the 150s, just use the standing start charges for the 150gr flat-nosed stuff. The BT will have less bearing surface, so it'll produce lower pressures, but you can work up carefully and be alright.
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 34.977 grain H2O = 2.271 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 3031
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 88 26.40 1790 889 21865 6779 75.2 1.140
-18.0 90 27.06 1837 937 23263 7073 77.0 1.110
-16.0 92 27.72 1886 987 24757 7367 78.7 1.081
-14.0 94 28.38 1936 1040 26356 7660 80.4 1.053
-12.0 96 29.04 1986 1094 28067 7950 82.1 1.025
-10.0 99 29.70 2036 1151 29900 8236 83.7 0.998
-08.0 101 30.36 2088 1210 31865 8516 85.2 0.971
-06.0 103 31.02 2139 1270 33974 8790 86.7 0.945
-04.0 105 31.68 2192 1333 36239 9057 88.2 0.919
-02.0 107 32.34 2245 1398 38656 9314 89.6 0.892
+00.0 109 33.00 2298 1466 41296 9561 90.9 0.865 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 33.66 2351 1535 44121 9796 92.1 0.838 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 34.32 2405 1606 47170 10019 93.3 0.812 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 34.98 2460 1679 50462 10227 94.4 0.788 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 35.64 2514 1754 54031 10420 95.4 0.764 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 36.30 2569 1832 57899 10597 96.3 0.740 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 33.00 2461 1681 50203 9940 97.6 0.791 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 33.00 2100 1224 33630 8612 80.0 0.950
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 30.815 grain H2O = 2.001 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 3031
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 87 23.20 1634 889 22088 6279 78.5 1.237
-18.0 90 23.78 1677 936 23485 6538 80.2 1.205
-16.0 92 24.36 1720 986 24977 6795 81.8 1.173
-14.0 94 24.94 1765 1037 26572 7050 83.4 1.141
-12.0 96 25.52 1810 1091 28273 7301 84.9 1.111
-10.0 98 26.10 1855 1146 30100 7547 86.4 1.081
-08.0 100 26.68 1900 1203 32053 7788 87.8 1.052
-06.0 103 27.26 1946 1262 34147 8021 89.1 1.023
-04.0 105 27.84 1993 1323 36391 8247 90.4 0.995
-02.0 107 28.42 2039 1385 38805 8464 91.7 0.967
+00.0 109 29.00 2086 1450 41399 8671 92.8 0.937 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 29.58 2133 1516 44191 8866 93.9 0.910 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 30.16 2181 1584 47200 9050 94.9 0.882 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 30.74 2228 1654 50448 9221 95.8 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 31.32 2276 1725 53961 9377 96.7 0.830 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 31.90 2324 1799 57766 9518 97.4 0.806 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 29.00 2226 1650 50340 8877 98.6 0.860 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 29.00 1913 1219 33706 7928 82.6 1.031
I ran these for a 14" barrel. Let us know if this helps out.
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 34.977 grain H2O = 2.271 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 3031
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 88 26.40 1790 889 21865 6779 75.2 1.140
-18.0 90 27.06 1837 937 23263 7073 77.0 1.110
-16.0 92 27.72 1886 987 24757 7367 78.7 1.081
-14.0 94 28.38 1936 1040 26356 7660 80.4 1.053
-12.0 96 29.04 1986 1094 28067 7950 82.1 1.025
-10.0 99 29.70 2036 1151 29900 8236 83.7 0.998
-08.0 101 30.36 2088 1210 31865 8516 85.2 0.971
-06.0 103 31.02 2139 1270 33974 8790 86.7 0.945
-04.0 105 31.68 2192 1333 36239 9057 88.2 0.919
-02.0 107 32.34 2245 1398 38656 9314 89.6 0.892
+00.0 109 33.00 2298 1466 41296 9561 90.9 0.865 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 112 33.66 2351 1535 44121 9796 92.1 0.838 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 34.32 2405 1606 47170 10019 93.3 0.812 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 34.98 2460 1679 50462 10227 94.4 0.788 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 35.64 2514 1754 54031 10420 95.4 0.764 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 36.30 2569 1832 57899 10597 96.3 0.740 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 33.00 2461 1681 50203 9940 97.6 0.791 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 33.00 2100 1224 33630 8612 80.0 0.950
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (CIP)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 30.815 grain H2O = 2.001 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 3031
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 87 23.20 1634 889 22088 6279 78.5 1.237
-18.0 90 23.78 1677 936 23485 6538 80.2 1.205
-16.0 92 24.36 1720 986 24977 6795 81.8 1.173
-14.0 94 24.94 1765 1037 26572 7050 83.4 1.141
-12.0 96 25.52 1810 1091 28273 7301 84.9 1.111
-10.0 98 26.10 1855 1146 30100 7547 86.4 1.081
-08.0 100 26.68 1900 1203 32053 7788 87.8 1.052
-06.0 103 27.26 1946 1262 34147 8021 89.1 1.023
-04.0 105 27.84 1993 1323 36391 8247 90.4 0.995
-02.0 107 28.42 2039 1385 38805 8464 91.7 0.967
+00.0 109 29.00 2086 1450 41399 8671 92.8 0.937 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 111 29.58 2133 1516 44191 8866 93.9 0.910 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 114 30.16 2181 1584 47200 9050 94.9 0.882 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 116 30.74 2228 1654 50448 9221 95.8 0.856 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 118 31.32 2276 1725 53961 9377 96.7 0.830 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 120 31.90 2324 1799 57766 9518 97.4 0.806 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 109 29.00 2226 1650 50340 8877 98.6 0.860 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 109 29.00 1913 1219 33706 7928 82.6 1.031
I ran these for a 14" barrel. Let us know if this helps out.
You have the proper barrel length for a 30-30 Win pistol. The first Contender I ever had was a 10" barrel 30-30 Win. It shot great but much slower than a 14" barrel. As for loads forget IMR 4064 powder it is way too slow burning for the 14" barrel.
As for IMR 3031 It is usable but will be around 200 fps slower with 125 gr bullets and around 100 fps slower with 150s than IMR 4198. IMR 4198 is my go to powder for the 30-30 and 30-30AI in a pistol. Back in the late 1970 I did a lot of reading of stuff that Bob Milek and Steve Herrett wrote about loading for the Contenders and they chose IMR 4198 as their go to powder for the 30-30 Win. I have found that these loads that come right out of the 4th Ed Sierra Pistol loading manual as far as the powder charge goes are right on the money.
These are MAX loads so work up to them in your pistol.
125 gr bullets, 30.0 grs IMR 4198
150 gr bullets, 28.1 grs IMR 4198
The 125 Nosler ballistic tip is really a GREAT deer bullet and you can get it going 2300 fps with the above load. I use this bullet in my 30-30AI with 33 grs IMR 4198 and it averages 2670 fps and really hammers deer.
Good luck and good shooting.
As for IMR 3031 It is usable but will be around 200 fps slower with 125 gr bullets and around 100 fps slower with 150s than IMR 4198. IMR 4198 is my go to powder for the 30-30 and 30-30AI in a pistol. Back in the late 1970 I did a lot of reading of stuff that Bob Milek and Steve Herrett wrote about loading for the Contenders and they chose IMR 4198 as their go to powder for the 30-30 Win. I have found that these loads that come right out of the 4th Ed Sierra Pistol loading manual as far as the powder charge goes are right on the money.
These are MAX loads so work up to them in your pistol.
125 gr bullets, 30.0 grs IMR 4198
150 gr bullets, 28.1 grs IMR 4198
The 125 Nosler ballistic tip is really a GREAT deer bullet and you can get it going 2300 fps with the above load. I use this bullet in my 30-30AI with 33 grs IMR 4198 and it averages 2670 fps and really hammers deer.
Good luck and good shooting.
1Shot has posted up some awesome kills with his 30-30.. Here is QL to go along with it..
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 33.984 grain H2O = 2.207 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4198
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 77 21.60 1812 911 24155 6190 85.7 1.083
-18.0 79 22.14 1853 953 25533 6401 86.9 1.060
-16.0 81 22.68 1894 996 26984 6610 88.1 1.036
-14.0 83 23.22 1935 1039 28511 6815 89.2 1.013
-12.0 85 23.76 1976 1084 30120 7017 90.3 0.991
-10.0 86 24.30 2018 1130 31815 7214 91.4 0.969
-08.0 88 24.84 2059 1177 33601 7406 92.3 0.948
-06.0 90 25.38 2100 1225 35481 7593 93.3 0.928
-04.0 92 25.92 2142 1273 37463 7774 94.1 0.907 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 26.46 2183 1323 39553 7949 95.0 0.884 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 27.00 2224 1373 41756 8116 95.7 0.862 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 98 27.54 2265 1425 44081 8276 96.4 0.841 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 28.08 2307 1477 46534 8428 97.1 0.821 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 102 28.62 2347 1529 49124 8572 97.6 0.801 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 104 29.16 2388 1583 51860 8707 98.2 0.782 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 106 29.70 2429 1637 54753 8832 98.6 0.763 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 27.00 2333 1510 48923 8184 99.4 0.804 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 27.00 2088 1210 35098 7680 88.5 0.931
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 29.826 grain H2O = 1.937 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4198
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 78 19.20 1661 919 25244 5698 88.9 1.165
-18.0 80 19.68 1698 961 26689 5881 90.0 1.139
-16.0 82 20.16 1736 1003 28211 6060 91.1 1.113
-14.0 84 20.64 1773 1047 29813 6236 92.1 1.088
-12.0 86 21.12 1810 1091 31500 6408 93.0 1.064
-10.0 88 21.60 1847 1137 33276 6574 93.9 1.040
-08.0 90 22.08 1884 1183 35150 6736 94.7 1.017
-06.0 91 22.56 1922 1230 37123 6891 95.5 0.994 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 93 23.04 1958 1278 39203 7040 96.2 0.971 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 95 23.52 1995 1326 41396 7183 96.9 0.946 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 97 24.00 2032 1375 43708 7319 97.5 0.923 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 99 24.48 2069 1425 46150 7447 98.0 0.901 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 101 24.96 2105 1476 48727 7568 98.5 0.879 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 103 25.44 2141 1527 51449 7680 98.9 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 105 25.92 2178 1579 54325 7784 99.2 0.838 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 107 26.40 2213 1632 57368 7878 99.5 0.818 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 24.00 2122 1500 51232 7244 99.9 0.863 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 24.00 1914 1221 36712 7046 91.3 0.998 ! Near Maximum !
You may be able to run a little warmer in your Contender, vs a lever gun, so work up carefully..
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 125, Nosler BalTip 30125
Useable Case Capaci: 33.984 grain H2O = 2.207 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4198
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 77 21.60 1812 911 24155 6190 85.7 1.083
-18.0 79 22.14 1853 953 25533 6401 86.9 1.060
-16.0 81 22.68 1894 996 26984 6610 88.1 1.036
-14.0 83 23.22 1935 1039 28511 6815 89.2 1.013
-12.0 85 23.76 1976 1084 30120 7017 90.3 0.991
-10.0 86 24.30 2018 1130 31815 7214 91.4 0.969
-08.0 88 24.84 2059 1177 33601 7406 92.3 0.948
-06.0 90 25.38 2100 1225 35481 7593 93.3 0.928
-04.0 92 25.92 2142 1273 37463 7774 94.1 0.907 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 94 26.46 2183 1323 39553 7949 95.0 0.884 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 96 27.00 2224 1373 41756 8116 95.7 0.862 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 98 27.54 2265 1425 44081 8276 96.4 0.841 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 100 28.08 2307 1477 46534 8428 97.1 0.821 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 102 28.62 2347 1529 49124 8572 97.6 0.801 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 104 29.16 2388 1583 51860 8707 98.2 0.782 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 106 29.70 2429 1637 54753 8832 98.6 0.763 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 96 27.00 2333 1510 48923 8184 99.4 0.804 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 96 27.00 2088 1210 35098 7680 88.5 0.931
Cartridge : .30-30 Win. (SAAMI)
Bullet : .308, 150, Nosler BalTip 30150
Useable Case Capaci: 29.826 grain H2O = 1.937 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm
Barrel Length : 14.0 inch = 355.6 mm
Powder : IMR 4198
Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !
Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-20.0 78 19.20 1661 919 25244 5698 88.9 1.165
-18.0 80 19.68 1698 961 26689 5881 90.0 1.139
-16.0 82 20.16 1736 1003 28211 6060 91.1 1.113
-14.0 84 20.64 1773 1047 29813 6236 92.1 1.088
-12.0 86 21.12 1810 1091 31500 6408 93.0 1.064
-10.0 88 21.60 1847 1137 33276 6574 93.9 1.040
-08.0 90 22.08 1884 1183 35150 6736 94.7 1.017
-06.0 91 22.56 1922 1230 37123 6891 95.5 0.994 ! Near Maximum !
-04.0 93 23.04 1958 1278 39203 7040 96.2 0.971 ! Near Maximum !
-02.0 95 23.52 1995 1326 41396 7183 96.9 0.946 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 97 24.00 2032 1375 43708 7319 97.5 0.923 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 99 24.48 2069 1425 46150 7447 98.0 0.901 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 101 24.96 2105 1476 48727 7568 98.5 0.879 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 103 25.44 2141 1527 51449 7680 98.9 0.858 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 105 25.92 2178 1579 54325 7784 99.2 0.838 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 107 26.40 2213 1632 57368 7878 99.5 0.818 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 97 24.00 2122 1500 51232 7244 99.9 0.863 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 97 24.00 1914 1221 36712 7046 91.3 0.998 ! Near Maximum !
You may be able to run a little warmer in your Contender, vs a lever gun, so work up carefully..
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RogueRiver
Handloader
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my contender carbine 21" 30-30 loves the 125 bt. very accurate I use 3031 or blc2
BeeTee
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I have a T/C Arms brochure from the late 1970s that I acquired with the T/C stuff I owned at the time, including a Super 14 .30 Herrett.
The booklet included loads for all of the cartridges offered by T/C at the time, including the 30-30.
Speer 110grRN H4227 24.5gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2090fps with 10" barrel
Sierra 125gr Spitzer H4198 29.0gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2050fps
Sierra 125gr Spitzer Norma N200 33.0gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2227fps
Sierra 150gr Spitzer Norma N200 31.0gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2020fps
There are other Dupont powder loads shown as well if anyone wants them, that lists pressures and velocities for both 10" and 14" barrels. There's about a 150fps difference between the 10" and 14" barrels.
SJB358 may be right about pressures. The brochure lists pressures for the .30 Herrett (made from shortened 30-30 cases) as being in the 45,000 CUP range while the 30-30 loads see a max of 37,000CUP. I suppose it's in consideration of the lever carbines out there. BT
The booklet included loads for all of the cartridges offered by T/C at the time, including the 30-30.
Speer 110grRN H4227 24.5gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2090fps with 10" barrel
Sierra 125gr Spitzer H4198 29.0gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2050fps
Sierra 125gr Spitzer Norma N200 33.0gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2227fps
Sierra 150gr Spitzer Norma N200 31.0gr Rem 9-1/2 = 2020fps
There are other Dupont powder loads shown as well if anyone wants them, that lists pressures and velocities for both 10" and 14" barrels. There's about a 150fps difference between the 10" and 14" barrels.
SJB358 may be right about pressures. The brochure lists pressures for the .30 Herrett (made from shortened 30-30 cases) as being in the 45,000 CUP range while the 30-30 loads see a max of 37,000CUP. I suppose it's in consideration of the lever carbines out there. BT
