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Too bad it is an XTR
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DrMike
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Nevertheless, all the XTRs I owned were shooters.
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Mine too Doc....but it ain't the real deal....
DrMike
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FOTIS":338oatds said:
That is true, and it is the reason I own no XTRs at this present time. :grin:
What is wrong with the XTR? My first rifle, received for my twelfth Christmas 28 years ago, was a Win Model 70 XTR in 30-06. I still have that rifle and always will :wink: . Yet, my rifle looks nothing like that one. My rifle has a hinged floor plate and a slanted black fore end cap nor did my rifle come with a recoil pad. As a youngster, I remember how that rifle kicked the crap out of me. I shot it iron sights for about 5 years. I had the worst flinch. My father would tell me to man up or maybe I should not be out hunting with the big boys :? . Luckily I stuck with it. I have never found a rifle that kicked like that one did. My children will start off with a 240 mini-Roy.
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runtohunt":3dlh0dk3 said:
Basically it is a pushfeed which is a sacrilege for Winnie fans.
This one being a 264 with a 24" tube is double sacrilege :mrgreen:
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RTH,
The push-feed Winchesters actually tended to be more accurate than the pre-64 Winchesters. Unfortunately, the dedicated fans were turned off, primarily by gun writers that dissed the new rifle. When Winchester began again to offer CRF rifles, marketed as Classic, the death knell of the XTR was sounded. Winchester persisted in offering a few, selected models as push-feed, but ultimately, they have died out. As I stated, all I owned shot quite well. Today, I would not be offended to have an XTR offered to me and I might even purchase one if it were the proper chambering, though I would probably wear a paper bag over my head while shooting at the bench rather than admit what it was. :grin: Actually, I can think of some that I could wish were back in my possession.
The push-feed Winchesters actually tended to be more accurate than the pre-64 Winchesters. Unfortunately, the dedicated fans were turned off, primarily by gun writers that dissed the new rifle. When Winchester began again to offer CRF rifles, marketed as Classic, the death knell of the XTR was sounded. Winchester persisted in offering a few, selected models as push-feed, but ultimately, they have died out. As I stated, all I owned shot quite well. Today, I would not be offended to have an XTR offered to me and I might even purchase one if it were the proper chambering, though I would probably wear a paper bag over my head while shooting at the bench rather than admit what it was. :grin: Actually, I can think of some that I could wish were back in my possession.
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I did own with a 6.5x55 that was varmint rifle accurate.
While it may not have been made in the true image of the rifleman's rifle, I will never part with mine. My XTR 30-06 was my first rifle, but sentimentality is not the only reason it will stay with me. I've never shouldered another rifle that feels quite so right. Here she is (on top):
If, God forbid, I have to part ways with one of those rifles, it will be the Super Grade. The XTR will be staying here with me.
If, God forbid, I have to part ways with one of those rifles, it will be the Super Grade. The XTR will be staying here with me.
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Yeah, the XTRs work. It was just a shame that they got bad press.
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I wouldn't pay that much for a "70A" but I owned several XTR's with floorplates in the late 1960's and all of them shot well and were quite accurate. Once they went away from the pressed checkering and gloss finish, these rifles were shooters.
I've had a few Pre-64 M70s ans they're all very long gone. Just my personal opinion but I think they're highly over rated. :shock: I still have my several M70 XTR's and they're all a lot more accurate that the vaunted Pre-64's I owned. One, XTR, a .270 Win. I picked up at a gun show on a whim shot five .50" to .75" groups with Winchester 150 gr. Power Point ammo and my handloads with the 150 gr. Sierra Game Kimg shoot equally tight groups. My M70 XTR Featherweight is a .75" gun on average. An old 1968 era .243 ain't the prettiest rifle around but it to will shoot groups in the .50 to .75" range.
If I feel the need for a rifle with controlled round feeding, I choose a Mauser over the Pre-64 Winchester every time.
I do have one of the Winchester Stainless Classics in .338 Win. mag. and it is flat out garbage. For one thing it has a cheap Tupperware stock and on a good day the gun will do 4" groups. My 1968 era M70 in .338 Win. mag. wiill do anywhere from 1.0" to 1.25" depending on the bullets I'm shooting. I've thought about putting that Stainless Classc into a McMillan stock but somehow I have the feeling I'd be throwing good money after bad.
You don't have to flame me. I did say it was my personal opinion based on probably 30 years with the various rifles mentioned. Anyway, the ods of me ever hunting something seriously bad enough to hurt me are so high against it that shoot a push feeder doen't bother me at all.
Paul B.
If I feel the need for a rifle with controlled round feeding, I choose a Mauser over the Pre-64 Winchester every time.
I do have one of the Winchester Stainless Classics in .338 Win. mag. and it is flat out garbage. For one thing it has a cheap Tupperware stock and on a good day the gun will do 4" groups. My 1968 era M70 in .338 Win. mag. wiill do anywhere from 1.0" to 1.25" depending on the bullets I'm shooting. I've thought about putting that Stainless Classc into a McMillan stock but somehow I have the feeling I'd be throwing good money after bad.
You don't have to flame me. I did say it was my personal opinion based on probably 30 years with the various rifles mentioned. Anyway, the ods of me ever hunting something seriously bad enough to hurt me are so high against it that shoot a push feeder doen't bother me at all.
Paul B.
