Upstate NY hunting

SJB358

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Dec 24, 2006
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Well, I got back Sunday night from about a week and change of deer hunting with my family up in NY. Had a good time, hunted with my father, sisters, son, wife, cousins and old friends. We came up pretty dry. It was a rough week. We covered alot of ground. Deer numbers don't seem to be as good as they were, and the coyotes have really taken hold up there too. My old man has taken about 13 coyotes this year in traps. Anyhow, I hunted with my 14 year old cousin. First year hunter. He sat with me the entire windy, cold and nasty opening morning. He used my sons' M700 243 with the 95gr BT's at around 2900.

He shot his deer on the run in the rear end. Not a great shot, but I believe he caught a little of the fever. He did keep his head enough to get the gun up, take the safety off and put a bullet in the deers rear. Where he shot the deer, there was meat chunks and blood everywhere. Knowing it wasn't a great shot, we gave the deer about 1.5 hours to die. Well, once we started tracking, we bumped the deer again before dark.

We left the deer until the following morning and finished trailing her. She only went about 65 yards further, leaving tons of blood, but it was a good blood trail. We found her, but not before the coyotes ate about half of her. We were able to pull a quarter off of her, and a backstrap, but the yotes ate the entire other side. I have no idea about the bullet, but it seemed to go in the rear ham and into the guts. It did an admirable job for such a little bullet. We talked about shot placement and what happens when bullets land off the mark, but being a young hunter, we did the best we could and recovered the deer.

Anyhow, his father bought him a M10 Savage 243, that night. I zeroed it and now, we have another hunter amongst the ranks. He will do well and hopefully will continue to take as many coyotes as he find!

Here are some pictures.
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Here is an old shed my cousin and I found (laid the rear tine on my 18.5" 45-70 barrel and the rear tine was easily 13" if not longer). Trophy buck for NY, unfortunately I never found any of his kin. I passed one little spike with the 45-70, but nothing else presented itself.
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My son had a close encounter with a doe that busted him at 15 yards, but it was a great encounter for him. Anyhow, it was fun to hunt with them all, but too bad there weren't more deer. There was a few over 400lb bears and one that dressed out at 540lbs! Also, a family friend shot a nice 11pt. That was the only big buck that I even saw and he was already dead. I will get some more pictures once the parents send them along. Scotty
 
Good that you got to spend time with family and friends.You also got to get in the woods at the same time.

In turn another young hunter was introduced into the "brotherhood of burnt powder" and I'm sure it's a day he'll never forget.
He got the hardest one out of the way,the first one.From here on out it'll be easier for him.He also ended up with a rifle that is his very own.

Shooting a rifle at moving targets is a tough skill to learn.Everyone of us has made a less than perfect shot on game,I know I have.I shot a running deer's lower rear leg off last year.Four hours and a mile and a half later I finally killed him.
You showed the young man how to track the deer and finish the job,unfortunately the yotes got there first.

Good job.
There is always next year.Now you only have to wait 11 months and three weeks for that day to arrive. :mrgreen:
 
I peddled a 10 speed bike through up state NY around 1973. Beautiful country. Sounds like you had a great time with family.....the best part of hunting, except for maybe pulling the trigger.

Long
 
Though it may not have been a perfect shot, your cousin learned a valuable lesson in tracking his deer until he found it. Good job. It is a nice looking animal, even though the coyotes got a good feed from it.
 
Good job man! Last time I hunted upstate NY I was in Delaware county in 1983. Yikes! :shock:
 
Scotty,

Good read and pictures! Congratulations to your cousin on his first deer.

JD338
 
Scotty -
Sounds like you had a great time out and about with your Family.

Congrats and Kudos to you for haning with a new and up comming hunter. As Mike stated - valuable
lesson & well worth having your experience there to persist on.
 
Congratulations. Isn't it great getting them game. Even better than getting something ourselves. Nice work on staying with it for the recovery as well. Good job, don't quite, never quite. :)
 
Great Job Scotty,
Sounds like you all had a lot of fun. That's what family is all about. Congratulations!

Bruce
 
Scotty -
You taught the young man some valuable lessons that he can apply next time out. Good hunters don't happen by accident, it is a learned skill. Great job helping pass that on! Sounds like you need to spend some time in that area with a yote call and thin out the population :p
 
It was a great time out there. Even though the deer seemed scarce, it was good to hunt with the younger generation. I was more excited he got his own rifle and now can help thin the population on his own. My cousin really bit into hunting and hopefully he gets out in the winter months (which there are alot of Upstate) and tracks them yotes down. He is also getting 12 traps for Christmas, so he can double tap them that way. Now, if I can just get him to start reloading, he will be a fully complete hunter! Scotty

Here are some pictures of the terrain and family
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Scotty,

If you can get him into calling coyotes, it will make him a better deer hunter fast! Calling coyotes is tough, you need the right set up, play the wind, concealment, and getting on a coyote quickly before he figures out something just isn't right will hone the young lads skills.
Start him out with a mouth call and he will be hooked. 8)

JD338
 
My old man gave him a rabbit squealer to mess with. I am thinking he will get more into hunting the coyotes once the deer season fades away. Hopefully he can get himself a buck before the year is out. Scotty
 
Scotty
Nice pictures, great story, nice to be with the family drop me a PM when yoiu get a min!!
 
Here are some trapping pictures. These were some of my old mans scores from this year so far. He will continue to trap right into January or so I believe. Scotty
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I always thought upstate NY was beautiful. I considered going to Cornell for graduate work. Those pictures sure make give a good idea of the terrain. Some fine looking young hunters there.
 
Thanks Mike. It is really nice up there. I like the mix of terrain and the hunting is pretty good most of the time. I think I had a crummy week, but this week may be alot better, who knows. I hear from family and friends daily during the hunting season. Scotty
 
The number of critters your family trapped would indicate a good population of animals that are commonly hunted. I know there used to be a very healthy whitetail population. I should imagine that the population has continued strong as it has increased substantially in almost every other jurisdiction.
 
DrMike":kakr9u5s said:
I always thought upstate NY was beautiful.

I agree. When I was in my early teens my dad took us to Schenectady NY for some of our summers.
 
My family all hails from Schoharie, Schenectady and Albany County for the most part. Most of them are in Schoharie. Small world! Scotty
 
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